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Given the absolute greed of landlords I doubt this will do much but its worth a try.
This could turn out to be a blessing in disguise.
Great Scott was and The Sinclair is a Bowery Boston venue. The Sinclair was dark on way too many nights. A lot of the shows which would have happened at Great Scott can now be moved to The Sinclair.
The Sinclair is still relatively close to Allston/Brighton, if not Brookline, and is so much more conveniently located to Cambridge, Somerville, Medford, Arlington, Watertown, and Belmont than was Great Scott. There's parking in Harvard Square and subway/bus lines which you can catch steps from the venue which go to all of the above-mentioned places, as well as downtown Boston.
Plus, The Sinclair starts and ends their shows around an hour earlier than Great Scott, which works a lot better for the youngest fans at all ages shows and the oldest fans at most any show.
Given the absolute greed of landlords I doubt this will do much but its worth a try.
This could turn out to be a blessing in disguise.
Great Scott was and The Sinclair is a Bowery
I disagree personally. i get your points but IMO great scott being gone will make it WORSE for live music in this city. Acts that are too small for the Sinclair but too big for places like Obriens or Lilypad now have only ONCE ballroom and the middle east upstairs as an option. It was also one of the few major non livenation/ticketmaster venues.
edit: not to mention it had a shit ton of local bands playing there, and was a great way for them to gain exposure
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Gov. Baker released a four-step plan for reopening the state today and the final step, at which point we've achieved "the new normal," according to his vague chart, will only come to pass when a vaccine or cure is available.
If that's 18 months from the time vaccine development began in January or February, that could wipe out live music in the Boston area well into the summer of 2021.
Of course, if things have reopened successfully in most other states by spring of next year, I'm sure that Massachusetts will follow suit. If the NYC live music scene is happening in 2021, after being the single worst hotspot in the world in 2020, it's likely that we'll have live music here, too.
Gov. Baker released a four-step plan for reopening the state today and the final step, at which point we've achieved "the new normal," according to his vague chart, will only come to pass when a vaccine or cure is available.
If that's 18 months from the time vaccine development began in January or February, that could wipe out live music in the Boston area well into the summer of 2021.
Of course, if things have reopened successfully in most other states by spring of next year, I'm sure that Massachusetts will follow suit. If the NYC live music scene is happening in 2021, after being the single worst hotspot in the world in 2020, it's likely that we'll have live music here, too.
They release those plans, then toss them out the window when enough inbred yahoos packing semiautomatic weapons storm the capital and demand their right to a buzz cut and a Kid Rock concert. Let’s not forget half of them are anti-vaxxers.
Given the absolute greed of landlords I doubt this will do much but its worth a try.
This could turn out to be a blessing in disguise.
Great Scott was and The Sinclair is a Bowery Boston venue. The Sinclair was dark on way too many nights. A lot of the shows which would have happened at Great Scott can now be moved to The Sinclair.
The Sinclair is still relatively close to Allston/Brighton, if not Brookline, and is so much more conveniently located to Cambridge, Somerville, Medford, Arlington, Watertown, and Belmont than was Great Scott. There's parking in Harvard Square and subway/bus lines which you can catch steps from the venue which go to all of the above-mentioned places, as well as downtown Boston.
Plus, The Sinclair starts and ends their shows around an hour earlier than Great Scott, which works a lot better for the youngest fans at all ages shows and the oldest fans at most any show.
I get looking for the positives but there’s no blessing in disguise here. Boston losing its best venue just sucks despite The Sinclair’s awesomeness.
Great Scott was and The Sinclair is a Bowery Boston venue. The Sinclair was dark on way too many nights. A lot of the shows which would have happened at Great Scott can now be moved to The Sinclair.
The Sinclair is still relatively close to Allston/Brighton, if not Brookline, and is so much more conveniently located to Cambridge, Somerville, Medford, Arlington, Watertown, and Belmont than was Great Scott. There's parking in Harvard Square and subway/bus lines which you can catch steps from the venue which go to all of the above-mentioned places, as well as downtown Boston.
Plus, The Sinclair starts and ends their shows around an hour earlier than Great Scott, which works a lot better for the youngest fans at all ages shows and the oldest fans at most any show.
I get looking for the positives but there’s no blessing in disguise here. Boston losing its best venue just sucks despite The Sinclair’s awesomeness.
Yeah i get his take because since he doesn't drive it's kind of a difficult venue to catch shows at but otherwise it has very few flaws. I love going to shows there because its by far the easiest venue to park at in the city.
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Actually, that'd be Middle East imo - with a parking garage a block away.
Last couple times I went to Paradise, I was able to find some street parking too.
