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For modern day audiences, if the performers are over 40 you could consider them an old act.
Only if you define "modern day audiences" as millennials.
At many of the shows I attend, there's a very diverse age range. I'm hardly the only over-50 person in the audience, and that's not only for "old" performers, but also younger performers who embrace old school genres. If you've ever been to a Dawes, Hozier, or The Lemon Twigs show, you know what I'm talking about.
For modern day audiences, if the performers are over 40 you could consider them an old act.
Only if you define "modern day audiences" as millennials.
At many of the shows I attend, there's a very diverse age range. I'm hardly the only over-50 person in the audience, and that's not only for "old" performers, but also younger performers who embrace old school genres. If you've ever been to a Dawes, Hozier, or The Lemon Twigs show, you know what I'm talking about.
I'm referring in particular to modern day music festival audiences. Obviously this sounds a bit ageist, but I don't mean to disparage anybody.
Only if you define "modern day audiences" as millennials.
At many of the shows I attend, there's a very diverse age range. I'm hardly the only over-50 person in the audience, and that's not only for "old" performers, but also younger performers who embrace old school genres. If you've ever been to a Dawes, Hozier, or The Lemon Twigs show, you know what I'm talking about.
I'm referring in particular to modern day music festival audiences. Obviously this sounds a bit ageist, but I don't mean to disparage anybody.
Haven't the bigger festivals always embraced older performers who may have older audiences? Haven't acts like Springsteen, Elton John, Metallica, Jimmy Buffett, Lionel Richie, and Madonna all headlined Bonnaroo or Lollapalooza?
I'm referring in particular to modern day music festival audiences. Obviously this sounds a bit ageist, but I don't mean to disparage anybody.
Haven't the bigger festivals always embraced older performers who may have older audiences? Haven't acts like Springsteen, Elton John, Metallica, Jimmy Buffett, Lionel Richie, and Madonna all headlined Bonnaroo or Lollapalooza?
I never said they wouldn't book them. Me calling Bjork/QOTSA/The National "old" in no way was meant to imply that they're bad or that younger people, myself included, wouldn't be interested in seeing all of them. I was just saying that they all fill a fairly similar role on a lineup so booking all three wouldn't quite fill BC's musical diversity quota
Haven't the bigger festivals always embraced older performers who may have older audiences? Haven't acts like Springsteen, Elton John, Metallica, Jimmy Buffett, Lionel Richie, and Madonna all headlined Bonnaroo or Lollapalooza?
I never said they wouldn't book them. Me calling Bjork/QOTSA/The National "old" in no way was meant to imply that they're bad or that younger people, myself included, wouldn't be interested in seeing all of them. I was just saying that they all fill a fairly similar role on a lineup so booking all three wouldn't quite fill BC's musical diversity quota
I can appreciate your point about not wanting to book artists that fill similar roles, although I think that speaks more to genre than vintage. I can see not booking both QOTSA and Arctic Monkeys for that reason, or not booking both Dawes and Ryan Adams.
I never said they wouldn't book them. Me calling Bjork/QOTSA/The National "old" in no way was meant to imply that they're bad or that younger people, myself included, wouldn't be interested in seeing all of them. I was just saying that they all fill a fairly similar role on a lineup so booking all three wouldn't quite fill BC's musical diversity quota
I can appreciate your point about not wanting to book artists that fill similar roles, although I think that speaks more to genre than vintage. I can see not booking both QOTSA and Arctic Monkeys for that reason, or not booking both Dawes and Ryan Adams.
Dawes and Ryan Adams is fine because they'd be relatively separated on the lineup. But I wouldn't want to subject Ryan to that
I can appreciate your point about not wanting to book artists that fill similar roles, although I think that speaks more to genre than vintage. I can see not booking both QOTSA and Arctic Monkeys for that reason, or not booking both Dawes and Ryan Adams.
Dawes and Ryan Adams is fine because they'd be relatively separated on the lineup. But I wouldn't want to subject Ryan to that
They'd almost have to be booked on different days. (Didn't TG and RA both play Newport a couple of years ago? It was either the year Dawes was the backing band for the Dylan tribute, or Middle Brother was performing. I remember checking out the schedule and noticing that they weren't there on the same day.)
This Is The Kit might be in for this. Cool singer-songwriter/folk group from England that opened some dates for The National recently. Just announced Philly and DC shows the Sat/Sun of BC, so I could see them playing Friday.
I know Phoenix is going to be in Europe in June and July but is there any reason why they wouldn't be headlining BC? Especially as they didn't have a proper Boston show last time around.
I know Phoenix is going to be in Europe in June and July but is there any reason why they wouldn't be headlining BC? Especially as they didn't have a proper Boston show last time around.
Playing London on the Friday, plus they already have other festivals in Mid-June. Highly unlikely, I'd say.
I know Phoenix is going to be in Europe in June and July but is there any reason why they wouldn't be headlining BC? Especially as they didn't have a proper Boston show last time around.
Playing London on the Friday, plus they already have other festivals in Mid-June. Highly unlikely, I'd say.
