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Post by potentpotables on Jan 12, 2021 8:43:19 GMT -5
So, how bad is 'bama going to beat Oklahoma in next year's semifinal? And who will win, Ohio State or Clemson? College football is at an inflection point because it's so boring watching the same teams year in-year out and they just happen to be the teams with the $9 million coaches and the ridiculous football facilities.
I keep trying to think whether the BCS would have been better during the playoff period, and I don't think so - I think it's a unique development of the hegemony of the sport that would have made the BCS even more unbearable.
So, how bad is 'bama going to beat Oklahoma in next year's semifinal? And who will win, Ohio State or Clemson? College football is at an inflection point because it's so boring watching the same teams year in-year out and they just happen to be the teams with the $9 million coaches and the ridiculous football facilities.
I keep trying to think whether the BCS would have been better during the playoff period, and I don't think so - I think it's a unique development of the hegemony of the sport that would have made the BCS even more unbearable.
The BCS would have been way better. The other bowl games would still have some meaning, and the battle for two vs. three is far more interesting than the battle for four vs. five.
This isn't that unique in the history of the sport for what it's worth. The only time the sport had legitimate parity was when the SEC didn't recruit black players.
The difference now is that pretty much all of the great football players come from only one part of the country because people in the north don't want their kids to play football anymore. You cannot do much about that, regardless of how much you want to pay the USC, Notre Dame, or Michigan head coach. Those places in the country don't have the talent.
So, how bad is 'bama going to beat Oklahoma in next year's semifinal? And who will win, Ohio State or Clemson? College football is at an inflection point because it's so boring watching the same teams year in-year out and they just happen to be the teams with the $9 million coaches and the ridiculous football facilities.
I keep trying to think whether the BCS would have been better during the playoff period, and I don't think so - I think it's a unique development of the hegemony of the sport that would have made the BCS even more unbearable.
The BCS would have been way better. The other bowl games would still have some meaning, and the battle for two vs. three is far more interesting than the battle for four vs. five.
This isn't that unique in the history of the sport for what it's worth. The only time the sport had legitimate parity was when the SEC didn't recruit black players.
The difference now is that pretty much all of the great football players come from only one part of the country because people in the north don't want their kids to play football anymore. You cannot do much about that, regardless of how much you want to pay the USC, Notre Dame, or Michigan head coach. Those places in the country don't have the talent.
Parity isn't exactly the word I would use, and yeah generally you are right, but anecdotally it feels like the championship was more diverse in the BCS era. Looking at the teams that made a BCS Championship game (using current conferences):
ACC - Florida St, Virginia Tech, Miami Big Ten - Ohio St Big 12 - Texas, Oklahoma SEC - Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Tennessee PAC 12 - USC, Oregon Independent - Notre Dame
Maybe I'm wrong on this. A lot of it could probably be attributed to places like Florida/SC/Texas screwing up head coaching hires and falling behind in infrastructure things.
I was originally against a playoff but the Alabama-LSU title game rematch converted me. I still like the idea, just need a team to step up and be competitive at the top in a few conferences I guess.
The BCS would have been way better. The other bowl games would still have some meaning, and the battle for two vs. three is far more interesting than the battle for four vs. five.
This isn't that unique in the history of the sport for what it's worth. The only time the sport had legitimate parity was when the SEC didn't recruit black players.
The difference now is that pretty much all of the great football players come from only one part of the country because people in the north don't want their kids to play football anymore. You cannot do much about that, regardless of how much you want to pay the USC, Notre Dame, or Michigan head coach. Those places in the country don't have the talent.
Parity isn't exactly the word I would use, and yeah generally you are right, but anecdotally it feels like the championship was more diverse in the BCS era. Looking at the teams that made a BCS Championship game (using current conferences):
ACC - Florida St, Virginia Tech, Miami Big Ten - Ohio St Big 12 - Texas, Oklahoma SEC - Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Tennessee PAC 12 - USC, Oregon Independent - Notre Dame
Maybe I'm wrong on this. A lot of it could probably be attributed to places like Florida/SC/Texas screwing up head coaching hires and falling behind in infrastructure things.
I was originally against a playoff but the Alabama-LSU title game rematch converted me. I still like the idea, just need a team to step up and be competitive at the top in a few conferences I guess.
I think the Florida, USC, and Texas stuff is pretty explainable. Florida has won a couple of titles, but only with Spurrier and Meyer, two of the best ten coaches of all time, maybe five. They aren't really at that elite level.
For USC and Texas, I think both of these schools have become too academically elite to be a real football school. I think about LSU last year, who is the only non-Ohio State/Bama/Clemson team to win in the playoff era, and who was pretty much an underdog story the whole year. This year, we find out that LSU has been covering up sexual assault allegations against players. Both the coaching staff and the administration have been implicated. I believe at this moment, and no one has even been fired yet after this has come to light. I don't think any of those terrible acts would fly at Texas, USC, or Michigan.
If you expand it you're still going to end up with the same 4.
Is this supposed to be a reason not to do it?
Yeah, I think so. Frankly, I don't think people watch CFB for the top 10 teams as much as they watch for their school, and most people's schools aren't that good. Making the bowl games less and less relevant is more of an issue for CFB than if UGA gets to go to the playoff with two losses or not.
Yeah, I think so. Frankly, I don't think people watch CFB for the top 10 teams as much as they watch for their school, and most people's schools aren't that good. Making the bowl games less and less relevant is more of an issue for CFB than if UGA gets to go to the playoff with two losses or not.
Bowl games are already irrelevant. They need to save what they can here.
More playoff teams (plus paying players) would lead to measurably more recruiting parity. Flattening the talent pool would not only make the games between the top teams actually watchable, but could make the regular season games more winnable for all the other teams.
I feel like every season the #5 team usually is good enough to get a shot. Sure the results may end up being similar but I think it could lead to some amazing first round games.
Yeah, I think so. Frankly, I don't think people watch CFB for the top 10 teams as much as they watch for their school, and most people's schools aren't that good. Making the bowl games less and less relevant is more of an issue for CFB than if UGA gets to go to the playoff with two losses or not.
Bowl games are already irrelevant. They need to save what they can here.
More playoff teams (plus paying players) would lead to measurably more recruiting parity. Flattening the talent pool would not only make the games between the top teams actually watchable, but could make the regular season games more winnable for all the other teams.
the only way to flatten the talent pool is paying players in a true free for all, in a way that I think would be pretty difficult to meet title IX
Post by Lawn Gnome on Jan 12, 2021 11:13:48 GMT -5
Not to take away from Alabama and its fans, they were that good this year, but the playoff is the least interesting component of CFB, IMO, for the average fan. It's the same teams every year and the games are typically not that close. The CFB season is still the one of the best regular seasons in sports, but the playoff needs some work, and I don't have a good suggestion for what that would look like.
Post by Dave Maynar on Jan 12, 2021 13:13:27 GMT -5
Tennessee hires Kevin Steele. No official news on what position he's filling. Nobody knows what's going on with the program anymore. It's amazing to watch.
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