Aren't the BU lots behind the Agganis available for parking at the Paradise, too, if there isn't anything happening at the arena that night? I've seen a lot of people park there for nearby clubs.
Post by theeimportance on May 12, 2020 17:02:12 GMT -5
This makes me miss living in Allston. A few minutes away from Great Scott, Brighton Music Hall, Paradise and a short 66 ride to The Sinclair and the Middle East. My condolences to those who have to drive around Boston but hey somewhat easy access to the Pavillion or whatever its called now.
I've never tried parking at BU so I don't know about that. The times I've gone to shows at Agganis, I end up taking the T. I just wish there was a better way getting there from the south and west, cause it takes forever if you're coming in from the Green D.
I used to sometimes use the parking garage next to Ruggles/Northeastern on the Orange line. But then they ended the weekend special rates, so I don't do that anymore.
Also, having to deal with 93 completely negates whatever good situation you might have with the Pavilion. But, I hate driving in Boston (or any big city) in general.
I loved driving to Great Scott due to the ample metered parking around the area which makes it cheap or free most of the time, plus super convenient to smoke some bud in between sets.
Agganis is a bit of a bitch to park at but theres a prepaid lot you can get a ticket for thats about a 5 minute walk which is pretty nice compred to taking the green line all that way or parking in the lot right next to the arena and taking forever to get out.
The Sinclair, Royale, House Of Blues, TD Garden, Big Night Live, the Pavillion, Wang, Orpheum i just use parkwhiz for and its usually anywhere from 5-15 bucks. not bad considering the T is similarly priced and super unreliable lol.
for Paradise and Brighton Music Hall I just park in a lil BU parking garage on Babcock Street. its like 10 bucks but super convenient.
Really the worst venue to drive to in MA is by far Xfinity Center. you NEED premium parking otherwise youre stuck there for at least 2 hours after the show. also 95 south sucks hard
I tend to leave like 5-10 min early so I don't get stuck in the traffic. Though the last time I saw DMB there, it wasn't any help. I got stuck in some overflow parking lot way in the back, and it took until almost 1230 before I got out. Probably the wrong night to hang around at Flynn's (in Mansfield center) until 630.
95 South is just awful all the time though. I work in Mansfield, so I have to deal with that shit all the time.
Really sad to hear about Great Scott. Venues of that size are so crucial for acts moving from local bars to proper venues, and they're disappearing everywhere.
Xfinity Centre (fka Comcast Centre / Tweeter Centre / Great Woods) can eat a bag of dicks. It's in the middle of nowhere, not really convenient to either Boston or Providence. The small town roads aren't built to accommodate crowds of 20,000, which creates insane traffic jams. The first time I saw Radiohead, traffic was so bad that it took me two hours to get from the highway exit into the venue (I missed their first few songs and all of Grizzly Bear). Then once you're inside, the low roof and the massive columns holding it up mean that you're pretty much guaranteed a shitty view unless you splurged on the best seats.
Really sad to hear about Great Scott. Venues of that size are so crucial for acts moving from local bars to proper venues, and they're disappearing everywhere.
Xfinity Centre (fka Comcast Centre / Tweeter Centre / Great Woods) can eat a bag of dicks. It's in the middle of nowhere, not really convenient to either Boston or Providence. The small town roads aren't built to accommodate crowds of 20,000, which creates insane traffic jams. The first time I saw Radiohead, traffic was so bad that it took me two hours to get from the highway exit into the venue (I missed their first few songs and all of Grizzly Bear). Then once you're inside, the low roof and the massive columns holding it up mean that you're pretty much guaranteed a shitty view unless you splurged on the best seats.
It's been a long time since I've been to Mansfield -- mid-90's, I think -- and the big problem with the venue is that while a lot of amphitheaters incorporate a lot of wood in the design, I seem to recall a lot more metal and plastic in Mansfield than at Saratoga Springs or Mann Music Center, both of which I had been to many years ago.
The sound is a lot better at an amphitheater if the ceiling is covered with wood.
Post by Jeremy Fragrance on May 13, 2020 11:11:32 GMT -5
I bike in for shows whenever possible, usually parking my bike somewhere in east Cambridge and walking the rest of the way to the venue (unless it's the Pavilion)
Really sad to hear about Great Scott. Venues of that size are so crucial for acts moving from local bars to proper venues, and they're disappearing everywhere.
Xfinity Centre (fka Comcast Centre / Tweeter Centre / Great Woods) can eat a bag of dicks. It's in the middle of nowhere, not really convenient to either Boston or Providence. The small town roads aren't built to accommodate crowds of 20,000, which creates insane traffic jams. The first time I saw Radiohead, traffic was so bad that it took me two hours to get from the highway exit into the venue (I missed their first few songs and all of Grizzly Bear). Then once you're inside, the low roof and the massive columns holding it up mean that you're pretty much guaranteed a shitty view unless you splurged on the best seats.
