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The venues are about what I was expecting. I think they might have trouble selling out MPP on a Monday, but Red Rocks and Northerly Island and stuff should sell well.
funny enough, LCD sold out two red rocks shows last year and Gorillaz are only playing one.
Post by abefroman1 on Apr 17, 2017 12:33:07 GMT -5
Red rocks usually waits until the first one sells out before adding another. I'm sure the same will happen with Gorillaz. IIRC Chance was initially scheduled for only 1 this year but they immediately added another
Red rocks usually waits until the first one sells out before adding another. I'm sure the same will happen with Gorillaz. IIRC Chance was initially scheduled for only 1 this year but they immediately added another
Red rocks usually waits until the first one sells out before adding another. I'm sure the same will happen with Gorillaz. IIRC Chance was initially scheduled for only 1 this year but they immediately added another
not really true at all.
So when Red Rocks posts "2nd show added" is that true or alternative facts? Cause they do that a lot.
I'm aware that the jam bands tend to announce 2-3 shows at once, not so much the case with alt-rock bands
Post by Fozzie Bear on Apr 17, 2017 17:20:58 GMT -5
1. Coachella did not add 56k to its attendance. I only experienced one moment of crowd clusterfuck going from Porteon to Hans Zimmer, but even that wasn't as bad as some of the congestion I've experienced at Bonnaroo. 2. Nico Jaar, Moderat, Royksopp, Richie Hawtin, Solomun, Hot Since 82, etc. had full tents. 3. I have way more to add to this convo, but going to wait to a computer to get to it.
Such consolidation brings about a related concern: uniformity. Firms within a larger institution tend to operate similarly, particularly in times of economic crisis — something sociologists call “institutional isomorphism.” In many cases, competing companies will conform to the models of their more successful counterparts in the hopes of replicating their success.
Sure enough, with only a couple of promoters organizing the biggest festivals, the same artists seem to be performing at the same ones. Twenty of the 103 performers at AEG’s Coachella this year are among the 166 acts playing at Live Nation’s Bonnaroo. That means that one-tenth of Bonnaroo’s lineup and one-fifth of Coachella’s lineup are exactly the same. Consolidation and uncertainty beget monotony.
Though they are not necessarily problems individually, the combination of commercialization, consolidation and uniformity just might be bringing about what Seattle’s alt-weekly, the Stranger, called “festival fatigue.”
If fatigue does arrive in 2017, we can look to the last crisis for some solutions. The 2008 recession dampened ticket sales and sponsorships. Festivals like Denver’s Mile High festival, Las Vegas’s Vegoose and New Jersey’s Bamboozle shuttered. But my research found the Newport Folk Festival to be an encouraging case study.
In 2008, Newport couldn’t attract a marquee corporate sponsorship as it had in the past. To save the event, producers restructured the organization into a nonprofit. Ever since then, their lineups have eschewed acts that headline larger festivals. Instead, they’ve set their sights on balancing a diversity of acts with regional performers.
Bonnaroo and Coachella dwarf Newport in size, as Newport’s venue, Fort Adams State Park, can hold only around 10,000 attendees per day. But Newport’s limited brand sponsorships and attendance cap are opportunities, not challenges. The festival’s producer, Jay Sweet, knows he can’t afford the bigger acts that hit the larger festivals.
Nonetheless, Newport has carved out its own niche: Moving away from an overly corporate and commercialized model of the contemporary festival, it now offers an eclectic, more locally sourced and modestly branded music experience.
In a way, it’s what festivals looked like in their earliest iterations — before the sponsors descended, and before the fatigue settled in.
Small regional fest, but Buffalove canceled their 2017 fest that was to be headlined by Electron, Boombox, Giant Panda, Heroburst, American Babies, Pink Talking Fish, etc. in July at a new, better location. Full refunds within 90 days. Rumors that bands haven't been paid since last year still. These smaller Northeast fests keep dropping (RIP Catskill CHill).
