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Post by itrainmonkeys on May 21, 2022 17:10:27 GMT -5
As Frank Langella Defies His Firing, More Details About Inappropriate Behavior Claims On Set Of Netflix Series Emerge
EXCLUSIVE: By May 4, the cast and crew of Netflix’s The Fall of the House of Usher had moved on. It had been three weeks since star Frank Langella had been fired following an investigation into complaints of unacceptable behavior, and Bruce Greenwood had just been cast as his replacement. Then the incident returned to the headlines with Langella’s fiery guest column on Deadline, in which he portrayed himself as “collateral damage” and a victim of cancel culture which he called “not fair,” “not just” and “not American.”
The response to Langella’s column has not been uniform. He did receive support — some in Hollywood called his statement powerful and praised the Oscar-nominated actor for speaking up. The reaction among the cast and crew of The Fall of the House of Usher, meanwhile, has been largely that of shock, disbelief and anger, multiple sources tell Deadline, bringing back memories of Langella’s time on the show and the investigation that led to his dismissal. The column also sparked a debate about freedom of artistic expression versus appropriate workplace conduct and about generational culture clashes as social norms change and evolve.
Deadline interviewed a number of people on or close to the Netflix production who did not want to be named for this story. One word consistently used by virtually everyone when describing Langella’s behavior was “toxic” as they recalled inappropriate comments and behavior as well as “crass” jokes he allegedly made.
“There was a general sense of toxicity that followed him around,” one person working on the series said. “A lot of the cast and crew were very uncomfortable around Frank from the beginning.”
Reps for Netflix and Langella did not respond to requests for comment. In his column, Langella made it clear he did not agree with his termination. He has been meeting with attorneys and is said to be exploring legal action.
In the column, Langella, 84, describes in detail the incident he says was at the core of his dismissal. In his words, it involved a young actress who complained that he had touched her leg during a love scene in a way that had not been blocked by the intimacy coordinator.
While Netflix’s investigation was triggered by the touching complaint Langella talked about, the internal probe examined more than a dozen incidents and accusations over the course of several weeks, sources told Deadline. Other sources claim that the main part of the investigation played out over the 48 hours following the touching incident, and that complaint was one of a couple that ultimately were deemed actionable by Netflix.
In his column, Langella spoke about the investigation, describing “some of the allegations: 1. ‘He told an off-color joke.’ 2. ‘Sometimes he called me ‘baby’ or ‘honey.’” 3. ‘He’d give me a hug or touch my shoulder.’
People who worked with Langella on the Netflix series provided more detail about some of the incidents, which, according to sources, started in the first week of production.
“There were issues out of the gate with very inappropriate comments, some of which were incredibly sexual in nature, others that were graphic and misogynistic,” one person from the show said about Langella, stressing that the comments were “not jokes but shocking to pretty much anyone within earshot.”
Here are a few examples Deadline has been able to corroborate with multiple sources; the alleged incidents were part of the investigation, sources said.
Langella had the habit of “saying things randomly or loudly that were not scripted” during blocking or rehearsal, two people from the production told Deadline. (“When you are the leading actor, it requires, in my opinion, that you set an example by keeping the atmosphere light and friendly,” Langella wrote in his column.)
One scene involved a discussion about a character that had gone to the bar. “Frank added during the blocking, ‘And then she took all her clothes and f*cked the whole bar in front of the whole crew.’ No one laughed. There was no joke to set it up, it was just a thing he said,” an eyewitness told Deadline.
Langella also allegedly inquired about the body makeup applied on an actor playing a character that had been badly burnt, asking the person whether the makeup extended to his genitalia; if the fire had “burnt your d*ck?” “It was grossly inappropriate,” a source said.
Then there was a crude sex joke Langella allegedly told multiple times in front of crew members and staff about elderly people in a nursing home where a guy dumps a girlfriend because she has Parkinson’s and her hand shakes when she is holding his penis, multiple sources told Deadline.
Additionally, “he asked cast members about their sexual experiences,” a source at the production told Deadline. Added another: “He spoke graphically about his own sexual history to many people even as they were trying to get out of those conversations.”
People who have known Langella a long time are not particularly surprised, pointing to the actor’s 2012 memoir Dropped Names, which is full of tales of sexual escapades and dirty jokes. The New York Times called the book “satisfyingly scandalous” in its review, which was titled “Cheerful Debauchery.”
