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Sorry, is the story hear that Jonah doesn’t like his girlfriend having close friendships with guys and doesn’t like her posting revealing photos?
I don’t really know the nature of their relationship but I don’t think it’s crazy to have standards and boundaries in relationships. I think it’s kind of a dick thing to do but I don’t really know if I would called this emotional abuse.
also this is wildddddd. controlling your partner's social media gallery and who they talk to/hang out with is just "having standards?"
tbh i'm hoping some folks defending Jonah Hill's actions as boundaries just didn't see the full set of texts. editing someone's social media and dictating who they can hang out with is abusive, full stop. losing friends to an isolating and abusive partner is real and is devastating.
also this is wildddddd. controlling your partner's social media gallery and who they talk to/hang out with is just "having standards?"
tbh i'm hoping some folks defending Jonah Hill's actions as boundaries just didn't see the full set of texts. editing someone's social media and dictating who they can hang out with is abusive, full stop. losing friends to an isolating and abusive partner is real and is devastating.
theres a part of me thats like "wow that must be nice to have never been in a relationship thats emotionally abusive and therefore be this ignorant of the nuances of how that can present," but a larger part of me feels like this needs to be a time where anyone who HASN'T gone through something like this should stand down, listen to those that have, and not try to nitpick what emotionally manipulative tactics are bad enough to call abuse or not.
read: they pretty much all are (of those things ITM listed in his post, which was comprehensive and very accurate)
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Sorry, is the story hear that Jonah doesn’t like his girlfriend having close friendships with guys and doesn’t like her posting revealing photos?
I don’t really know the nature of their relationship but I don’t think it’s crazy to have standards and boundaries in relationships. I think it’s kind of a dick thing to do but I don’t really know if I would called this emotional abuse.
also this is wildddddd. controlling your partner's social media gallery and who they talk to/hang out with is just "having standards?"
Maybe I was too liberal on the word “boundary”. I just usually expect a second thing to cross the line into abuse. If they’d been together for years, blackmail, etc but I think his “you’re free to leave” approach might actually be legit. She’s even telling people “if you’re in this situation then break up with him” so I don’t think there was any conditional threat.
im going to answer this gently because i truly do not believe you are trying to be obtuse or dismissive of people who have suffered emotional abuse in romantic relationships, but ngl it is sorta triggering to read someone say "i just need to see proof of additional things for it to cross into abuse with something like blackmail" as if anything before or "less awful" than that doesn't actually count.
in my emotionally abusive relationship, i was gaslit and lied to and manipulated and controlled - but often in nuanced ways.
he didn't block the door from me going to meet up with a friend he didn't like, but he DID make up stories about things they'd done or said so i wouldn't trust them.
he didn't force me to stay with him physically at any point but he did set up a toxic bubble for our relationship to exist within, where if i doubted his actions or intentions, he was always one step ahead of me for excuses of why he did it, and how it was just proof of how much he loved me, etc.
Lying about your friends, gaslighting, etc. are things I would consider to be that "extra step". I'm not saying anyone who is sharing their stories here hasn't gone through abuse. They all seem worse than what Jonah did and that's all I am saying. It feels like everyone trying to explain why this is as bad as it's being made it out to be is just naming worse situations or hypotheticals (rape, beatings) and trying to equate it all when it really isn't that black and white.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jul 12, 2023 14:12:19 GMT -5
I do think it's a bit unfair to compare it to something like physical or sexual abuse/assault. Saying "What if it was this?" changes the discussion and then we end up arguing over something that didn't even happen because of hypotheticals. Not discounting anyone's personal experiences but if we're talking the Jonah Hill stuff I don't necessarily think it's as extreme as those cases. Though it's always important to notice/identify red flags because you never know what a relationship can eventually turn into. Nobody starts out dating and being abusive immediately.
Anyway, I already said most of my feelings on the matter so not going to go over all that again. I do think there are some interesting perspectives from others on Twitter (mostly women) that do make you think a bit more about how/why Jonah's actions were a problem and controlling/emotionally abusive but it's always going to be different depending on the person. Here's some more thoughts from others that I found educational or informative:
Do we know how this relationship actually ended? I've read a couple of times now that it was Jonah that ended it but am not sure if the opposite has been reported elsewhere.
Do we know how this relationship actually ended? I've read a couple of times now that it was Jonah that ended it but am not sure if the opposite has been reported elsewhere.
LOL from someone pining for an ex. It never actually matters. It's clear this was relevant and maybe didn't become the cause but drove the train off the tracks.
edit: to be clear it's because she still had to deal with the time where she tried to comply with, not-her. No one deserves that.
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Post by g a b f r a b on Jul 13, 2023 9:32:25 GMT -5
How many followers do you think Alexa gained after she posted that? I’m not going to jump to Jonah's defense in this situation, but I will make multiple posts questioning why these broads won't just shut their traps!
Post by trick or trant on Jul 13, 2023 12:24:10 GMT -5
When I was 17, Jonah Hill and Justin Long took $5,000 from me so that I could attended their college. After nearly an entire semester, it was found out that I had been swindled and that South Harmon Institute of Technology was not actually a real school.
Post by trick or trant on Jul 13, 2023 12:25:46 GMT -5
but yeah super rough on both of their ends. Even if that girl wasn’t underage, it’s still way out of line. If I found out an unaccompanied minor was at my party, I would make it my nights mission to get her home.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
How many followers do you think Alexa gained after she posted that? I’m not going to jump to Jonah's defense in this situation, but I will make multiple posts questioning why these broads won't just shut their traps!
cant wait to discuss the politics of cancel culture with you IRL AT BONNAROO 2024 <3
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
