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They didn't grab MGMT on the album cycle, I'd imagine they'll wait if they want them. Phoenix isn't going to play Coachella again until they get a little space from 2013. Doesn't seem like they'll give Beach House the booking they want but you never know, they'd be a great Mojave closer. Most of the stuff they'd actually book going forward is the smaller stuff, because those acts are still making music and trying to be current.
Just gimme The Rapture and Grizzly Bear on new music.
What I'm most interested in seeing is whether we get a return to more legacy rock act bookings this year given: 1. Arroyo Seco and FYF look like they're probably done (2019 lineup may have been booked under the assumption that one or both may still be happening), and 2. Given the rumors of this year being the most unprofitable in a while, if GV tries to book a lineup appealing to an older crowd (knowing older festival goers are more likely to buy VIP, expensive trip packages, alcohol, etc.). The lineup this year was quite successful from a diversity standpoint, but if you're over 30 and find Weezer corny and never got into Aphex Twin, there wasn't a ton for you. What if Robert Plant played the main on Sunday evening instead of Bad Bunny, Van Morrison played Friday night Outdoor instead of Rufus playing SoCal for like the 8th time in the last two years, and a resurgent late 90s / early 00s emo act like Taking Back Sunday (who sold 8,000 tix in LA the Weekend 1) closed the Mojave instead of Kayantrada playing for the 3rd time in 5 years? That probably doesn't lose anybody from the core pop/mainstream festival demographic, and would have probably gotten a 30 year old like me to get off my ass and go (and from a profitability standpoint, I'd spend more money than whatever 20 year old took my place to see Rufus and Bad Bunny).
What I'm most interested in seeing is whether we get a return to more legacy rock act bookings this year given: 1. Arroyo Seco and FYF look like they're probably done (2019 lineup may have been booked under the assumption that one or both may still be happening), and
I remember reading about Arroyo Seco happening in Fall, so we should hear something about it soon.
And I personally think FYF is gonna come back next year.
Interestingly, when you go to goldenvoice.com/festivals, they still advertise FYF, Arroyo Seco and Panorama, but not any of their one-day festivals. Not sure if it means anything, but it's just wishful thinking.
I think Coachella is going to keep going international with the line up. I fully expect a lot of Asian and Spanish music again next year. I bet they branch out into more cultures as well. This year's line up would have been near perfect for Coachella, in terms of attendee reception AND ticket moving if JT and Kanye didn't drop out. They will keep the 2nd line casual friendly, and make the rest of the line up deep for the more dedicated attendee. I kinda fully expect to see names like BTS and The Jonas Brothers on the line up lol
What I'm most interested in seeing is whether we get a return to more legacy rock act bookings this year given: 1. Arroyo Seco and FYF look like they're probably done (2019 lineup may have been booked under the assumption that one or both may still be happening), and 2. Given the rumors of this year being the most unprofitable in a while, if GV tries to book a lineup appealing to an older crowd (knowing older festival goers are more likely to buy VIP, expensive trip packages, alcohol, etc.). The lineup this year was quite successful from a diversity standpoint, but if you're over 30 and find Weezer corny and never got into Aphex Twin, there wasn't a ton for you. What if Robert Plant played the main on Sunday evening instead of Bad Bunny, Van Morrison played Friday night Outdoor instead of Rufus playing SoCal for like the 8th time in the last two years, and a resurgent late 90s / early 00s emo act like Taking Back Sunday (who sold 8,000 tix in LA the Weekend 1) closed the Mojave instead of Kayantrada playing for the 3rd time in 5 years? That probably doesn't lose anybody from the core pop/mainstream festival demographic, and would have probably gotten a 30 year old like me to get off my ass and go (and from a profitability standpoint, I'd spend more money than whatever 20 year old took my place to see Rufus and Bad Bunny).
In short, ELO 2020. Make it happen.
I don't think Coachella would book Taking Back Sunday, and I don't think Van Morrison would play Coachella. And I think you're underrating the draw of Bad Bunny and Rufus.
Never too early to start planning and our group was assuming that April 10-12 would be weekend 1. Just saw a rental property that has it as April 17-19 and weekend 2 as 24-26. There's no way they would want Stage Coach pushed into May right ?
