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I'm feeling pretty good about Hozier closing Blue with Andy on Green. Just because Paak on blue would probably also conflict with ODESZA, which seems like a weird move when you could put Hozier there
The more I hear of .Paak, the more I like what I hear. But Hozier is one of my top dozen favorites among currently recording/touring artists, and I don't want to risk missing a minute of his set by being at the wrong end of the grounds before he's on.
Honestly, Hozier should be the Saturday headliner with .Paak as Red Stage subheadliner, with Tame Impala and Odesza the last two acts on Blue.
Spotify stats:
Hozier - over 15.5 million monthly listeners
Tame Impala - around 7.8 million
Anderson .Paak - over 6.2 million
Odesza - over 4.7 million
Those numbers speak to what should be the Saturday pecking order on the poster.
I remember watching the ACL stream on my phone last time Hozier played BC
So, you don't dig his music. A lot of people do.
It's not too late for Boston Calling to shuffle the running order to reflect the popularity of top four billed Saturday acts, just like they did in fall 2014. Remember, Lorde was originally billed above Childish Gambino, and The Replacements were billed above Nas X The Roots, but that's not how things played out in the actual schedule.
I remember watching the ACL stream on my phone last time Hozier played BC
So, you don't dig his music. A lot of people do.
It's not too late for Boston Calling to shuffle the running order to reflect the popularity of top four billed Saturday acts, just like they did in fall 2014. Remember, Lorde was originally billed above Childish Gambino, and The Replacements were billed above Nas X The Roots, but that's not how things played out in the actual schedule.
Hozier might be a little more popular overall, but within BC's main demographic Tame Impala and ODESZA are definitely bigger, more relevant names and the billing is 100% correct
Had Boston Calling known that Diplo's Mad Decent would be coming to the area, providing a much more attractive lineup for dance/electronic fans (and a couple of big rap draws), do you think they would have make some different booking choices (i.e., more rock & roll, more and twangier Americana, a few acts which existed before 2000)?
I can't help but think that a lot of people who enjoy dance/pop/rap/EDM who were considering Boston Calling but hadn't yet bought their tickets are going to go to Mad Decent instead.
It's not too late for Boston Calling to shuffle the running order to reflect the popularity of top four billed Saturday acts, just like they did in fall 2014. Remember, Lorde was originally billed above Childish Gambino, and The Replacements were billed above Nas X The Roots, but that's not how things played out in the actual schedule.
Hozier might be a little more popular overall, but within BC's main demographic Tame Impala and ODESZA are definitely bigger, more relevant names and the billing is 100% correct
BC's main demographic is people who live in the greater Boston area who buy tickets to their events, and that morphs from year to year, depending upon whom they've booked.
They care about selling tickets, above all else. And when you're a big city festival, you can move a lot of one-day passes to people who like the headliner that day. A lot of one-day passes sold in the last couple of years to Mumford, Tool, and Eminem fans.
If you think that Odesza or even Tame Impala are bigger draws in Boston than Hozier, a city whose Irish ex-pat population made Hozier shows sell out in Boston long before they sold out elsewhere, you're sadly mistaken.
It's not too late for Boston Calling to shuffle the running order to reflect the popularity of top four billed Saturday acts, just like they did in fall 2014. Remember, Lorde was originally billed above Childish Gambino, and The Replacements were billed above Nas X The Roots, but that's not how things played out in the actual schedule.
Hozier might be a little more popular overall, but within BC's main demographic Tame Impala and ODESZA are definitely bigger, more relevant names and the billing is 100% correct
A *little* more popular? Check out the above-posted Spotify numbers. Hozier's plays are nearly 2X Tame Impala and nearly 4X Odesza.
Hozier might be a little more popular overall, but within BC's main demographic Tame Impala and ODESZA are definitely bigger, more relevant names and the billing is 100% correct
A *little* more popular? Check out the above-posted Spotify numbers. Hozier's plays are nearly 2X Tame Impala and nearly 4X Odesza.
Hozier might be a little more popular overall, but within BC's main demographic Tame Impala and ODESZA are definitely bigger, more relevant names and the billing is 100% correct
A *little* more popular? Check out the above-posted Spotify numbers. Hozier's plays are nearly 2X Tame Impala and nearly 4X Odesza.
The number of Spotify listeners is not a gauge of a band's draw, whatsoever. By your estimation Hozier is significantly more popular than Radiohead (9.4 million monthly listeners). Hozier is a one hit wonder, if I'm not mistaken.
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A *little* more popular? Check out the above-posted Spotify numbers. Hozier's plays are nearly 2X Tame Impala and nearly 4X Odesza.
The number of Spotify listeners is not a gauge of a band's draw, whatsoever. By your estimation Hozier is significantly more popular than Radiohead (9.4 million monthly listeners). Hozier is a one hit wonder, if I'm not mistaken.