I hear the Fall of the House of Usher producers and Netflix got involved early on, asking Langella to change his behavior. The actor alluded to warnings from the series’ producers in his column. He wrote: “’You cannot do that, Frank,’ said our producer. ‘You can’t joke. You can’t compliment. You can’t touch. It’s a new order.”
While Langella would agree to make adjustments, he also accused those who tried to correct him of being “too uptight and woke,” a source from the show said. Langella echoed the “cancel culture” sentiment in his column, in which he questioned Netflix’s due process, insisting that he was not given a hearing prior to his termination.
In addition to sexually charged and explicit remarks, the use of racially insensitive “comments and jokes” by Langella also was the subject of Netflix’s investigation, several sources told Deadline.
As for the accusations Langella referred to in his column as “he’d give me a hug or touch my shoulder,” there were three allegations of inappropriate touching in a performance including the one that led to the investigation, multiple people from the show told Deadline. “They were not necessarily sexual scenes, but they were intimate in their own way; some were intimate familial,” one source said. Added another, “Actors would request sometimes that additional people be on set with them if they would share a scene with him, including people who requested an intimacy coordinator even if a scene did not seem too intimate; there was sense of distrust and boundaries violation.”
In his column, Langella called the standard practice of careful choreographing love scenes by intimacy coordinators “absurd!,” claiming that “it undermines instinct and spontaneity.”
In a separate incident, “in at least one case a non-sexual physical contact was made with a makeup artist where he smacked them out of the way, that was very upsetting,” an insider told Deadline. Other sources suggested that Langella had asked repeatedly for special effects work on him to be paused and ultimately gestured at the makeup artist trying to protect himself. Whoever has read Edgar Allan Poe’s short story on which the Netflix series is based knows that the character Langella was playing, Roderick Usher, has a specific appearance that requires heavy makeup.
As Netflix’s investigation went on with new incidents and witnesses surfacing, tension grew as cast and crew felt like nothing would come out it, Deadline was told. When Langella was fired, “there was a profound relief bordering on jubilation among cast and crew,” a source from the show said.
The Fall of the House of Usher is in production for a possible 2023 premiere on Netflix.
As Frank Langella Defies His Firing, More Details About Inappropriate Behavior Claims On Set Of Netflix Series Emerge
EXCLUSIVE: By May 4, the cast and crew of Netflix’s The Fall of the House of Usher had moved on. It had been three weeks since star Frank Langella had been fired following an investigation into complaints of unacceptable behavior, and Bruce Greenwood had just been cast as his replacement. Then the incident returned to the headlines with Langella’s fiery guest column on Deadline, in which he portrayed himself as “collateral damage” and a victim of cancel culture which he called “not fair,” “not just” and “not American.”
The response to Langella’s column has not been uniform. He did receive support — some in Hollywood called his statement powerful and praised the Oscar-nominated actor for speaking up. The reaction among the cast and crew of The Fall of the House of Usher, meanwhile, has been largely that of shock, disbelief and anger, multiple sources tell Deadline, bringing back memories of Langella’s time on the show and the investigation that led to his dismissal. The column also sparked a debate about freedom of artistic expression versus appropriate workplace conduct and about generational culture clashes as social norms change and evolve.
Deadline interviewed a number of people on or close to the Netflix production who did not want to be named for this story. One word consistently used by virtually everyone when describing Langella’s behavior was “toxic” as they recalled inappropriate comments and behavior as well as “crass” jokes he allegedly made.
“There was a general sense of toxicity that followed him around,” one person working on the series said. “A lot of the cast and crew were very uncomfortable around Frank from the beginning.”
Reps for Netflix and Langella did not respond to requests for comment. In his column, Langella made it clear he did not agree with his termination. He has been meeting with attorneys and is said to be exploring legal action.
In the column, Langella, 84, describes in detail the incident he says was at the core of his dismissal. In his words, it involved a young actress who complained that he had touched her leg during a love scene in a way that had not been blocked by the intimacy coordinator.
While Netflix’s investigation was triggered by the touching complaint Langella talked about, the internal probe examined more than a dozen incidents and accusations over the course of several weeks, sources told Deadline. Other sources claim that the main part of the investigation played out over the 48 hours following the touching incident, and that complaint was one of a couple that ultimately were deemed actionable by Netflix.
