Whether it's your first Bonnaroo or you’re a music festival veteran, we welcome you to Inforoo.
Here you'll find info about artists, rumors, camping tips, and the infamous Roo Clues. Have a look around then create an account and join in the fun. See you at Bonnaroo!!
A lot of contenders, depending on who is dropping on album. Chance the Rapper, Frank Ocean, etc. if they drop Rihanna, Madonna are dropping an album, but I'm still iffy on Rihanna ever headlining, since she seems to prefer being a festival goer instead of performing. And of course the, assumed, reserved spot for JT. Would Coachella bother with Kanye again? I'm sure his demands would still be the same on the whole stage thing. If we ever get that new SOAD album..
Rihanna seems like the next logical choice after JT IMO.
Rihanna is the most logical choice out of any potential headliner, really. She "should" be the most surefire headliner. But I think she's said in the past that she enjoys being a festival goer so much that she rather do that than bother performing. But who knows, money talks and maybe she'll do it just to get her one time over with.
My understanding is that Rihanna hates performing (and it shows frankly, she doesn't come close to matching the energy of her videos/tracks on stage) and her label pretty much strong armed her to doing the ANTI tour. I don't see her jumping to do any big one-offs (Coachella, Superbowl, etc) at this point. Think she's happier taking drugs and going to the Met Ball.
I saw Rih perform at Coachella in 2016. I wouldn’t count it out at all
You mean her walking around and half assedly singing over the full track she did with Calvin Harris? I think that showing was evidence to the fact she would rather be in the crowd. If that's her "performing" Coachella would be better off saving their money.
I saw Rih perform at Coachella in 2016. I wouldn’t count it out at all
A guest appearance at a festival she was already attending with virtually no prep work needed is way different than creating/rehearsing/assembling a one-off show to the degree Beyonce or Lady Gaga did. The only way I can see Rihanna doing Coachella is if it is in the middle/right before a tour her label forces her to do for her next album. And reports were she fought tooth and nail about even touring ANTI at all. I put the likelihood of Rihanna doing a Beyonce/Gaga type one-off show for Coachella that would require her to rehearse for months at about 5% and that's being generous. And I think the same thing about the Superbowl, other festivals, etc. She's just not interested in performing at this time and if you've seen concert footage of her, it really shows. She's completely wooden and disinterested and sort of slowly walks from side to side of the stage. She hates being up there and it shows.
She's a great fit on paper but the live product is not great and she's not really motivated to do it, so I don't think it's nearly as inevitable as some are saying. She does have an album (allegedly) coming in 2019 so if the tour is ready to go and her label forces her to do it, then maybe. But with regards to her album, keep in mind that work on ANTI (or what turned into ANTI) was underway in 2014, she released two singles in Jan-March 2015, but the album itself didn't come out until early 2016 and she scrapped the previous singles, and then the tour in March 2016. So an album coming out in 2019 isn't even really a guarantee.
EDIT: And it's a "reggae" album which could be innovative and sublime, or it could be a hot mess. Not that that stopped them from jumping into bed with Justin after a tanked album, or into bed with Kanye with increasingly erratic/declining quality of music.
With regards to headliners, the situation seemed dire for even the biggest festivals this year and I expect that trend to continue. We're just not producing headliners like we used to since music moves so quickly. Acts get huge so quick and fade off quicker.
Frank Ocean and Chance the Rapper seem like prime contenders if the next albums are big and/or critical darlings. I don't know if JT gets another "hold" for the third year running. That'll be years past an album nobody liked. The two contemporary rock bands that could presumably headline (Tame and 1975) are both here this year. While it would likely mark the end of my Coachella career if it happened as I'd throw in the towel and admit that it's just time to move on, Post Malone and Migos cannot be counted out. Post is already headlining, Migos could do so as well after next album. For the female pop stars, Ari and Rihanna are the two I could see Coach springing for, Ari's here now (accidentally but perfectly timed) and like I said above, I have doubts about Rih.
As for classic rock, think we've seen the end of that era. No need for them to repeat Macca (I'd love it but just don't see it happening), if Stones was to happen it would have been this year, ditto Fleetwood Mac, I don't really see too many more options. But could see Coachella pivoting to the "new" classic rock of big 90s bands, I firmly believe they'd spend a lot on an Oasis reunion, Green Day, etc. SOAD I doubt is ever a headliner but could be a great sub.
I don't see VW making it to headliner, as others have mentioned the Bowl show not sold out. I think they'll be there per the insider info (the rest of it she was right on about) but as a sub.
I also think EDM headliners are DOA. Calvin wasn't exactly a hit and most of the other big DJs seem fairly stalled at #3-#5 range second liners. Think the starpower of the DJ is cooling off a bit. ODESZA and Rufus probably could headline given a few more years though, that seems to be the type of electronic act that has legs right now.
Kanye burned Coachella and I could see them trying again because it'll be enormous if it ever happens, but given the current state of YANDHI and his mental state, I can easily see a tour or album not happening for years.
Frank/Chance Migos/Post wildcard (Oasis, Kanye, or something quite lame)
That doesn't look great to me but is about what I'm expecting quality and starpower wise.
Who I think are possible Pop: Adele (who I want, bad), JT, Madonna, Rihanna (unlikely) R&B: Frank Ocean is the only one who I think can headline right now. He doesn't need a new album to do it either. But would be amazing to have one. Rap: Chance (with a successful new album, or else he's a sub), J Cole, Kanye (Unlikely due to this year's fiasco), Travis Scott (It's def possible that he will have a new album out by April 2020) Rock: Coldplay (hasn't played since 2005), SOAD (Fringe headliner but possible, if we ever get the rumored album then it's for sure), Oasis, Greenday, Mumford(???) EDM: Not sure... maybe SHM? Not sure.