It's been a long time since I've been to Mansfield -- mid-90's, I think -- and the big problem with the venue is that while a lot of amphitheaters incorporate a lot of wood in the design, I seem to recall a lot more metal and plastic in Mansfield than at Saratoga Springs or Mann Music Center, both of which I had been to many years ago.
The sound is a lot better at an amphitheater if the ceiling is covered with wood.
Never had any sound problems at Xfinity Center. Though I hear that the speakers on the lawn suck.
I was at the same Radiohead show mentioned by Cap'n Mac and remember not being able to leave the parking lot until after 1am and then not getting back in NH until 3 in the morning. Worth it though. Still one of my all-time favorite concerts.
The last few times I was there, I refused to skip the encore and just ran as fast as I could out the door to beat the traffic. Didn't always work, but fuck missing music.
Post by theeimportance on May 13, 2020 12:03:18 GMT -5
I think the only show I managed to see at Mansfield was Arcade Fire on the Reflektor tour. Crazy to think they made it from TTs to the Xfinity and TD only to play the Pavillion at the end of the Everything Now tour.
I bike in for shows whenever possible, usually parking my bike somewhere in east Cambridge and walking the rest of the way to the venue (unless it's the Pavilion)
I bike in for shows whenever possible, usually parking my bike somewhere in east Cambridge and walking the rest of the way to the venue (unless it's the Pavilion)
I think the only show I managed to see at Mansfield was Arcade Fire on the Reflektor tour. Crazy to think they made it from TTs to the Xfinity and TD only to play the Pavillion at the end of the Everything Now tour.
I was at that show as well! Great night, but the Xfinity Center was far from full. As good as the subsequent Everything Now tour was, it was also an exercise in hubris.
I think the only show I managed to see at Mansfield was Arcade Fire on the Reflektor tour. Crazy to think they made it from TTs to the Xfinity and TD only to play the Pavillion at the end of the Everything Now tour.
I was at that show as well! Great night, but the Xfinity Center was far from full. As good as the subsequent Everything Now tour was, it was also an exercise in hubris.
Yeah that was a great show especially the Pixies cover they did! I'm guessing their TD show was relatively empty too? Doing in the round shows was a pretty bold move for their first real arena tour. I had tickets to the TD and their shows in Quebec but had to sell them, never had a chance to catch the Everything Now tour.
I was at that show as well! Great night, but the Xfinity Center was far from full. As good as the subsequent Everything Now tour was, it was also an exercise in hubris.
Yeah that was a great show especially the Pixies cover they did! I'm guessing their TD show was relatively empty too? Doing in the round shows was a pretty bold move for their first real arena tour. I had tickets to the TD and their shows in Quebec but had to sell them, never had a chance to catch the Everything Now tour.
I was at that show as well! Great night, but the Xfinity Center was far from full. As good as the subsequent Everything Now tour was, it was also an exercise in hubris.
Yeah that was a great show especially the Pixies cover they did! I'm guessing their TD show was relatively empty too? Doing in the round shows was a pretty bold move for their first real arena tour. I had tickets to the TD and their shows in Quebec but had to sell them, never had a chance to catch the Everything Now tour.
it only sold to half capacity lmao. was a great show though
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I just posted this in the Boston Calling 2021 thread, but it belongs here, too:
There's bad news for Boston Calling and live music and entertainment in eastern Massachusetts, in general.
Due to decreased ridership on the MTBA due to the pandemic, they've announced cutbacks for 2021 service which are going to hurt a number of industries, especially live music.
Most notable is that commuter rail service is suspended on the weekends, which will make it difficult for a lot of people to get to Boston Calling (and weekend Red Sox, Pats, etc. games, for that matter).
Plus, all commuter rail weekday service will now shut down at 9 pm, which makes it impossible for anyone to come into town for an evening show via the commuter rail.
The commuter rail schedule change is slated to take place in January.
Starting later in 2021, perhaps as late as June, the last bus and subway runs will be at midnight, instead of 1 am. This will make things difficult for car-free people closer to town to get home from shows before transportation shuts down. Even shows that end by 10:30 or 11 may be problematic for people who need to make a bus connection after a subway ride or two.
The MBTA has mentioned that as ridership increases, post-pandemic, they'll restore service, but it will take time for them to hire and train more people and reactivate mothballed subway cars, buses, etc., so it could take a year or two after 2021 for service to return to pre-pandemic levels.
There's no way that any of this is good for the live music industry here.
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