In his column, Langella spoke about the investigation, describing “some of the allegations: 1. ‘He told an off-color joke.’ 2. ‘Sometimes he called me ‘baby’ or ‘honey.’” 3. ‘He’d give me a hug or touch my shoulder.’
People who worked with Langella on the Netflix series provided more detail about some of the incidents, which, according to sources, started in the first week of production.
“There were issues out of the gate with very inappropriate comments, some of which were incredibly sexual in nature, others that were graphic and misogynistic,” one person from the show said about Langella, stressing that the comments were “not jokes but shocking to pretty much anyone within earshot.”
Here are a few examples Deadline has been able to corroborate with multiple sources; the alleged incidents were part of the investigation, sources said.
Langella had the habit of “saying things randomly or loudly that were not scripted” during blocking or rehearsal, two people from the production told Deadline. (“When you are the leading actor, it requires, in my opinion, that you set an example by keeping the atmosphere light and friendly,” Langella wrote in his column.)
One scene involved a discussion about a character that had gone to the bar. “Frank added during the blocking, ‘And then she took all her clothes and f*cked the whole bar in front of the whole crew.’ No one laughed. There was no joke to set it up, it was just a thing he said,” an eyewitness told Deadline.
Langella also allegedly inquired about the body makeup applied on an actor playing a character that had been badly burnt, asking the person whether the makeup extended to his genitalia; if the fire had “burnt your d*ck?” “It was grossly inappropriate,” a source said.
Then there was a crude sex joke Langella allegedly told multiple times in front of crew members and staff about elderly people in a nursing home where a guy dumps a girlfriend because she has Parkinson’s and her hand shakes when she is holding his penis, multiple sources told Deadline.
Additionally, “he asked cast members about their sexual experiences,” a source at the production told Deadline. Added another: “He spoke graphically about his own sexual history to many people even as they were trying to get out of those conversations.”
People who have known Langella a long time are not particularly surprised, pointing to the actor’s 2012 memoir Dropped Names, which is full of tales of sexual escapades and dirty jokes. The New York Times called the book “satisfyingly scandalous” in its review, which was titled “Cheerful Debauchery.”
I hear the Fall of the House of Usher producers and Netflix got involved early on, asking Langella to change his behavior. The actor alluded to warnings from the series’ producers in his column. He wrote: “’You cannot do that, Frank,’ said our producer. ‘You can’t joke. You can’t compliment. You can’t touch. It’s a new order.”
While Langella would agree to make adjustments, he also accused those who tried to correct him of being “too uptight and woke,” a source from the show said. Langella echoed the “cancel culture” sentiment in his column, in which he questioned Netflix’s due process, insisting that he was not given a hearing prior to his termination.
In addition to sexually charged and explicit remarks, the use of racially insensitive “comments and jokes” by Langella also was the subject of Netflix’s investigation, several sources told Deadline.
As for the accusations Langella referred to in his column as “he’d give me a hug or touch my shoulder,” there were three allegations of inappropriate touching in a performance including the one that led to the investigation, multiple people from the show told Deadline. “They were not necessarily sexual scenes, but they were intimate in their own way; some were intimate familial,” one source said. Added another, “Actors would request sometimes that additional people be on set with them if they would share a scene with him, including people who requested an intimacy coordinator even if a scene did not seem too intimate; there was sense of distrust and boundaries violation.”
In his column, Langella called the standard practice of careful choreographing love scenes by intimacy coordinators “absurd!,” claiming that “it undermines instinct and spontaneity.”
In a separate incident, “in at least one case a non-sexual physical contact was made with a makeup artist where he smacked them out of the way, that was very upsetting,” an insider told Deadline. Other sources suggested that Langella had asked repeatedly for special effects work on him to be paused and ultimately gestured at the makeup artist trying to protect himself. Whoever has read Edgar Allan Poe’s short story on which the Netflix series is based knows that the character Langella was playing, Roderick Usher, has a specific appearance that requires heavy makeup.
As Netflix’s investigation went on with new incidents and witnesses surfacing, tension grew as cast and crew felt like nothing would come out it, Deadline was told. When Langella was fired, “there was a profound relief bordering on jubilation among cast and crew,” a source from the show said.
The Fall of the House of Usher is in production for a possible 2023 premiere on Netflix.
It sounds like such a horrible working experience.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jun 3, 2022 19:12:59 GMT -5
He's touring it and screening it at the beacon and other venues.