That's too bad I always feel like they are the perfect sized headliner for this.
I know Phoenix is going to be in Europe in June and July but is there any reason why they wouldn't be headlining BC? Especially as they didn't have a proper Boston show last time around.
I doubt that Boston Calling would be doubling ticket prices to go with less prestigious headliners than they had last year.
Phoenix, QOTSA, even Arcade Fire (after playing to a half-empty house at the Garden) aren't first or second billed headliners at what Boston Calling now is. Third, maybe, with strong counterprogramming on the Blue Stage. They all would have been perfectly fine headliners at City Hall Plaza, but remind yourself that NBA arena headliners Tool and Mumford & Sons were the top two headliners in 2017 and make your top line predictions accordingly.
Can we point out how David Byrne will be active next year (at least in South America..) and in the Q+A session Aaron Dessner had on BC's twitter account earlier this year, someone asked if they's ever try to get David Byrne and Aaron replied by saying "We have tired and we will continue to" or something to that effect?
I didn't know they'd said that and that would be fucking great. I don't even know what his solo shows are like. Doesn't matter, the man is a national treasure
It took him a while to become a great live frontman. I saw Talking Heads on the Fear Of Music tour and, at that stage in their evolution, they were a "stand there and play and sound exactly like the album" band. So, a few years later when I had a number of chances to see them on the Stop Making Sense tour, I didn't go because I remembered them as an unspectacular live act. Then, of course, I saw the Demme concert film and kicked myself for missing the tour.
I know Phoenix is going to be in Europe in June and July but is there any reason why they wouldn't be headlining BC? Especially as they didn't have a proper Boston show last time around.
I doubt that Boston Calling would be doubling ticket prices to go with less prestigious headliners than they had last year.
Phoenix, QOTSA, even Arcade Fire (after playing to a half-empty house at the Garden) aren't first or second billed headliners at what Boston Calling now is. Third, maybe, with strong counterprogramming on the Blue Stage. They all would have been perfectly fine headliners at City Hall Plaza, but remind yourself that NBA arena headliners Tool and Mumford & Sons were the top two headliners in 2017 and make your top line predictions accordingly.
My best hope/dream for what we could get. Would probably put them as a major contender for top-line of the year.
Pearl Jam/Depeche Mode • Kendrick • Arcade Fire/Frank Ocean/Jack White
Or like...Radiohead would be cool, but that seems pretty unlikely.
This doesn't mesh with the Crash Line guy telling a UMass classroom that they've got someone who's "10 times bigger" than anyone they've booked before. Depeche Mode would be great, but I can't imagine them higher than #2, after that comment. The Pearl Jam/Metallica/Eminem speculation for the #1 spot more closely lines up with that comment. Ocean would be no higher than #3 at Boston Calling.
I doubt that Boston Calling would be doubling ticket prices to go with less prestigious headliners than they had last year.
Phoenix, QOTSA, even Arcade Fire (after playing to a half-empty house at the Garden) aren't first or second billed headliners at what Boston Calling now is. Third, maybe, with strong counterprogramming on the Blue Stage. They all would have been perfectly fine headliners at City Hall Plaza, but remind yourself that NBA arena headliners Tool and Mumford & Sons were the top two headliners in 2017 and make your top line predictions accordingly.
My best hope/dream for what we could get. Would probably put them as a major contender for top-line of the year.
Pearl Jam/Depeche Mode • Kendrick • Arcade Fire/Frank Ocean/Jack White
Or like...Radiohead would be cool, but that seems pretty unlikely.
I would be happy with any of the variations on that top line (unless there's some surprise reunion in the works of one bunch of Mancunians or another, which we don't yet know about. Hope springs infernal.)
I've never been a huge Jack White fan, but the album preview video sounds incredible, like 80's Tom Waits jamming with 70's Funkadelic at a jazz club.
Here's another reason to expect a stacked lineup, and it has everything to do with the future of Suffolk Downs.
Boston is one of the cities which has been pitching itself as the ideal location for Amazon's HQ2. Amazon is taking a very broad look at each competing city, wanting to provide its employees with a metropolitan area which is second to none in every category, including the arts & entertainment. The decision is expected early next year, and while the Boston Calling lineup is only one component of however they rate the arts & entertainment scene, big cities are expected to have big music festivals in 2018, so a stacked lineup doesn't hurt.
Crash Line is also a big winner if Boston lands Amazon HQ2. Suffolk Downs, the proposed site for Amazon HQ2, was the site of music festivals before the current music festival boom was even a thing. I went to the Guinness Fleadh there in '98 or '99, which used only around 30% - 40% of the grounds and still had 30K capacity. If anyone wanted to come in and play Panorama to BC's Gov Ball, *that's* exactly where they'd hold their event. Making sure that Suffolk Downs is committed to another use helps to prevent any strong challenge to Crash Line's local festival supremacy. So, a stronger-than-usual lineup in every regard shouldn't come as a huge surprise, if that's what we end up getting.
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