In terms of bigger fests, I wouldn't have guessed Pemberton would fold. Pretty terrible stories coming out on it, too. I know Sasquatch has had its troubles in the region.
So after FYF and Panorama, Sun City Music Festival joins the list because the organisation canceled the 2018 edition though said they'd hope to return in 2019.
Dear Sun City Music Festival family, supporters, and partners,
Each year, the Disco and SMG teams work diligently to ensure every single time you enter the gates of Sun City Music Festival, the best possible experience awaits you. Throughout the calendar year, the SCMF team works extremely hard to meet this momentous task with rigorous standards in place.
Unfortunately, we don’t believe that goal can be accomplished in 2018. As a result, we’re sad to say Sun City Music Festival will not be held this Labor Day Weekend. We apologize the announcement took so long, but we wanted to make sure we had exhausted all the options to make SCMF possible.
On behalf of the entire SCMF family, we hope to return in 2019 and greatly appreciate all of your support over the past years. Thanks for the memories that will last a lifetime!
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With how little to no jam Mountain Jam has on their lineup, I could see that going away. Or at least a name change.
The name is probably fine to stay...but if they are going to commit to a shift to a more mainstream Alt-Rock/Folk lineup, then they need to move it up or back a weekend. Does them no good to be on the same weekend as Firefly (and Father's Day) when they are targeting a lot of the same Northeast audience.
With how little to no jam Mountain Jam has on their lineup, I could see that going away. Or at least a name change.
The name is probably fine to stay...but if they are going to commit to a shift to a more mainstream Alt-Rock/Folk lineup, then they need to move it up or back a weekend. Does them no good to be on the same weekend as Firefly (and Father's Day) when they are targeting a lot of the same Northeast audience.
And make sure to book strong headliners. No jack Johnson.
With how little to no jam Mountain Jam has on their lineup, I could see that going away. Or at least a name change.
CalJam somehow makes it work without any jam on their lineup. This comment is so tired.
I feel like it has less to do with the wording and more with the past demographic. It used to be Jam band based and is now rock/alt based.
CalJam could be called anything really since it is curated by the Foos and will draw attention. They could called it "Rock Church" and probably get away with no gospel themed music.
CalJam somehow makes it work without any jam on their lineup. This comment is so tired.
I feel like it has less to do with the wording and more with the past demographic. It used to be Jam band based and is now rock/alt based.
CalJam could be called anything really since it is curated by the Foos and will draw attention. They could called it "Rock Church" and probably get away with no gospel themed music.
True true.
I think the Mountain Jam shift hasn't been as precipitous as some say. Since we've been going it's been less and less jam after Thursday. When Thursday got cancelled, bye bye Jam.
I feel like it has less to do with the wording and more with the past demographic. It used to be Jam band based and is now rock/alt based.
CalJam could be called anything really since it is curated by the Foos and will draw attention. They could called it "Rock Church" and probably get away with no gospel themed music.
True true.
I think the Mountain Jam shift hasn't been as precipitous as some say. Since we've been going it's been less and less jam after Thursday. When Thursday got cancelled, bye bye Jam.
Was there just lack of jam fans going? With an inaugural jam fest starting here in Austin (Waterloo Fest) in really wondering how it'll do. 3 Nights of SCI sold out here before at a local amphitheater several years ago so I'm guess it should do well.
I think the Mountain Jam shift hasn't been as precipitous as some say. Since we've been going it's been less and less jam after Thursday. When Thursday got cancelled, bye bye Jam.
Was there just lack of jam fans going? With an inaugural jam fest starting here in Austin (Waterloo Fest) in really wondering how it'll do. 3 Nights of SCI sold out here before at a local amphitheater several years ago so I'm guess it should do well.
I think there were a bunch of old Heads and Allman Bros fans that were going for Warren and not much else. I definitely thought the shift last year to less jam than ever before (and no Warren) would lead to smaller crowds last year. I was totally wrong and it was more crowded last year than I've ever seen it.
