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except for all the people that play those and don't headline
Because they don't get book. People were saying he wouldn't headline if he got booked. United center just had U2 and has the who and Madonna coming up.
except for all the people that play those and don't headline
Because they don't get book. People were saying he wouldn't headline if he got book. United center just had U2 and has the who and Madonna coming up.
Well the argument is that plenty of artists have played MSG recently and subsequently played Roo and have not been headliners.
David Gilmour is playing four dates in North America, which allows him to play any venue he wants because he'll draw a lot of people to each show. I think he could definitely be a headliner at Bonnaroo, but I could also see him being billed 4th.
except for all the people that play those and don't headline
Because they don't get book. People were saying he wouldn't headline if he got book. United center just had U2 and has the who and Madonna coming up.
United Center, yes. But non-headliner acts frequently play MSG as the main act. J. Cole, Faith No More, Death Cab for Cutie, Zedd, and Stromae all have "headlining" shows at MSG this summer. Alt-J had a headlining show at MSG earlier this year. Not saying this necessarily applies to Gilmour.
I'm having trouble pulling 2 tickets to MSG. Did Alt-J sell this well? Or any of those other bands people are inexplicably comparing to David Gilmour?
Edit: Also, it appears Gilmour is selling all the tickets behind the stage as well. Scratch that, not sure if it's true.
Again, the exclusivity of these shows makes them a huge draw. If he doesn't plan on doing any sort of full tour, then that would also apply to Roo and would land him a headliner spot.
And it's not really "inexplicable." If one is going to use the fact that an artist playing Madison Square Garden makes them "headliner potential" then pointing out why that is a flawed argument is entirely appropriate.
I'm having trouble pulling 2 tickets to MSG. Did Alt-J sell this well? Or any of those other bands people are inexplicably comparing to David Gilmour?
Edit: Also, it appears Gilmour is selling all the tickets behind the stage as well. Scratch that, not sure if it's true.
I think the Alt-J concert did eventually sell out, but probably nowhere near as fast. The reason Alt-J and other acts were mentioned was to provide evidence against the assertion that an act who plays a headlining show at MSG is automatically a headliner. Not saying this necessarily applies to Gilmour.
Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Jul 17, 2015 9:33:50 GMT -5
I think most people are assuming that when a prominent former-Pink Floyd member tours a show suitable for arenas, and those shows sell well, that makes him headliner material, especially at Bonnaroo.
I think most people are assuming that when a prominent former-Pink Floyd member tours a show suitable for arenas, and those shows sell well, that makes him headliner material, especially at Bonnaroo.
I'm having trouble pulling 2 tickets to MSG. Did Alt-J sell this well? Or any of those other bands people are inexplicably comparing to David Gilmour?
Edit: Also, it appears Gilmour is selling all the tickets behind the stage as well. Scratch that, not sure if it's true.
Again, the exclusivity of these shows makes them a huge draw. If he doesn't plan on doing any sort of full tour, then that would also apply to Roo and would land him a headliner spot.
And it's not really "inexplicable." If one is going to use the fact that an artist playing Madison Square Garden makes them "headliner potential" then pointing out why that is a flawed argument is entirely appropriate.
What gives him "headliner potential" is he is David Gilmour. Why are we still talking about this?
Again, the exclusivity of these shows makes them a huge draw. If he doesn't plan on doing any sort of full tour, then that would also apply to Roo and would land him a headliner spot.
And it's not really "inexplicable." If one is going to use the fact that an artist playing Madison Square Garden makes them "headliner potential" then pointing out why that is a flawed argument is entirely appropriate.
What gives him "headliner potential" is he is David Gilmour. Why are we still talking about this?
This is where the Robert Plant argument comes into play. What gives Gilmour headliner potential is that he hasn't done a major tour in forever (10 years) and has never played a US festival.
Post by Swedish Chef on Jul 17, 2015 9:41:07 GMT -5
Fun fact: Pink Floyd wanted to play Glastonbury in 2008, prior to Rick Wright's death, but Glastonbury ultimately denied their offer because three headliners were already booked.
The longer this is contested, more and more I begin to doubt that some of you have any clue to what you're talking about. I mean we have fucking Sang acting as the voice of reason in here.
What gives him "headliner potential" is he is David Gilmour. Why are we still talking about this?
This is where the Robert Plant argument comes into play. What gives Gilmour headliner potential is that he hasn't done a major tour in forever (10 years) and has never played a US festival.
Robert Plant is really a bad comparison here. The kind of show he puts on is not the kind of show David Gilmour tours. Not everyone wants to go hear some broken down, bluegrass version of Black Dog. But people will pay whatever it takes to hear Pink Floyd in pristine form. I mean do you guys realize that a Pink Floyd tribute band tours amphitheaters? Locally, it's the same one that Alabama Shakes and QOTSA booked last time around.
Edit: Point being, the tour wouldn't headline based soley on exclusivity. It's because he's David Gilmour - a much bigger touring deal than Robert Plant will ever be alone.
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I think most people are assuming that when a prominent former-Pink Floyd member tours a show suitable for arenas, and those shows sell well, that makes him headliner material, especially at Bonnaroo.
i thought gilmour doesn't play much Floyd?
I'm not sure he's played enough recently to say one way or the other, but I was more discussing it in terms of name recognition. If Thom Yorke dropped off the face of the planet and 15 years later announced a new album and an MSG date, I'd imagine it'd sell out and the diehards would love even if he played no Radiohead.
I think most people are assuming that when a prominent former-Pink Floyd member tours a show suitable for arenas, and those shows sell well, that makes him headliner material, especially at Bonnaroo.
i thought gilmour doesn't play much Floyd?
The majority of his sets always weighs heavy on Pink Floyd material. I would compare it to Macca's setlist. You have to deal with some new-ish stuff but you still get the hits.
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I think most people are assuming that when a prominent former-Pink Floyd member tours a show suitable for arenas, and those shows sell well, that makes him headliner material, especially at Bonnaroo.
Everyone's going to be upset when he only plays Glasto and Coach. And it will probably be at the fault of David stumbling into Inforoo's headliner/Gilmour threads.
I think most people are assuming that when a prominent former-Pink Floyd member tours a show suitable for arenas, and those shows sell well, that makes him headliner material, especially at Bonnaroo.
I'll agree that the fact that he's opted to play arenas has altered my thinking a bit because part of my argument a while back was that he preferred smaller venues. I'll just leave it at thinking he won't be billed anywhere below #4, and if he's at Roo, I will be too without a question.
The majority of his sets always weighs heavy on Pink Floyd material. I would compare it to Macca's setlist. You have to deal with some new-ish stuff but you still get the hits.
Not necessarily true. First of all, he's only done two big tours (1984 and 2006). The 2006 shows were about 50/50 in terms of solo vs. Pink Floyd songs. The 1984 shows almost entirely consisted of solo songs.
