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Lost in the world and all of the lights are different sides of the same coin. The only thing is i think lights' first kanye verse is weak. Mj is a huge part of kanyes history but the dead line feels dated to me. I would give both songs 8 out of 10 on the kanye song scale.
Lost in the world and all of the lights are different sides of the same coin. The only thing is i think lights' first kanye verse is weak. Mj is a huge part of kanyes history but the dead line feels dated to me. I would give both songs 8 out of 10 on the kanye song scale.
You have to remember this is Manchester, TN. BFE, middle of nowhere, farm. This isn't Coachella where it's common for someone to be in LA and can make a quick stop by for a surprise appearance. JayZ would likely have to be traveling with Kanye for this to even remotely possibly happen.
THE DISRESPECT FOR "ALL OF THE LIGHTS" IN THIS THREAD!!! For me "All of the lights" is probably Kanye's 2nd best song ever, at least 3rd with "Runaway" being the only other one that I could argue should be there.
1. Through the Wire 2. All of the Lights 3. Runaway
I love all Kanyes songs but I'll never forget where I was and what I was doing the first time I heard those three songs. "All of the lights interlude" leading into "All of the lights" gave me chills the first time I heard it and still does every single time. I remember my freshman year of high school I was in computer class listening to music on yahoo musics website and "Through the wire" was recommended to me. So I checked it out and it blew me away. Everything about it. That night I made my mom take me to the mall, and I bought The College Dropout with the money I'd been planning on using to take this girl to the movies with. I ditched her and didn't go to the movies and she hated me after that. She grew up to be extremely hot. Still the best decision I ever made.
Okay, I need you guys to convert me. I've been a big Kanye fan since he first came out, and College Dropout is still my favorite album of all time. But whenever I see people talk about his music, MBDTF is quite often regarded as his best album, and I just don't get it. It seems overly poppy to me in comparison to his other albums (not counting 808s - that album I just sweep under my mental rug when it comes to Kanye), the chorus on Monster annoys me, All of the Lights is decent but Fergie's part just grates on me...overall the album isn't bad (Kanye is still Kanye, after all), but I'd rank all his other albums (minus 808s) above it.
I want to like this album, and I want to appreciate it the way so many people do. Why is it hailed so often as his greatest work? What do you get from it?
Okay, I need you guys to convert me. I've been a big Kanye fan since he first came out, and College Dropout is still my favorite album of all time. But whenever I see people talk about his music, MBDTF is quite often regarded as his best album, and I just don't get it. It seems overly poppy to me in comparison to his other albums (not counting 808s - that album I just sweep under my mental rug when it comes to Kanye), the chorus on Monster annoys me, All of the Lights is decent but Fergie's part just grates on me...overall the album isn't bad (Kanye is still Kanye, after all), but I'd rank all his other albums (minus 808s) above it.
I want to like this album, and I want to appreciate it the way so many people do. Why is it hailed so often as his greatest work? What do you get from it?
If you're hearing Fergie in "All of the lights" you're either listening to the wrong album or you're on something. Bring whatever it is to the farm. Lol I love MBDTF but if you don't get it you don't get it. I would just keep listening and maybe it'll grow on you, that happens to me a ton but just might not be your cup of tea. Yeezus really grew on me big time. I didn't like blood on the leaves and hold my liquor when I first heard them. Now I absolutely love them. Just happens like that sometimes.
Okay, I need you guys to convert me. I've been a big Kanye fan since he first came out, and College Dropout is still my favorite album of all time. But whenever I see people talk about his music, MBDTF is quite often regarded as his best album, and I just don't get it. It seems overly poppy to me in comparison to his other albums (not counting 808s - that album I just sweep under my mental rug when it comes to Kanye), the chorus on Monster annoys me, All of the Lights is decent but Fergie's part just grates on me...overall the album isn't bad (Kanye is still Kanye, after all), but I'd rank all his other albums (minus 808s) above it.
I want to like this album, and I want to appreciate it the way so many people do. Why is it hailed so often as his greatest work? What do you get from it?
If you're hearing Fergie in "All of the lights" you're either listening to the wrong album or you're on something. Bring whatever it is to the farm. Lol I love MBDTF but if you don't get it you don't get it. I would just keep listening and maybe it'll grow on you, that happens to me a ton but just might not be your cup of tea. Yeezus really grew on me big time. I didn't like blood on the leaves and hold my liquor when I first heard them. Now I absolutely love them. Just happens like that sometimes.
"Unemployment line, credit card declined..." is that verse not Fergie? The internet says it is.
If you're hearing Fergie in "All of the lights" you're either listening to the wrong album or you're on something. Bring whatever it is to the farm. Lol I love MBDTF but if you don't get it you don't get it. I would just keep listening and maybe it'll grow on you, that happens to me a ton but just might not be your cup of tea. Yeezus really grew on me big time. I didn't like blood on the leaves and hold my liquor when I first heard them. Now I absolutely love them. Just happens like that sometimes.
"Unemployment line, credit card declined..." is that verse not Fergie? The internet says it is.
Lol you're right that's my mistake I assumed you were getting Rihannas part mixed up with Fergie.
Okay, I need you guys to convert me. I've been a big Kanye fan since he first came out, and College Dropout is still my favorite album of all time. But whenever I see people talk about his music, MBDTF is quite often regarded as his best album, and I just don't get it. It seems overly poppy to me in comparison to his other albums (not counting 808s - that album I just sweep under my mental rug when it comes to Kanye), the chorus on Monster annoys me, All of the Lights is decent but Fergie's part just grates on me...overall the album isn't bad (Kanye is still Kanye, after all), but I'd rank all his other albums (minus 808s) above it.
