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Procedural question: Can we lock in a four-way runoff between SFA, Viking, ZIG & Mike D... then all agree to time out and kill them all at once? Like a nuclear option?
Update: Read the rules again. I think that according to the rules: everyone involved would eventually receive two no-vote strikes against them, be auto-lynched in place of the Day vote, AND be suspended the following game. This could bring about an extinction event for Inforoo Mafia. But it's allowed.
Ref's Note: I'm getting on a plane to Las Vegas in a couple hours. I won't be on my personal computer again until Friday morning. Forgive me if my posts lack clarity and my responses are a tad slow. kdogg, feel free to post tallies if I'm late. You can even add the noob ref tally back in.
Day Two, Round One
Vote Tally SFA 4 (ZIG, kdogg, Rummy, Mike D) Mike D 3 (Viking, Carini, danbob) Viking 2 (SFA, Potent)
Vote History R1 Mike D > Viking R1 Viking > Mike D R1 kdogg > SFA R1 Potent > Mike D R1 SFA > Viking R1 Carini > Mike D R1 kdogg > SFA > Mike D R1 danbob > Mike D R1 ZIG > SFA R1 Potent > Mike D > Viking R1 kdogg > SFA > Mike D > SFA R1 Rummy > SFA R1 Mike D > SFA
Left To Vote N/A
This round will end on Monday, July 11th at 12:00 P.M. EDT
Ref's Note: I'm getting on a plane to Las Vegas in a couple hours. I won't be on my personal computer again until Friday morning. Forgive me if my posts lack clarity and my responses are a tad slow. kdogg, feel free to post tallies if I'm late. You can even add the noob ref tally back in.
Day Two, Round One
Vote Tally SFA 4 (ZIG, kdogg, Rummy, Mike D) Mike D 3 (Viking, Carini, danbob) Viking 2 (SFA, Potent)
Vote History R1 Mike D > Viking R1 Viking > Mike D R1 kdogg > SFA R1 Potent > Mike D R1 SFA > Viking R1 Carini > Mike D R1 kdogg > SFA > Mike D R1 danbob > Mike D R1 ZIG > SFA R1 Potent > Mike D > Viking R1 kdogg > SFA > Mike D > SFA R1 Rummy > SFA R1 Mike D > SFA
Left To Vote N/A
This round will end on Monday, July 11th at 12:00 P.M. EDT
Updated to include Mike D's initial vote in his changed vote: Vote Tally SFA 4 (ZIG, kdogg, Rummy, Mike D) Mike D 3 (Viking, Carini, danbob) Viking 2 (SFA, Potent)
Vote History R1 Mike D > Viking R1 Viking > Mike D R1 kdogg > SFA R1 Potent > Mike D R1 SFA > Viking R1 Carini > Mike D R1 kdogg > SFA > Mike D R1 danbob > Mike D R1 ZIG > SFA R1 Potent > Mike D > Viking R1 kdogg > SFA > Mike D > SFA R1 Rummy > SFA R1 Mike D > Viking > SFA
Ok a lot has been discussed here so I wont't dive into a huge post like I did with thor last round.
A couple of reasons why I think zig is full of shit.
1. He is the third player that Viking admitted he had suspicions for before zig "revealed". It seems a little (ok a lot) suspicious that one of the players viking has suspicions of comes out to refute his inspector claim. This alone cannot prove zig is lying though. Good thing I have more reasons!
2. Zig had said day 1 that the best way to "force mafia's hand" has to have them kill viking during the night. Now if zig is inspector than at this point of the game he knows that SFA (given name) and Viking are both mafia. This is the same amount of information that he had during his reveal. Now from the games I have read I would consider zig to be a competent player and a competent player who is inspector in that situation in day 1 should have known a) Viking would have not have been the night kill and b) his reveal would be less believable at any point after day 1. If zig is telling the truth he has the blood of thor on his hands (don't think he's telling the truth) and he has done the town a disfavor for waiting this long to reveal.
3. Zig stated at the beginning of day 2 he wanted to wait to take any actions until he heard from viking. Why? At this point you would have already known he was mafia - why do you want to hear from him? Shouldn't you be... ya know... helping town win the game?
4. He is stretching for reasons to call me suspicious. Yes I understand "he thinks I'm mafia so he must be mafia" is not a good reason to be suspicious. However, how does posting the post count too early d1 make me mafia? Yes I understand this is my first game however, I would like to think I am being a pretty good townie right now (unlike what you would be if you were actually inspector).
So yeah I could dive a bit deeper but I think kdogg did a good enough job on that already. I don't really see a reason to move my vote at this time as I believe Mike D is also mafia. Sorry zig it was a good effort. I did like reading your reveal posts though.
Another thing that sticks out I forgot to mention:
"Inspector ZIG" was part of a game with ten other players, and he just so happened to be given the same name that Viking said was going to be his ask... what are the odds of that? Seems like one hell of a coincidence to me.
Another thing that sticks out I forgot to mention:
"Inspector ZIG" was part of a game with ten other players, and he just so happened to be given the same name that Viking said was going to be his ask... what are the odds of that? Seems like one hell of a coincidence to me.
If the fake reveal includes a Mafia member, then 50% of the time
Another thing that sticks out I forgot to mention:
"Inspector ZIG" was part of a game with ten other players, and he just so happened to be given the same name that Viking said was going to be his ask... what are the odds of that? Seems like one hell of a coincidence to me.