Never too early to start planning and our group was assuming that April 10-12 would be weekend 1. Just saw a rental property that has it as April 17-19 and weekend 2 as 24-26. There's no way they would want Stage Coach pushed into May right ?
Don't think they'd go as far to make someone like a BTS headline. But they'd have to either close the Outdoor or Sahara. Don't think a 50 minute sub set would be enough. Jonas Brothers are definitely possible, they'd have a huge draw. If they drop an album and it does well, I'd bet they're booked. End of 2nd line/Top of 3rd line act. For some reason I have a strong feeling that Kanye and JT actually headline next year.
I think Coachella is going to keep going international with the line up. I fully expect a lot of Asian and Spanish music again next year. I bet they branch out into more cultures as well. This year's line up would have been near perfect for Coachella, in terms of attendee reception AND ticket moving if JT and Kanye didn't drop out. They will keep the 2nd line casual friendly, and make the rest of the line up deep for the more dedicated attendee. I kinda fully expect to see names like BTS and The Jonas Brothers on the line up lol
Yup. PT is gonna make Coachella the international hotspot festival.
I think Coachella is going to keep going international with the line up. I fully expect a lot of Asian and Spanish music again next year. I bet they branch out into more cultures as well. This year's line up would have been near perfect for Coachella, in terms of attendee reception AND ticket moving if JT and Kanye didn't drop out. They will keep the 2nd line casual friendly, and make the rest of the line up deep for the more dedicated attendee. I kinda fully expect to see names like BTS and The Jonas Brothers on the line up lol
Makes sense considering how diverse CA is, but I don't think we will see The Jonas Brothers headlining. IHeartRadio fest is there for a reason
I can see some of these names from 2015-2017 coming back:
Don't think they'd go as far to make someone like a BTS headline. But they'd have to either close the Outdoor or Sahara. Don't think a 50 minute sub set would be enough. Jonas Brothers are definitely possible, they'd have a huge draw. If they drop an album and it does well, I'd bet they're booked. End of 2nd line/Top of 3rd line act. For some reason I have a strong feeling that Kanye and JT actually headline next year.
BTS are selling out multiple nights at stadiums. If they are booked at Coachella they headline.
What I'm most interested in seeing is whether we get a return to more legacy rock act bookings this year given: 1. Arroyo Seco and FYF look like they're probably done (2019 lineup may have been booked under the assumption that one or both may still be happening), and 2. Given the rumors of this year being the most unprofitable in a while, if GV tries to book a lineup appealing to an older crowd (knowing older festival goers are more likely to buy VIP, expensive trip packages, alcohol, etc.). The lineup this year was quite successful from a diversity standpoint, but if you're over 30 and find Weezer corny and never got into Aphex Twin, there wasn't a ton for you. What if Robert Plant played the main on Sunday evening instead of Bad Bunny, Van Morrison played Friday night Outdoor instead of Rufus playing SoCal for like the 8th time in the last two years, and a resurgent late 90s / early 00s emo act like Taking Back Sunday (who sold 8,000 tix in LA the Weekend 1) closed the Mojave instead of Kayantrada playing for the 3rd time in 5 years? That probably doesn't lose anybody from the core pop/mainstream festival demographic, and would have probably gotten a 30 year old like me to get off my ass and go (and from a profitability standpoint, I'd spend more money than whatever 20 year old took my place to see Rufus and Bad Bunny).
In short, ELO 2020. Make it happen.
I don't think Coachella would book Taking Back Sunday, and I don't think Van Morrison would play Coachella. And I think you're underrating the draw of Bad Bunny and Rufus.
But yeah, I'm on board for ELO
I was just throwing the example out, my point being "plug any 2-4 acts geared for an older audience for any 2-4 acts geared for the mainstream/pop audience" and I doubt the festival does any worse on profitability, and maybe a lot better.
That said, I don't see why they wouldn't book Taking Back Sunday. Festival has a long history of booking emo bands from Brand New, AFI, Jimmy Eat World in the "new Coachella era" to Thursday, Coheed and Cambria, etc. in the old Coachella era. And on the discussion of trends, "emo revival" as a trend is probably one of the more exciting things in indie rock right now, and they booked an emo band this year in Turnover, so can't imagine they are firmly averse to it.
