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Post by piggy pablo on Jun 20, 2019 12:42:20 GMT -5
It's not a given for me.
I think policies that hurt the poor and lead to creeping right-ism would continue to fester under Biden. I think we would still have concentration camps and go to war with Iran with Biden. More people would just feel comfortable with it.
I think policies that hurt the poor and lead to creeping right-ism would continue to fester under Biden. I think we would still have concentration camps and go to war with Iran with Biden. More people would just feel comfortable with it.
It's also acknowledging that my area is going to be Blue no matter what. I am still voting down the line, and understand thoroughly that I need Trump out of office or we damage our entire system and life. Time is cut short for many with another 4 years of Trump and that's some real shit.
I think policies that hurt the poor and lead to creeping right-ism would continue to fester under Biden. I think we would still have concentration camps and go to war with Iran with Biden. More people would just feel comfortable with it.
It's also acknowledging that my area is going to be Blue no matter what. I am still voting down the line, and understand thoroughly that I need Trump out of office or we damage our entire system and life. Time is cut short for many with another 4 years of Trump and that's some real shit.
That will be my worry too no matter who the candidate is. This administration's absolute disdain for order and tradition along with fuckhead Senator McConnell in place could possibly mean up to another 3 supreme court justices. I don't know who has the power to add more seats and if they need approval from another branch. But it's not like McConnell is going to do anything to move any nominees forward because he doesn't give a shit. The only way replacement seats get done is if the Democrats keep the house and take the presidency. This shitty version of the US Senate could then be exposed for the fuckheads they are. I'm sure Fox would spin it as guardians of democracy and freedom, but I don't watch Fox, so what they say doesn't affect me personally.
Would anyone here actually consider not voting for Biden if he got the nomination? I hear people on here talk about a response to it but I don’t think I’ve seen anyone on here say they wouldn’t vote for him.
We're in Georgia so it dosn't matter anyway. I'm sure I would likly go but I'd do nothing to help him win and have literally no faith he could beat Trump anyway. It would be a situation where Trump is just too awful and beat himself. Maybe?
The worry isn't what the left would do. Most of them vote Dem and the ones who don't weren't going to before Sanders anyway. .It's what the unengaged, disillusioned and former Dem voters will do. Plus the Youth and independents. There's almost nothing pointing to Biden interesting many of them.
I think a lot of people should loudly say "I wouldn't vote for Joe Biden" so maybe people have second thoughts about voting for him in the primary because of "Electability"
I think a lot of people should loudly say "I wouldn't vote for Joe Biden" so maybe people have second thoughts about voting for him in the primary because of "Electability"
I think a lot of people should loudly say "I wouldn't vote for Joe Biden" so maybe people have second thoughts about voting for him in the primary because of "Electability"
Yeah, I think people should do what they can to talk relatives and friends out of it. Because it's a truly a bad idea in almost every way.
I still think the odds are Biden will bomb and fuck things up himself. But people are scared and nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
I think a lot of people should loudly say "I wouldn't vote for Joe Biden" so maybe people have second thoughts about voting for him in the primary because of "Electability"
Yeah, I think people should do what they can to talk relatives and friends out of it. Because it's a truly a bad idea in almost every way.
I still think the odds are Biden will bomb and fuck things up himself. But people are scared and nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
Motherfuckers sniff nostalgia harder than any line of cocaine I've ever seen.
Important to note that I find the drug that it is, is as potent as the ones they judge others for, like when we walk the farm often. The parallel positioning without understanding it, and openly hating others and also being all in still on the drug war (ex. half way on this whole pot thing... I mean no one died...) - are all tied together.
*edit: the thread name change is boss.
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I think a lot of people should loudly say "I wouldn't vote for Joe Biden" so maybe people have second thoughts about voting for him in the primary because of "Electability"
Yeah, I think people should do what they can to talk relatives and friends out of it. Because it's a truly a bad idea in almost every way.
I still think the odds are Biden will bomb and fuck things up himself. But people are scared and nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
I hope he flames out or bombs himself, because I won't vote for Joe Biden. Period. Fuck that.
