ACL 2018 - THE END

What is this, Bonnaroo?

Never took anatomy, but I don't think this checks out.

I thought the crowd was the same but there are now more channels to notch about it. I also veered away from highly volatile acts like Travis Scott and apparently Lil Wayne and whatever EDM is popular w the early 20s. Nelly looked packed.

Where do I buy see through pants?

I'm guessing wal mart and hot topic

in other news, it's fucking cold in texas now. buncha shit i say.

The Boss . Tool . Frank Ocean . The Raconteurs . Disclosure . Anderson Paak

Get out of my brain.

Rihanna would be a sneaky great booking too. 

The Who doesn’t like to play outside U.S. festivals. That was in the news here before they played in the year they played Jazz Fest. Daltrey even mentioned the straw/hay/horse track aspects while they were playing. I still thought they were great anyway and would love to see them close a night of ACL. I don’t much care for the 1975, but I’d probably give them a fairer listen if they were going to play. Childish is a ? as to whether he will even be performing then anymore. It’s wide open as to who else might headline, but I also agree that most likely there would be at least 3-4 repeats even if those performers maybe hadn’t all headlined it yet.

Also, without Launchpad starting next year threads, someone needs to get on the ball. Early Bird tickets last year were released on November 5 so that’s coming up the weekend after Voodoo or that next Monday.

^^^edit to say I quoted you MD, but was responding to some earlier posts.

Idk how unreasonable Bruce - Ri - Tool would be but that would be ill

I'll tell my Phoenix story now.

Some background: I was dating a girl in 2014. I met her through Maddog and his girlfriend. The two women went to college together. We went to Roo that year, my first and her only time. Really awesome time. Some of the best days of my life thus far. She was a really great girl and everything, but we didn't see eye-to-eye on certain things.

Later that year, she went to ACL and I stayed home. While she was at ACL, she sent me a snap of a couple with a kid or two in tow at ACL. She captioned it saying something like "One day. So much this." These kids were like four at the oldest. Really young.

Things had been going on for long enough (maybe eight months) that it should have been getting serious, I guess, but we were still pretty casual. Anyway, I thought about not saying anything, but I felt like I should be honest about my feelings on this. I texted her saying, essentially, "yeah, I don't really think that's cool. I think that's all about the parents' vanity and I think an environment like a music festival isn't really good for a kid." At best, imo, it's just boring for the kid. At worst, there's a bunch of people drinking, smoking, getting high on whatever. It's usually really hot, there are loud noises, and just, yeah, it's not fun for them. I don't care how fucking cool you think your toddler is, he doesn't care about David Byrne or whatever.

So this year, I started coming around on that. I was thinking "hey, you know, it's just a day in the park. Family time. Whatever. Who cares?"

Until Phoenix.

First of all, I accidentally blew smoke right in the direction of this kid in front of us. Obviously not cool, and I should have been paying more attention. After that, we moved up to an area where everyone was a reasonable age, except that about twenty or thirty feet in front of us there were these two kids, about six or seven, playing football with some guys. In the middle of the fucking crowd.

Basically, these guys were throwing this football up in the air and the boys were fielding it like a punt, with zero regard for the other people around them trying to, you know, enjoy a fucking concert. These kids were like wrestling each other for the ball and rolling around on the ground. A good bit of space was cleared out around them, but one guy and a couple girls who seemed to be together were just trying to ignore them. Finally, at the end of 1901, basically the end of the show, one of the older guys (late twenties/early thirties) kinda bumps into the guy who is just trying to ignore them and the victim says something. Whatever it was, it looked like "hey man, you all have just been bumping into us relentlessly for the past fifteen minutes. This is ridiculous. We're trying to enjoy the show." The other guy does namaste prayer hands, apologizes a bunch, and says bye to the kids. These weren't even his kids. Kids go back to their parents or whomever they're actually there with.

Point being, don't take your prepubescent kids to a fucking music festival and have them play football with strange men. Stay home, or hire a sitter, and try to spend actual time playing catch with your kids or something that they will actually enjoy. Like, am I crazy? I think that's bad parenting.

I don’t disagree that some people don’t have appropriate regard or oversight. Otherwise I’d disagree almost completely. Obviously it depends on the children, and that’s the most crucial thing. But if you like seeing music, you should probably expose your kids. It doesn’t just have to be Disney on ice or the muppets. If you like the mountains, you take them there when they are young. If you like the beach or fishing, thrill rides, kayaking, horseback riding or biking or anything reasonable, you might as well get your people into it because that’s some of what you’re going to do as a family. Maybe they get into it too. I waited until my kids were teenagers before taking them to concerts, but they live that life more than I do. And I’ve probably seen more than 100 acts so far this year. They grow from what they experience. I mean shit, I was like 4 when my parents brought us to see Peter Paul and Mary and it was formative for me. You never know where bonds will take you together, so I can’t go along with just the vanity side or the indifferent parent as the only sides of it. Best advice I can give anyone is take your kids to do anything you like to do. They won’t forget or forget about you. But for sure, if you aren’t going to somewhat supervise young ones, it’s probably not the best idea

What you’re describing sounds like questionable parenting, but it doesn’t seem like proof that kids at festivals is a bad thing overall. As long as they’ve got ear protection and they’re not in a pit, I don’t see the problem. Like you said though, when they’re that young they probably don’t wanna be there anyway. But not all kids are the same. I’m all for sharing cool moments with your kids while you still have time together. Life is short.

Edit: literal infants/toddlers might be a bit much.