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Shitheads aside, Coachella is by far the most scrutinized festival in the US (and possibly the world). Who in their right mind would believe Coachella would try to go on while still in a pandemic with no vaccine widely available? We saw how much Sturgis got roasted. The media would have an absolute field day if Coachella happened with these numbers we have.
On this we agree - And no. The California based Coachella will not be the first back. Obviously.
Post by trantsgiving on Sept 27, 2020 21:37:37 GMT -5
Actual q, what university lets you take over 20 credits a semester? UGA has a limit of 17 and GSU has a limit of 18. I imagine it’s so you have to pay those base fees longer.
Shitheads aside, Coachella is by far the most scrutinized festival in the US (and possibly the world). Who in their right mind would believe Coachella would try to go on while still in a pandemic with no vaccine widely available? We saw how much Sturgis got roasted. The media would have an absolute field day if Coachella happened with these numbers we have.
In fairness this festival keeps trying to book Kanye in the midst of his attempt to get trump re-elected so I’ve lost any sense of what kind of press bothers them.
Shitheads aside, Coachella is by far the most scrutinized festival in the US (and possibly the world). Who in their right mind would believe Coachella would try to go on while still in a pandemic with no vaccine widely available? We saw how much Sturgis got roasted. The media would have an absolute field day if Coachella happened with these numbers we have.
Post by TickleMeElmo on Sept 27, 2020 23:41:31 GMT -5
College credits and grades don’t preclude you from being a complete dipshit. I know lots of doctors who are totally incompetent and absolute morons outside their profession and studies.
College credits and grades don’t preclude you from being a complete dipshit. I know lots of doctors who are totally incompetent and absolute morons outside their profession and studies.
My buddy who is legit brilliant and a doctor and has a MPH thought COVID would be NBD back in March, while myself and my friend who are definitely not doctors knew what was coming because we listened to actual experts. Wild how that works.
Well you heard it from the accountant. It’s safe to go to music festivals again.
Post your bona fides
Actually trying to have an intellectual discussion that goes beyond name calling and generalizations.
I’ve yet to find someone who is an actual intellectual that uses the term “liberal media” unironically. And I don’t think there’s really an intellectual discussion to be had. 200k dead Americans. Completely preventable and if we’d adhered to an actual lockdown with extremely strict federal regulation our economy would be better off. If you don’t think everything about how this was handled is despicable I don’t see any real benefit in “intellectual discussion.”
Actual q, what university lets you take over 20 credits a semester? UGA has a limit of 17 and GSU has a limit of 18. I imagine it’s so you have to pay those base fees longer.
I had to get special dispensation. Met with counselor at the school. Told them situation and that I needed to graduate and work to get health insurance ASAP. They looked at my grades and said as long as you don’t drop below a 3.5 you can do it. Else you have to drop classes
Actually trying to have an intellectual discussion that goes beyond name calling and generalizations.
I’ve yet to find someone who is an actual intellectual that uses the term “liberal media” unironically. And I don’t think there’s really an intellectual discussion to be had. 200k dead Americans. Completely preventable and if we’d adhered to an actual lockdown with extremely strict federal regulation our economy would be better off. If you don’t think everything about how this was handled is despicable I don’t see any real benefit in “intellectual discussion.”
All I did was post that statistically Sturgis ends up being NBD (at the current time) unless someone shows otherwise.
And yes. It’s totally possible that a strict lockdown would have controlled this. I’ve not said otherwise. But we aren’t going to do that
Post by piggy pablo on Sept 28, 2020 1:44:56 GMT -5
Liberal rag Forbes reports that 216 patients have been hospitalized as of yesterday, which is a little over three times as many as were hospitalized when the rally ended.
Cases and hospitalizations are, of course, not the same thing, and those who haven't been hospitalized/are non-symptomatic will be the ones to spread it to others.
Saturday (the 26th) marked a new record-high in cases, with 579 new cases. There were 412 new cases on Sunday, and it's common for new case numbers to decline on Sunday. The state's single-day death record of eight was tied on Thursday.
