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In terms of food lineup, I think it goes like this (from best to worst):
GovBall > Meadows >>>>>>>>>>> Panorama
For me the food was the only thing worse about panorama. Oh, and I got addicted to those stupid stacked wine glasses at gov ball. Panorama just gives your a tiny plastic solo chip
I think they could've done much better if they really wanted. For one thing, Spicy Pie had no place in that festival, especially when it's New York.
For me the food was the only thing worse about panorama. Oh, and I got addicted to those stupid stacked wine glasses at gov ball. Panorama just gives your a tiny plastic solo chip
I think they could've done much better if they really wanted. For one thing, Spicy Pie had no place in that festival, especially when it's New York.
Post by Launchpad McQuack on Aug 11, 2017 11:27:08 GMT -5
It was fun. I like Bronson so I had a good time. Spoke with some of the staff; doesn't sound like Webster is ever going to reopen again in the same form it has been. Apparently the plan is to basically gut the place and turn it into a theater (like a smaller Radio City). Sounds lame.
For me the food was the only thing worse about panorama. Oh, and I got addicted to those stupid stacked wine glasses at gov ball. Panorama just gives your a tiny plastic solo chip
I think they could've done much better if they really wanted. For one thing, Spicy Pie had no place in that festival, especially when it's New York.
I will say, though, there was next to zero line most of the time at Big Mozz during Pano, whereas, during GovBall, I couldn't even catch myself a mozzarella stick at 12:30 PM on Sunday without waiting in a stupid-long line.
So, you know, it had that going for it, which was nice.
It was fun. I like Bronson so I had a good time. Spoke with some of the staff; doesn't sound like Webster is ever going to reopen again in the same form it has been. Apparently the plan is to basically gut the place and turn it into a theater (like a smaller Radio City). Sounds lame.
It was fun. I like Bronson so I had a good time. Spoke with some of the staff; doesn't sound like Webster is ever going to reopen again in the same form it has been. Apparently the plan is to basically gut the place and turn it into a theater (like a smaller Radio City). Sounds lame.
That is depressing as hell.
Definitely. AEG trying to open a theater in NYC is basically them just trying to move in on Radio City (owned by MSG) and Gramercy (owned by Live Nation).
Definitely. AEG trying to open a theater in NYC is basically them just trying to move in on Radio City (owned by MSG) and Gramercy (owned by Live Nation).
This AEG, Live Nation, and MSG feud has been pretty bad for music.
Definitely. AEG trying to open a theater in NYC is basically them just trying to move in on Radio City (owned by MSG) and Gramercy (owned by Live Nation).
If the employees are right, New Webster sounds like it'll be comparable to Hammerstein. To me this LN-MSG vs AEG thing kinda seemed like some friendly competition at first, now it's just wack as fuck
Definitely. AEG trying to open a theater in NYC is basically them just trying to move in on Radio City (owned by MSG) and Gramercy (owned by Live Nation).
If the employees are right, New Webster sounds like it'll be comparable to Hammerstein. To me this LN-MSG vs AEG thing kinda seemed like some friendly competition at first, now it's just wack as fuck
Big fish eat the little ones. Not my problem, give me some.
I also read a couple of weeks ago that there are rumors LN are going to buy Mercury Lounge and Bowery Ballroom as well. There will be more competition.
I also read a couple of weeks ago that there are rumors LN are going to buy Mercury Lounge and Bowery Ballroom as well. There will be more competition.
Yeah, as a NYC-based indie musician who plays semi-regularly at the Mercury Lounge, that news just sucks, if it ends up being true. There are still plenty of places that'll book local acts, but not a lot that offer quite the quality of experience and sound that the Merc does.
Post by Launchpad McQuack on Aug 11, 2017 14:36:18 GMT -5
Places like Mercury Lounge are how acts like The Strokes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, LCD Soundsystem, ect. ect. ect. all broke in the early/mid 2000s. Feel like the bigger companies moving in and buying up all the venues is going to limit artistic growth around these parts.
Ah well, some other city can pick up the slack till this all inevitably implodes.
I think it's also getting harder and harder for most artists to afford living in NYC. As Launchpad says, maybe another city will pick up (if not already) and become a hub for rising acts.
Post by Launchpad McQuack on Aug 11, 2017 15:38:36 GMT -5
Anyone hitting elements in the Bronx this weekend? Thinking about popping in on Sunday in the afternoon for that run of Giraff-age, Barclay Crenshaw, and Flying Lotus.
The internet is a scene within itself. I think that's taken away the opportunity and need for them to grow more organically. Our local clubs are either closing or reserving themselves for the many touring acts that come through. There's no point in catching something local when well known acts regularly play, unfortunately.
Edit: clubs like Fabric though have grown more naturally and really feels like the musical movement of this gen
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The internet is a scene within itself. I think that's taken away the opportunity and need for them to grow more organically. Our local clubs are either closing or reserving themselves for the many touring acts that come through. There's no point in catching something local when well known acts regularly play, unfortunately.
Edit: clubs like Fabric though have grown more naturally and really feels like the musical movement of this gen
The internet helps, but it doesn't cultivate the following or give the exposure that performing live does. I have a friend who has been putting material on Soundcloud for years. He started playing Webster club nights a few years back and it lead to festival gigs, getting hooked up with the right people, and now hes out in LA on someone elses dime putting something together... Just dropping a track onto the internet never would have done that for him.
Oh wait you can't see this post because I am "blocked"
Post by Launchpad McQuack on Aug 11, 2017 16:18:08 GMT -5
The internet is more like a business card than anything. If you are trying to get booked at these smaller clubs, you send your stuff to promoters in the hopes they put you on.. Just having a soundcloud or bandcamp alone isnt really going to do anything.
I think it's also getting harder and harder for most artists to afford living in NYC. As Launchpad says, maybe another city will pick up (if not already) and become a hub for rising acts.
Re: internet - it also also makes it possible for musicians to interact with listeners from all over. Now one doesn't necessarily need to move to a big population center like LA/NYC or a music city like ATX to gain noteriety. They can just stay at home. An act like Weval can stay based in Amsterdam or wherever and Bon Iver can stem from the woods. Doesn't really matter now as talent exists all over.
Definitely. AEG trying to open a theater in NYC is basically them just trying to move in on Radio City (owned by MSG) and Gramercy (owned by Live Nation).
Saw rumors of Mercury lounge and some other small ny venue getting bought and changed soon, too. Its feeling like there will only be a few companies running shows in NY soon
I also read a couple of weeks ago that there are rumors LN are going to buy Mercury Lounge and Bowery Ballroom as well. There will be more competition.
Places like Mercury Lounge are how acts like The Strokes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, LCD Soundsystem, ect. ect. ect. all broke in the early/mid 2000s. Feel like the bigger companies moving in and buying up all the venues is going to limit artistic growth around these parts.
Ah well, some other city can pick up the slack till this all inevitably implodes.
Delta spirit and Portugal the Man were teo Mercury Lounge shows I caught when those acts were early in their touring days. Highlights of concert experience for me.
Interpol used to play the Merc back in the day as well.
I think LN buying all these places sucks, but they're just buying real estate and a brand. All of these bands that "made it big" in the pre-MySpace (!!!) era had vastly different promotional tools at their disposal. Someone will find a new place and a new platform. NYC always finds a way. People waxed poetic about the Fillmore East closing. And CBGBs. Life goes on.