I want to like this album, and I want to appreciate it the way so many people do. Why is it hailed so often as his greatest work? What do you get from it?
For me it's all about Kanye starting to spread his wings a bit more. Two of my favorite bands are My Morning Jacket and Wilco and one of the main reasons for that is because these are bands that started in one genre with one sound but didn't just stick with that. Both bands were somewhere between alt-country and rock but as they started to release more and more albums they really started to evolve their sound and take more chances (longer songs, more electronic or unique instruments and accompaniment, samples...etc.). Just overall getting more and more creative.
Now, it could probably be argued that 808's and Heartbreak is more like the first one where Kanye changes some stuff up but I'm not really as familiar with that album so I couldn't tell ya. I plan on listening to it more soon.
But with MBDTF and more specifically Yeezus I feel like we're seeing Kanye doing some things that don't shackle him to one genre. It's not just good hip hop....it's good music. Trying out a few sprawling 8 and 9 minute songs that feel like epic masterpieces when live, working with some out of the box guests and coming up with some beats that can change up the whole tone of a song in a heartbeat. That stuff works for me. I'm listening to Runaway right now which is one of my favorites from the album and that was 100% confirmed at the Kanye show I saw last week. This song had the audience going insane and EVERYONE was singing along. This was just one of the songs that were drenched in singalong love at the show but it was the one that really stood out to me. Like...I really cannot wait to see 60,000+ people in the What field singing along to this song.
But anyway, yea....trying new things. If Kanye wanted he could very simply just make a bunch of rap beats that sound like everything else you've heard for a while and rap some basic lyrics over them. He could be dumbing things down and just making songs for the club or for pop radio but he's trying to really express something from inside of him and he's taking risks in doing so. Yeezus is a challenge and while MBDTF seems to be more like hip hop than the departure that Yeezus was you can still see some inklings of him working outside of the box.
I'm much, much more familiar with Kanye's first three albums and old mixtapes/singles but MBDTF was one that snuck up on me. I liked it at first. Loved the Monster video so that got me to really want to check out the full thing so I was really impressed and happy to hear him sampling King Crimson on Power. When I was first learning who Kanye was it was around the time that he used the Doors sample on a Jay-z track and that stood out to me as something that you don't always see in a lot of awesome rap beats. He does it even better with the beat for Power. Then the way the album flows from there into All of the Lights and Monster really worked for me.
I wouldn't call MBDTF my favorite. I think College Dropout still holds that spot for me for a variety of reasons. But I just like seeing him do something different and unique and evolving his sound with his releases. Not just settling on basic bubblegum rap which would be so easy to do.
Runaway is the most overrated Kanye song ever. I like it ok but people acting like it cracks even the top 10 Kanye songs is ridiculous.
Wait until it's played at Bonnaroo and everyone is singing along to it. I got chills at Nassau Coliseum last weekend when that happened. Made me really excited to hear it on the farm. Even better if we get a surprise Pusha T appearance. Not sure it makes my top 10 overall but it's definitely one of my top ones on the album.
THE DISRESPECT FOR "ALL OF THE LIGHTS" IN THIS THREAD!!! For me "All of the lights" is probably Kanye's 2nd best song ever, at least 3rd with "Runaway" being the only other one that I could argue should be there.
1. Through the Wire 2. All of the Lights 3. Runaway
I love all Kanyes songs but I'll never forget where I was and what I was doing the first time I heard those three songs. "All of the lights interlude" leading into "All of the lights" gave me chills the first time I heard it and still does every single time. I remember my freshman year of high school I was in computer class listening to music on yahoo musics website and "Through the wire" was recommended to me. So I checked it out and it blew me away. Everything about it. That night I made my mom take me to the mall, and I bought The College Dropout with the money I'd been planning on using to take this girl to the movies with. I ditched her and didn't go to the movies and she hated me after that. She grew up to be extremely hot. Still the best decision I ever made.
Love this story. I used to have this car CD player in my room that would exclusively play College Dropout. My iPod mini rocked Late Registration. Every time I hear All of the Lights I think about the lead up to MBDTF when Kanye was in his golden age of tweeting. He tweeted one time "I just threw kazoo on this bitch!!" referring to AOTL (probably back when it was Ghetto University and had a Drake verse).
Also I thought Runaway was kinda whack when I first heard it on the radio, and so I didn't listen to closely on the album version. Then on one of my first listen-throughs I was driving back from a long trip and crossing the bay bridge as the vocoder breakdown was playing and it hit me how incredible the song is. I almost hate how much I love MBDTF because it is so clearly Kanye giving us everything he knows we want from him.
Runaway is the most overrated Kanye song ever. I like it ok but people acting like it cracks even the top 10 Kanye songs is ridiculous.
Wait until it's played at Bonnaroo and everyone is singing along to it. I got chills at Nassau Coliseum last weekend when that happened. Made me really excited to hear it on the farm. Even better if we get a surprise Pusha T appearance. Not sure it makes my top 10 overall but it's definitely one of my top ones on the album.
I have seen it live. And to each his own but I would take at least 6 over songs over it on MBDTF. I don't dislike any Kanye song as he is probably a top three favorite artist of all time for me. I just think Runaway is a little cheesy. I also think Blood on the Leaves is overrated for the same reason people act like it's the best song on Yeezus.