In any case, it seems pretty clear that people will die who would not have otherwise. The question, then, would be how many deaths are acceptable in order to hold Coachella?
One study, which has drawn criticism as being too much of a worst-case scenario, sure, estimates that around 250,000 people will be infected as a result of the rally. Even ten percent of that would probably mean hundreds dead.
Post by piggy pablo on Sept 28, 2020 1:53:57 GMT -5
Contact tracing in the US is a complete joke, by the way. Contact tracing is for countries where there aren't millions of infected. Contact tracing is for situations where outbreaks are relatively contained. As it stands now, with no universal testing or treatment? Contact tracing is basically worthless.
This basically states that the 260,000 new cases linked to the Sturgis event by the San Diego University is too high. However, John Hopkins University, one of the few sources of information that I believe, does state that the event did case a serious spike in cases.
Researchers at Johns Hopkins University are raising doubts about a study that estimated that a massive motorcycle rally in Sturgis, South Dakota, last month led to more than 260,000 new cases of coronavirus nationwide.
The study, released late last week by four economists associated with the Center for Health Economics and Policy Studies at San Diego State University, also found that the annual event resulted in more than $12 billion in health care costs stemming from the infections.
The study has drawn considerable public attention in part because it seemed to confirm concerns expressed by health officials prior to the rally — which drew nearly 500,000 attendees over 10 days — about the potential risks of such a large gathering. The San Diego center's research also appeared to show a much larger coronavirus outbreak due to the Sturgis event than other sources. The Associated Press reported finding just 290 cases of coronavirus among people who attended the event nationwide.
South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem, who declined to restrict the event despite concerns about spreading the virus, has derided the study as "fiction."
In a paper posted Friday, the Johns Hopkins researchers say the data collected by the San Diego center's economists (who represent three different universities) in fact support one main thrust of the study — that the Sturgis event led to a spike in COVID-19 cases in the county that hosted the rally as well as in surrounding areas.
"The case data show relatively stable trends prior to the event and clear changes around the event, with little reason to believe that the changes in cases could have been caused by anything but the event," the Johns Hopkins researchers write. "The overall conclusions that the Sturgis event caused a large increase in COVID-19 cases and infections are likely to be relatively robust to the specific statistical methodologies used."
Nashville is dealing with a very similar, yet much smaller situation here. Our downtown bars draw a very robust tourist crowd. The bars insist they are not causing a spike in cases. But the majority of these patrons return home in a few days, and there is absolutely no contact tracing that can be done. We have no idea who caught it here riding a pedal bike down Broadway and then took it back home to Hootersville.
All this is to say, the realistic me knows this festival can not happen in April.
I’ll only trust this guy if he got the Elijah Watt Sells award. So, did ya?
Nope just top 10 and only in the state.
Still. Only 300 cases out of Sturgis Max. 461k people. 10 days. Noooooo precautions are all. Easily researchable. I find it an interesting data point for festivals.
Someone cited it as an incident and something to avoid. While it got negative attention for happening at the outset, it turn out that it wasn’t a disaster even though there has been little reporting of it after
I’ll only trust this guy if he got the Elijah Watt Sells award. So, did ya?
Nope just top 10 and only in the state.
Still. Only 300 cases out of Sturgis Max. 461k people. 10 days. Noooooo precautions are all. Easily researchable. I find it an interesting data point for festivals.
Someone cited it as an incident and something to avoid. While it got negative attention for happening at the outset, it turn out that it wasn’t a disaster even though there has been little reporting of it after
300 cases is a fucking lie. The link you posted is almost four weeks old. Go away.
Still. Only 300 cases out of Sturgis Max. 461k people. 10 days. Noooooo precautions are all. Easily researchable. I find it an interesting data point for festivals.
Someone cited it as an incident and something to avoid. While it got negative attention for happening at the outset, it turn out that it wasn’t a disaster even though there has been little reporting of it after
300 cases is a fucking lie. The link you posted is almost four weeks old. Go away.
It also aligns with other articles. And the period symptoms is what 2 weeks? So 4 weeks ago was 3-4 weeks after sturgis