I don't fully believe the "Rihanna would rather be in the crowd than perform" stuff, guys. If GV offers her $5m and whatever the hell she wants to do with the stage next year, I couldn't imagine she'd say "nah, I just don't enjoy performing."
My pure guess for next year is Rihanna, Chance, and The Black Keys.
Rihanna with an album out later this year and opening her spring tour next year at Coachella makes perfect sense. I don't think they'd wait another year for JT, at this point just get him on the next album cycle if you want him so bad. With Chance's album out in July, it makes sense that he tours in the summer/fall then finishes with some spring festivals next year. Black Keys are essentially classic rock to the Coachella demographic now and seem to be the one "modern day rock headliner" who will have *some* level of excitement to them outside of the ubiquity/continuous declines of a Killers or Muse or something. I'll keep wishing for Frank, but I'll believe it when I see it.
I don't fully believe the "Rihanna would rather be in the crowd than perform" stuff, guys. If GV offers her $5m and whatever the hell she wants to do with the stage next year, I couldn't imagine she'd say "nah, I just don't enjoy performing."
My pure guess for next year is Rihanna, Chance, and The Black Keys.
Rihanna with an album out later this year and opening her spring tour next year at Coachella makes perfect sense. I don't think they'd wait another year for JT, at this point just get him on the next album cycle if you want him so bad. With Chance's album out in July, it makes sense that he tours in the summer/fall then finishes with some spring festivals next year. Black Keys are essentially classic rock to the Coachella demographic now and seem to be the one "modern day rock headliner" who will have *some* level of excitement to them outside of the ubiquity/continuous declines of a Killers or Muse or something. I'll keep wishing for Frank, but I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm not saying she can't or won't do it. It's a ton of money and I agree it would make sense for her too at the beginning or the end of a tour. If she already has a show going around why not take a pay day.
Also, I'm betting she's been offered the chance before.
If GV offers her $5m and whatever the hell she wants to do with the stage next year,
Industry rumors are that what she wants to do with the stage is stay off it entirely.
If her label forces her to tour the next album like allegedly they did with ANTI, then yes I can see Coachella happening as part of that tour. But the story was that she didn't want to do any of it and I can't imagine that really changes for the next one.
If the tour is not ready yet, I just don't see her springing to do a one-off. The festivals she did in 2016 were ones that perfectly coincided with ANTI tour. She's turned down the Super Bowl for the last several years, which while allegedly politically motivated is another big one-off performance that requires extra rehearsals and one that all our pop headliners (Justin, Beyonce, Gaga) have all shown willingness to do and is a pretty good signal if a performer would accept a giant paycheck for a production/rehearsal schedule they'd otherwise not have to do.
Additionally rumor was that Rihanna fought tooth and nail at having to promote Ocean's 8 like her co-stars, and really only attended certain premieres rather than the press junkets, interviews, etc that the rest of the cast did. Apples and oranges but another signal that perhaps she's not willing to do more than the bare minimum for her projects.
I think it's pretty clear that at this point in her career, she (probably?) enjoys making music and being in movies, but would rather not do the extra work of promoting the projects whether by touring or press tours.
She has a lot of $ from music, movies, her Fenty line, and sponsorships so sure $5M is great but don't think it's all that big of a motivation.
Lastly, if we're talking about one-offs and lots of money to do what she wants to do, there is no way they didn't at least put feelers out to her for 2019, and there's doubly no way she wasn't considered as a replacement for Justin. My guess is that a rare Rihanna one-off would have been considered a higher priority than bumping Tame up a year early with no album yet. And she didn't appear. And so will that change necessarily for a one-off in 2020?
She's clearly one of the most obvious choices on paper. I'm saying that I think there might be more resistance on her part than we're assuming. If there's not a tour being routed around Coachella I just don't see her doing it.
And finally if you have any doubts about her stance on performing...have you ever seen a Rihanna concert? She fucking hates being up there. She paces slowly back and forth sullenly with zero emotion or passion. She's not a great live act. Rihanna on paper sounds like Gaga/Beyonce but in reality will end up like Drake/Calvin.
Post by TickleMeElmo on Feb 18, 2019 17:50:04 GMT -5
She didn’t do the Super Bowl because of the whole Kaepernick/kneeling fiasco and since others refused for the same reason, it seems pretty legitimate. Just because she didn’t replace JT this year doesn’t mean she doesn’t want to play at Coachella. It’s much more likely that the timing would’ve been too soon with her upcoming album.
Nobody is saying she’s an easy booking, if anything the issues and delays with the past several pop stars prove that it’s anything but. You say we shouldn’t assume things but that’s exactly what you’re doing with your argument. I’m just not buying that she’s never going to perform live ever again. If anything, doing a one-off would be more manageable since there’s considerably less time involved with that as opposed to a full tour.
And yes, I’ve watched several videos of her live and I think you’re mistaking her persona for being miserable on stage. She’s always like that lol.
It also doesn't make sense that they would seriously double down on a trend that by spring 2020 will be firmly mainstream (it already is) vs. trying to stay ahead and anticipate the next one like they always do.
I don’t think Black Keys are relevant enough to headline anymore. I’m still relatively young and can’t see people my age or younger getting excited about them the same way they would Tame Impala
