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Aside from Bonnaroo, a lot of fests this year have pulled away from their roots. It's turning into a mainstream feast in the festival circuit, sadly because people 30-50 don't really want to drop dough on a lineup. The kids and young college kids will though if the fest brings the right acts. Look at Coachella, I was like well it's better than last year but it's stil 395 bucks. Look at the EDM over saturation. It's what's trending. Look at a crowd for Chrvches, Lorde, or Foster the People and compare it to a crowd for QOTSA, Bryan Ferry, or even Outkast. If fests want to survive, they have to appeal to the mainstream, and still stick to their roots for the veteran fest goers. That's not easy, but Bonnaroo, Coachella to some extent, and Lolla last year merge it quite well. ACL will be more mainstream than you are used to, but it's because they don't really have a choice. The young people are what sells out these fests. I hope I'm wrong, but did you see Outside Lands? Macklemore and Ryan Lewis on the second line? Really? Times are changing my festival friends.
Bonnaroo sure hasn't pulled away from its roots at all. Nope. And Bonnaroo certainly doesn't book anything mainstream.
Post by eclecticmusicdude89 on Apr 18, 2014 18:15:49 GMT -5
Like I said the only fest that hasn't pulled away from their roots this year is Bonnaroo. They booked a lot of acts that are geared towards bluegrass, jam bands. Like when it originally started. They also have some more mainstream acts, but having Elton John and Jack White as their headliners shows that they haven't forgot about their roots. Kanye being at the top is also exciting because of what happened in 2008, it makes his set more intriguing for most. As I stated, most fests are gearing towards younger audiences. ACL booking Eminem proves my theory again. Once you book Eminem, you don't have much money left to work with. He is mainstream whether you want to believe it or not. Clearly C3 is moving in a new direction of how they book acts going forward.
Like I said the only fest that hasn't pulled away from their roots this year is Bonnaroo. They booked a lot of acts that are geared towards bluegrass, jam bands. Like when it originally started. They also have some more mainstream acts, but having Elton John and Jack White as their headliners shows that they haven't forgot about their roots. Kanye being at the top is also exciting because of what happened in 2008, it makes his set more intriguing for most. As I stated, most fests are gearing towards younger audiences. ACL booking Eminem proves my theory again. Once you book Eminem, you don't have much money left to work with. He is mainstream whether you want to believe it or not. Clearly C3 is moving in a new direction of how they book acts going forward.
We haven't seen what the rest of the line-up and it a bit too soon to say say they are going a different direction. It looks like c3 got a discount on Eminem since he is playing Lolla as well. I am sure he is getting paid a pretty penny to play the fest, but I don't think they are going to break the bank with him either. I mentioned in another thread most festivals are having off years due to booking bands that are touring instead of ones they would rather have on top of just banking on a sellout crowd no matter what they put together, which did happen anyways. I do think that Lolla was affected by that to a point and just threw anything together when they saw what they had compared to other festivals. Probably the reason why the line-up didn't leak too early this year because there wasn't anything to boast about.
Post by eclecticmusicdude89 on Apr 18, 2014 19:01:33 GMT -5
Weird that Eminem would give ACL a price cut, even though he played Lolla only 3 years ago and gets the same payout. My guess was that Lolla's lineup hurt because of booking Eminem. The undercard is strong but not like last year. ACL could have a strong lineup if they didn't break the bank on Eminem. Pretty sure Outkast would be at ACL too, because they aren't playing the Fun Fun Fun fest, so this would have to be their lone/most likely last festival date, in TX. The Killers seems likely since this is their last tour before their hiatus. So there's 3 headliners most likely right there. Since C3 couldn't get Arcade Fire at Lolla, I'm guessing Arcade Fire will be at ACL. So there's a potential 4. Leaving the other two up in the air. A lot of people are saying Skrillex will get a headlining spot, but ACL hasn't really paid much attention to EDM in the past.
