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They certainly won't be a headliner. I know many of us love them and that they play well to the Bonnaroo crowd but they still aren't quite there. The only way they headline is if AC blow their wad on the headliners for the other 2 nights, like...
Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Jul 1, 2014 9:52:00 GMT -5
My bet is that CappDogg gives them a year to hype their new album (which comes out in the spring) then lets them wind down the supporting tour as a headliner in 2016.
Alternatively, AC doesn't book MMJ till 2016 because they love booking headliners a year late.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jul 1, 2014 10:04:33 GMT -5
MMJ Headliner would be great but I'd also accept a dual-headliner thing (Stevie/Jay-z) or a late night What.
Late night Which would be killer but been there, done that.
I'm not banking on it though....I feel like they are one of the bands that I love the most but a majority of people have no clue who they are when I say their name.
I was talking to a few folks last night about this; it seems to me like Roo has been booking increasingly larger headliners the past few years: Radiohead/RHCP/Phish, Macca/Mumford/Petty, Kanye/JW/Elton...MMJ is not on the same tier popularity-wise as any of these guys. Yes, WSP have headlined before, but Roo was much jammier then. I agree that if MMJ is gonna headline anywhere, it's gonna be at Roo, but I feel like that would be a step backward, considering the past few years' headliners. I wouldn't mind an MMJ HL set just because I'd like to see them and it'd be one less LN conflict, but I don't see it happening, unless they go the route theshining said and book a ridiculously huge #1 and #2.
Flip shit? Nah we should thrown him a parade. Having a ________ can't headline thread is pretty much required for at least one of our headliners (Kanye, Mumford, AF, King of Leon, Black Keys, etc.). This thread is just another step in the process
Edit: I missed the WSP talk. WSP is bigger than AF. Duh
Yeah they certainly aren't as big with the Roo crowd as Widespread Panic.......
I'm not a fan of WP, but they're among the top five jam bands ever.
Well they don't have a lot of competition What are they being judged on? I guess popularity.
The (Grateful) Dead (Further, Phil Lesh & Friends, Bob Weir and Ratdog, Planet Drum-lol) Phish String Cheese Incident Umphrey's McGee Moe Disco Biscuits STS9 i guess The Trey Anastasio Band
So yeah, I guess Widespread Panic makes the top 5.
But that's like making the top 5 ...in something where there aren't a lot more than five options in the first place...
I'm not a fan of WP, but they're among the top five jam bands ever.
Well they don't have a lot of competition What are they being judged on? I guess popularity.
The (Grateful) Dead (Further, Phil Lesh & Friends, Bob Weir and Ratdog, Planet Drum-lol) Phish String Cheese Incident Umphrey's McGee Moe Disco Biscuits STS9 i guess The Trey Anastasio Band
So yeah, I guess Widespread Panic makes the top 5.
But that's like making the top 5 ...in something where there aren't a lot more than five options in the first place...
None of this makes Widespread Panic any less popular.
I think MMJ could headline the next time they play Bonnaroo. Why does Coachella always have to be the one to break headliners? It's the perfect combo, Roo and MMJ, and I think Jack White was the smallest headliner Roo has had in years. Love the guy, but I was surprised to see him headline when I saw the lineup. I was there when he headlined Hangout, which may have been his first headlining show and thought that was appropriate, but I didn't see him headlining Roo. I guess he has gotten bigger with his third man stuff and a few loud quarrels that gave him a bunch of pub.
I definitely agree that unless their upcoming album is a f*cking rock solid smash hit, they will not headline.
That being said, would 4th billed and a late night What set be possible? I'd like to think so. I need some late night MMJ in my life and I just don't think they'd work on the Which anymore.
For the record I am a pretty calm person and I don't get angry easily, but if MMJ gets another 90 minute set I will burn shit
I thought they had 2 hours in 2011. Either way, MMJ should just always play epic late night sets at roo. They're kind of the perfect band for it.
Maybe you are right. Either way it was a really mediocre setlist for someone that sees them regularly. That show was aimed to the new fans, which is fine, but I want a fan oriented set.
Is it unrealistic to say MMJ have rose to about as far a level they'll ever reach? I mean we accept where bands like Vampire Weekend, Phoenix, and QOTSA are billed, yet we always have this impulse to unjustifiably bump this 15 year old act up to headliner status. Do we really think their next album (which we all know will be great) will be enough to catapult them to the next level?
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Is it unrealistic to say MMJ have risen to about as far a level they'll ever reach? I mean we accept where bands like Vampire Weekend, Phoenix, and QOTSA are billed, yet we always have this impulse to unjustifiably bump this 15 year old act up to headliner status. Do we really think their next album (which we all know will be great) will be enough to catapult them to the next level?
I'd say that's fair, I don't think they'll ever headline. But don't underestimate the power of a fanbase that will follow you around the country to see different setlists. The more albums they put out and the more tours they run, the bigger that "let me check the setlist from last night" fanbase becomes. I'm not sure about QOTSA to be honest, but Vampire Weekend and Phoenix are never going to be the type of band that gets that "road warrior" cred.