If the fake reveal includes a Mafia member, then 50% of the time
There were 10 other players alive and you say it was a 50-50 chance... how?
During a fake reveal, the Mafia member will pretend to be the Inspector will accuse up to 3 players as Mafia.
Of those 3 players, if the faking Mafia wants to include one of his members in the reveal, he has 2 options to choose from as the Mafia included in the reveal, I would have 1 of those 2 names.
I'm in a piss mood because I'm working with a bunch of idiots. Look at how much more detail and information I have provided in my reveal. Look how Viking and SFA have gone missing since I exposed their fake reveal. I swear the two of you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
Post by SupeЯfuЯЯyanimal on Jul 9, 2016 20:20:46 GMT -5
I've caught up and can't tell if I'm reading Mafia or the battle of the douchebag fake inspectors.
I'd already said last night that it was likely best for the town to vote me off at some point. That's even more true now. I don't have a fucking clue what's going on but I'm still a townie. It's funny that the one person both of these guys named was the one being questioned for even suggesting the inspector could still be alive. It appears all I did was help create enough townie talk to give the mafia enough info to feel safe in knowing the real inspector is dead. Viking has talked for years about pulling a double-fake.
^^I read and respond to all the posts asking me questions. I think I have provided more information and answered exponentially more questions about my reveal than Viking. If we have 2 inspector reveals, shouldn't we be investigating both of them? It sure feels one-sided to me.
more Mafia wins. You realize you are proving my point? When the inspectors plays the way you are pointing out, the Mafia wins
I'll bite. What makes you so sure that this is the be-all end-all issue? And how does voting along with your known Mafia in Day One, and saying nothing when your alleged Fake Inspector is in an active runoff, resolve that?
kdogg mafia 70. Jimmy was my given name and I voted with him.
Also that game is a prime example of why after an inspector reveals the town shouldn't blindly follow them. I had 2 names and 1 wrong guess with day 3 reveal but was very wrong on Surf which mafia rode to the win by taking him out.
ZIG I stopped with my craziness because defending myself against my own corn eating antics never helped the down and I was in tons of runoffs. I can go back to that if you want my post count higher.
kdogg mafia 70. Jimmy was my given name and I voted with him.
Also that game is a prime example of why after an inspector reveals the town shouldn't blindly follow them. I had 2 names and 1 wrong guess with day 3 reveal but was very wrong on Surf which mafia rode to the win by taking him out.
I love how the first known example of this approach still led to a Mafia win. Thanks.
kdogg mafia 70. Jimmy was my given name and I voted with him.
Also that game is a prime example of why after an inspector reveals the town shouldn't blindly follow them. I had 2 names and 1 wrong guess with day 3 reveal but was very wrong on Surf which mafia rode to the win by taking him out.
ZIG I stopped with my craziness because defending myself against my own corn eating antics never helped the down and I was in tons of runoffs. I can go back to that if you want my post count higher.
I don't need higher post counts, I need more content. Look at the difference between your and Jaz's posts this game. You basically have said nothing, but the few posts he had he provided some detailed information.
Viking has talked for years about pulling a double-fake.
Wait... are you suggesting that Viking and ZIG are in on it together?
Can you elaborate?
I'm not suggesting it. They have to be because they are both calling my mafia and I am not.
It's a war of attrition. If they throw enough shade around they can get the third to the end. That's why I was saying it's funny this happened after our Inspector talk this morning. If I was mafia why would I even be arguing that the inspector was alive? Especially if I'm mafia with Viking(not to many all the other shit that doesn't make sense about that). Anyway, I think they got a read on all remaining townies. After nobody came forward after our extended Inspector talk, they double faked to try to get Viking out of the looming Mike D/Viking runoff. It buys them another round.
But like i've said twice now, you guys should vote me off. I understood that reality last night. The only way the townies have a shot is to try and clear some of the confusion. Nobody is going to trust me, so it's best if I'm gone. In fact, it's best if townies don't even interact with me and taint their good names. It will just cause suspicion in later rounds.
more Mafia wins. You realize you are proving my point? When the inspectors plays the way you are pointing out, the Mafia wins
I'll bite. What makes you so sure that this is the be-all end-all issue? And how does voting along with your known Mafia in Day One, and saying nothing when your alleged Fake Inspector is in an active runoff, resolve that?
You must have amnesia. You literally started pulling this information because this was your first and main reason why I had to be faking (because I voted with my Mafia given name in the final vote instead of against).
To your second point, why would i speak out during a Day 1 fake reveal? That's basically giving up and giving the Mafia the game from Day 1. By staying silent, and announcing in Day 2, I gave the town more additional confirmed roles.
I'll bite. What makes you so sure that this is the be-all end-all issue? And how does voting along with your known Mafia in Day One, and saying nothing when your alleged Fake Inspector is in an active runoff, resolve that?
You must have amnesia. You literally started pulling this information because this was your first and main reason why I had to be faking (because I voted with my Mafia given name in the final vote instead of against).
To your second point, why would i speak out during a Day 1 fake reveal? That's basically giving up and giving the Mafia the game from Day 1. By staying silent, and announcing in Day 2, I gave the town more additional confirmed roles.
You "got" one more player info plus a much less believable reveal. Explain how that is beneficial to town.