If Biden flames out, who is most likely to benefit? On the surface I’d guess Senators Warren or Sanders. But I don’t know if there aren’t old angry people who are scared of both of them and look elsewhere. Obviously it has been promoted lately that Senator Warren is a more acceptable to the establishment candidate. Whether that’s good or bad depends on who is pushing the line. Maybe Senator Harris or Mayor Pete? It really doesn’t seem like anyone else even polls anymore except in certain states. That doesn’t mean that no one can come from nowhere, but absent some crazy shit, I don’t see how any of the rest could make enough headway as it would take someone’s dominant debate performance and ability to grab consistent headlines starting this summer. But it seems like we are down to 1 of these 5 candidates as a fairly safe bet - maybe 80% +/-?
Roy Moore is running. I hope he wins the AL GOP primary.
If he wins the primary, he will 100% win the general with Trump driving R turnout in a non-special election
Either would be embarrassing enough. Both, which you are probably right since Jones was off year special election, puts Alabama at about Bottom 1 electorate. That’s too bad too because there are plenty of cool mfers in the cities - just not enough of them. Most of the South is bad as it is.
Yeah, I think people should do what they can to talk relatives and friends out of it. Because it's a truly a bad idea in almost every way.
I still think the odds are Biden will bomb and fuck things up himself. But people are scared and nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
Motherfuckers sniff nostalgia harder than any line of cocaine I've ever seen.
What's funny is what they are nostalgic for wasn't worth shit to a lot of people. Which is one the main problems with some liberals. A lot of this shit is performative. They want to feel good and smart. It's a nice smug feeling knowing you don't vote for the racist-dumbfuck party. I get it. BUT beyond that they don't really want to upset the apple cart all that much. Either because they've got theirs or they are just conflict adverse and fear risking much of anything. They are comfortable and they likely won't admit it but that's what matters. Not the endless statistics showing how bad things are getting for people in this country. Not the fact that they are supporting a party that has unfortunately slid to the right on many important issues. Honestly, I think it's really easy for Americans to fall into this. We are a spoiled, privileged lot after all. If you point this this stuff out too much you're a problem. It's again up to us to get in line and vote for whatever middle-of-the-road shit we are handed.
What if... hear me out, the Left has some good fucking points? What if people listened when they say "this guy will likely lose, and even if he wins it's a band-aid on a bullet wound." Maybe taking that at face value is more important than endlessly fretting about if the left will vote for whatever the establishment is pushing. And, if that is a main concern, why the fuck is the vote of the left just routinely taken for granted? Maybe it would help the party faithful to choose someone that appeals to a wider base? I mean strategy isn't the enemy.
It's so bizarre to me because I get that some leftists are insanely irritating and routinely incorrect. But a number of people in every sub-group are as well. How many folks do you see blaming Bernie and his supporters for Trump? It's all over the place. Some even think he's tied in with the Russians If that's your understanding of politics you're a goddamn dumbass*. Flat out. That's also behavior that drives people away from voting Democratic. Strangely, this is rarely called out. There are no think pieces on how tradition Democratic voters are hurting their party by being shitheads online(which they are) or making up complete lies about one of the Dem frontrunners(which they do). I'm fine with that because it's a small group of people that doesn't represent the whole. I also don't expect the media and Libs to ever extend that courtesy to the Left.
*If you want to blame individuals for sitting out or whatever go for it I guess but that's pretty short-sighted and it's likely not helping anything.
Yeah, I think people should do what they can to talk relatives and friends out of it. Because it's a truly a bad idea in almost every way.
I still think the odds are Biden will bomb and fuck things up himself. But people are scared and nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
I hope he flames out or bombs himself, because I won't vote for Joe Biden. Period. Fuck that.
I'm counting on it. We are beyond fucked otherwise. I'd be beyond depressed and might just give up hope in anything ever changing. Which, I mean, is likely true anyway.
Post by piggy pablo on Jun 21, 2019 1:56:14 GMT -5
If there's one thing to be happy with about Trump, and clearly there is a ton not to, it's that he has no personal interest in war with Iran the way most politicians have such a hard-on for (including AOC now, apparently, who says Iran is trying to provoke a war with us, which is laughable). Similar thing with Venezuela.
Another reason Bernie and Tulsi are the best on the Dem side (there may be others but they're the ones who I know oppose the forever wars).