So much for cancel culture. Sure, it's more difficult for him now and he's mostly gotta find his own funding but he was already doing that before he was "cancelled" anyway.
Genuine question: After reading the full and honest explanation, why is this disgusting and disappointing to you?
they made an apolitical statement about the current apartheid situation in Israel while an active genocide is occurring. They said nothing in their statement to condemn Israels treatment of Palestinians. Instead all we get is a “sorry, not sorry” while they continue to fence sit. Someone in the comments described it well, this is the equivalent of performing for an NRA fundraiser and having the proceeds go to victims of gun violence
Post by piggy pablo on Jun 4, 2022 10:09:59 GMT -5
I definitely support Palestine and BDS but also feel sometimes that playing the United States is pretty equivalent to playing Israel, morally speaking. I mean, Israel wouldn't function the way it does without our support, for one thing. And we do illegal wars and occupy countries all over the world.
I definitely support Palestine and BDS but also feel sometimes that playing the United States is pretty equivalent to playing Israel, morally speaking. I mean, Israel wouldn't function the way it does without our support, for one thing. And we do illegal wars and occupy countries all over the world.
I definitely support Palestine and BDS but also feel sometimes that playing the United States is pretty equivalent to playing Israel, morally speaking. I mean, Israel wouldn't function the way it does without our support, for one thing. And we do illegal wars and occupy countries all over the world.
1. America arguably commits genocide against black and Hispanic people, but not as blatantly as Israel does against Palestine. 2. There's ICE concentration camps all over the place, even in Massachusetts and Rhode Island. 3. America funnels money into Israel like rich dudes at strip clubs. And AIPAC literally can't go more than 15 minutes without advertising on right wing propaganda stations. 4. So considering how fucked up America is, it's ok for the three Americans to do shows in their country but not the Israeli in Tel Aviv? That seems unfair.
Genuine question: After reading the full and honest explanation, why is this disgusting and disappointing to you?
they made an apolitical statement about the current apartheid situation in Israel while an active genocide is occurring. They said nothing in their statement to condemn Israels treatment of Palestinians. Instead all we get is a “sorry, not sorry” while they continue to fence sit. Someone in the comments described it well, this is the equivalent of performing for an NRA fundraiser and having the proceeds go to victims of gun violence
This is a terrible analogy. The Barby Club has no affiliation with the Israeli government. It's amazing to me that people continue to conflate playing Israel with supporting its government, yet were silent for years as artists played Russia and seemingly hold concerts here in the US to a completely different standard all together.
Post by 3post1jack1 on Jun 5, 2022 22:44:27 GMT -5
Really all of rock and roll is rooted in racism and mysogny so nobody should be playing it anywhere. We should probably all just find Jesus and only attend churches where no music at all is played. Just pray and stop masturbating.
Overall pleased with how little this board has discussed Johnny, Amber, and the trial, but pretty concerned for the way things are likely to head now.
Oh it basically sets a huge precedent not only for being able to sue someone for libel when someone else writes about domestic abuse without using that person’s name.
The “cancelled then back to work” pipeline is consistent, unless you are literally in jail.
I did not think they were keeping them. That's awful. I don't understand with these actors that get this level of protection. Ezra isn't that bankable, are they? I guess for executives they're like "well if we punish them for hitting women and grooming prepubescent girls, that sets the precedent that I might get in trouble for the sick shit I do".
It's also crazy how fast Will Smith's career got put on hold after the Slap compared to what Ezra is getting away with. I get that it happened on TV but just wow.
I was speechless and outraged, and then I realized where we are. Of course he is going to continue to work and make a shit-ton of money. It was only women and coming of age girls that were harmed. Who cares about those?
Post by hygienequeen on Jun 9, 2022 8:43:49 GMT -5
Hollywood doen't know how to handle Ezra because if they cancel them they are anti LGBT+ (obviously that's crazy talk they are just a violent individual who needs not be around woman/fans)
The statement on the girl's IG (which apparently is controlled by Ezra) is troubling and feels very groomed.
As for The Flash moving forward, Ezra is the lead and replacing them and refilming all their scenes would cost hundreds of millions. Not releasing the film would also be a loss of hundreds of millions. Wondering if they could fire Ezra for a breach of contract. There is maybe a conduct clause in there, and donate all of his earnings to FSA or something.