Precisely. J Balvin has a song with 2.3 billion views on youtube but he isn't headlining anywhere except Lolla(Even then he's #8)
A *little* more popular? Check out the above-posted Spotify numbers. Hozier's plays are nearly 2X Tame Impala and nearly 4X Odesza.
The number of Spotify listeners is not a gauge of a band's draw, whatsoever. By your estimation Hozier is significantly more popular than Radiohead (9.4 million monthly listeners). Hozier is a one hit wonder, if I'm not mistaken.
Radiohead didn't license their music to Spotify until 2016, so it's not a good barometer of their popularity. The fact that they haven't been racking up Spotify plays prior to that time throws off any monthly average, in the case of this particular band.
Hopefully bad enough to give them a wake up call to book better acts next year but not bad enough to kill the fest or force it to take a gap year.
Fortunately, the festival is owned by a company with very deep pockets and a corporate head with a history of throwing good money after bad, at least as far as his sports properties are concerned. He's got a billionaire-sized ego (When a fan at a Knicks game told him to sell the team, he banned that fan from the building for life) and wants to be perceived as a winner. His ego won't let *his* music festival go under.
The number of Spotify listeners is not a gauge of a band's draw, whatsoever. By your estimation Hozier is significantly more popular than Radiohead (9.4 million monthly listeners). Hozier is a one hit wonder, if I'm not mistaken.
Precisely. J Balvin has a song with 2.3 billion views on youtube but he isn't headlining anywhere except Lolla(Even then he's #8)
Spotify monthly listener numbers are a better measurement of fanbase size than YouTube plays, because each Spotify user counts only once in the number, while YouTube plays count multiple plays by a single viewer multiple times.
The Spotify number takes all songs and albums into consideration.
Precisely. J Balvin has a song with 2.3 billion views on youtube but he isn't headlining anywhere except Lolla(Even then he's #8)
Spotify monthly listener numbers are a better measurement of fanbase size than YouTube plays, because each Spotify user counts only once in the number, while YouTube plays count multiple plays by a single viewer multiple times.
The Spotify number takes all songs and albums into consideration.
Even with that said, he's the 2nd most streamed artist on Spotify at the moment. I think billing mostly depends on the artists fanbase size, longevity, spectacle, and average venue size/shows sold out. Could be wrong though. I'm not super knowledgeable about billing. Just picked up stuff after browsing this forum for a while.
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Post by Hector Salamanca on Apr 8, 2019 12:30:25 GMT -5
Hozier's Spotify numbers are absolutely inflated by Take Me To Church. I thought we were against one-hit wonders getting high billing? Can someone catch me up?
Something tells me Black Star isn't getting replaced.
I wonder how bad this is really selling
We can do a test. Currently, 3-day VIP passes are $700 inc fees & shipping, are there any takers for my VIP pass at $475? (This time last year VIP was already sold out).
I remember watching the ACL stream on my phone last time Hozier played BC
So, you don't dig his music. A lot of people do.
It's not too late for Boston Calling to shuffle the running order to reflect the popularity of top four billed Saturday acts, just like they did in fall 2014. Remember, Lorde was originally billed above Childish Gambino, and The Replacements were billed above Nas X The Roots, but that's not how things played out in the actual schedule.
Hozier was surprisingly good at Boston Calling 2015.
But wouldn't the festival already be sold out by now if he was so popular among the local Irish-Americans?
Maybe people see him buried on the poster and figure he's only getting 45 minutes. If he was headlining, that would influence purchases to a greater degree.
In any event, he could be responsible for moving a healthy number of one-day passes, but any one act, even a headliner, isn't going to inspire people to buy three-day passes.
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CHVRCHES added as a replacement for Janelle Monae, Bear Hands apparently the replacement for Black Star, and Snakehips is doing a 2nd set on Saturday to replace Sasha Sloan
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CHVRCHES added as a replacement for Janelle Monae, Bear Hands apparently the replacement for Black Star, and Snakehips is doing a 2nd set on Saturday to replace Sasha Sloan
The Janelle Monae and Black Star cancellations have eliminated the FOMO I was feeling about going on Saturday only.
CHVRCHES added as a replacement for Janelle Monae, Bear Hands apparently the replacement for Black Star, and Snakehips is doing a 2nd set on Saturday to replace Sasha Sloan
The Janelle Monae and Black Star cancellations have eliminated the FOMO I was feeling about going on Saturday only.
My sympathies to the rest of y'all, though.
Yeah I'm pretty pissed about this. Moreso Black Star's replacement though, no fan overlap whatsoever. I enjoy Chvrches almost as much as Janelle Monae so it isn't a total loss for me at least.