Weird that Eminem would give ACL a price cut, even though he played Lolla only 3 years ago and gets the same payout. My guess was that Lolla's lineup hurt because of booking Eminem. The undercard is strong but not like last year. ACL could have a strong lineup if they didn't break the bank on Eminem. Pretty sure Outkast would be at ACL too, because they aren't playing the Fun Fun Fun fest, so this would have to be their lone/most likely last festival date, in TX. The Killers seems likely since this is their last tour before their hiatus. So there's 3 headliners most likely right there. Since C3 couldn't get Arcade Fire at Lolla, I'm guessing Arcade Fire will be at ACL. So there's a potential 4. Leaving the other two up in the air. A lot of people are saying Skrillex will get a headlining spot, but ACL hasn't really paid much attention to EDM in the past.
Is Eminem any good live? Like when he came to Roo in '11, how did that go?
He's ok, he leans pretty heavily on backing tracks which is too bad cause his vocal ability is his best asset. I enjoyed him more than most in 2011, but I don't have any desire to see him again.
Look at that card. Seriously. Put them and Lolla next to each other. ACL got the better of it for sure with Beck, the Replacements, and PJ most of all, but my God this is a shift from 2013. I guess it's my fault for using that as a comparison.
Thank God for PJ. Otherwise we're looking at Lolla part II. Fuck C3 seriously. This clearly shows the direction they're heading in.
Um, this is a pretty good lineup?
If I wasn't doing Lolla I'd be real happy. But last year the top lines were different enough to warrant going to both. I was hoping to get a similar feel this year after Lolla botched there's. There's some difference but not a ton. Definitely not as much as last year. Once again, Calvin Harris and Skrillex both headlining. Headlining a festival that's supposed to have the oldest demographic of the major fests. It's just a shift I didn't see coming I guess. I didn't have crazy expectations of rare acts. Just an older demo with bigger artists. Sure Beck and The Replacements skew a little older but I guess they don't carry the weight of some of the acts that played last year. Not to me at least.
Honestly I think I'm just more frustrated that Lolla is in my hometown and easy to go to but ACL has now officially passed them out of C3's festivals. I was hoping they'd be diff enough to do both, but at this point Lolla's not even worth it other than for the reason that it's convenient.
Honestly I think I'm just more frustrated that Lolla is in my hometown and easy to go to but ACL has now officially passed them out of C3's festivals. I was hoping they'd be diff enough to do both, but at this point Lolla's not even worth it other than for the reason that it's convenient.
I wouldn't mind seeing the very first OutKast reunion show, and the very last of the tour (if that were indeed the case) for comparison purposes, and to see them again. Also, I've loved PJ since the 90s and have only seen them like three times...one of them being at my first Roo in '08 (great show)!!! We shall see what the lineup brings tomorrow! I'll def be at Weekend 1, whether I get tix tomorrow or not!
Honestly I think I'm just more frustrated that Lolla is in my hometown and easy to go to but ACL has now officially passed them out of C3's festivals. I was hoping they'd be diff enough to do both, but at this point Lolla's not even worth it other than for the reason that it's convenient.
What's your loyalty to C3?
None. They just happen to run 2 of the bigger fests in the US and one just happens to be in my hometown. Thats pretty much it. Shit idc who runs Lolla. Just go back to having more rock bands. Especially in Chicago when we already have Spring Awakening and North Coast. Was hopin Lolla would avoid this hip hop/edm trend but instead they were completely revolved around it. Which led me to thinking ACL would be drasticaly diff. Its def better, just not as diff as I thought.
None. They just happen to run 2 of the bigger fests in the US and one just happens to be in my hometown. Thats pretty much it. Shit idc who runs Lolla. Just go back to having more rock bands. Especially in Chicago when we already have Spring Awakening and North Coast. Was hopin Lolla would avoid this hip hop/edm trend but instead they were completely revolved around it. Which led me to thinking ACL would be drasticaly diff. Its def better, just not as diff as I thought.
Well that was just wishful thinking on your part. Lolla had always been heavy on EDM. It just seems strange to me that after you were massively disappointed by Lolla you decided to get your hopes up about a different festival run by the same people being significantly better.