I don't think Coachella would book Taking Back Sunday, and I don't think Van Morrison would play Coachella. And I think you're underrating the draw of Bad Bunny and Rufus.
But yeah, I'm on board for ELO
I was just throwing the example out, my point being "plug any 2-4 acts geared for an older audience for any 2-4 acts geared for the mainstream/pop audience" and I doubt the festival does any worse on profitability, and maybe a lot better.
That said, I don't see why they wouldn't book Taking Back Sunday. Festival has a long history of booking emo bands from Brand New, AFI, Jimmy Eat World in the "new Coachella era" to Thursday, Coheed and Cambria, etc. in the old Coachella era. And on the discussion of trends, "emo revival" as a trend is probably one of the more exciting things in indie rock right now, and they booked an emo band this year in Turnover, so can't imagine they are firmly averse to it.
They booked Turnover because they can put them at 4:00 in the Sonora. Hardly equivalent.
If they book a bigger emo act, it's going to be American Football.
I don't see how booking TBS in 2020 is any different than booking Weezer in 2019 (did a bunch of covers make them exciting?), Rancid in 2016, Bad Religion in 2015, AFI in 2014, etc. etc. Festival has had a long history of booking pretty big punk acts that aren't necessarily exciting or supporting Best New Music, but give the poster a pretty well rounded diversity to it.
And there's very little chance they'd book American Football. I'm a huge AF fan, but they had problems selling out the Ace, they'd cost a lot and play to like 200 people in the Gobi. Think those days of bookings (Swans at midnight in a tent ala 2015) are gone. GV is close with the Kinsella brothers and had Cap'n Jazz at FYF and did AF at the Ace for a reason IMO.
Agree to disagree though, I guess, don't want to side track this with my #EmoTalk, just hoping for something appealing to people over 30.
Post by WhyTheLongFace on Apr 20, 2019 18:16:02 GMT -5
People born in the 80s don’t just listen to rock. For some reason you guys think acts like Solange, Janelle, Rufus aren’t acts aimed towards older adults. When you guys say 30 year olds you mean “30+ year olds who went to Coachella in their 20s and want the acts that were there then here now and don’t like that Coachella is appeasing to the 30 year old that wasn’t enjoying Coachella in their 20s even tho they are the customers now”
People born in the 80s don’t just listen to rock. For some reason you guys think acts like Solange, Janelle, Rufus aren’t acts aimed towards older adults. When you guys say 30 year olds you mean “30+ year olds who went to Coachella in their 20s and want the acts that were there then here now and don’t like that Coachella is appeasing to the 30 year old that wasn’t enjoying Coachella in their 20s even tho they are the customers now”
Yeah, I’m over 30 and speaking for all my people we want Hot Chip closing the Mojave.
Post by problem dog on Apr 20, 2019 18:20:19 GMT -5
They booked stuff for people over 30 this year, it just wasn't the specific stuff that you wanted. I'm over 30 and I don't care about Blackpink or Bad Bunny or Weezer, and I had full days with tons of conflicts.
You are out of your mind if you think the Jonas Brothers will ever be booked for this festival.
Was also told Ariana wouldn't/couldn't headline Coachella because she was "pop without crossover appeal like Gaga and Beyonce" so I'll take my chances. I feel like a lot of older Coachella goers are glued to a formula that seems to have changed/be changing. A lot of unwritten rules on who would and wouldn't be booked at Coachella are probably not the same.
I think Coachella is going to keep going international with the line up. I fully expect a lot of Asian and Spanish music again next year. I bet they branch out into more cultures as well. This year's line up would have been near perfect for Coachella, in terms of attendee reception AND ticket moving if JT and Kanye didn't drop out. They will keep the 2nd line casual friendly, and make the rest of the line up deep for the more dedicated attendee. I kinda fully expect to see names like BTS and The Jonas Brothers on the line up lol
Makes sense considering how diverse CA is, but I don't think we will see The Jonas Brothers headlining. IHeartRadio fest is there for a reason
I can see some of these names from 2015-2017 coming back:
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