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Post by thepiratepenguin on Aug 2, 2021 12:31:16 GMT -5
I tend to opt for a disposable mask when outdoors just because of the weight of my cloth masks. I haven't gone jogging in years, but I understand why joggers don't wear them.
I now plan on wearing a mask at outdoor shows in the fall (assuming they still happen), whereas initially I only planned it for indoor shows.
All the people that came up to me and talked shit about masks during the fair, were people that had gotten it or family members had. They blow it off like it wasn't that bad, and now they have antibodies. They don't care that the antibodies of one variant won't protect you from a different variant because this is overblown anyway.
I think we are going to be dealing with various variants of this moving forward.
Post by jorgeandthekraken on Aug 2, 2021 12:48:55 GMT -5
Indoors, I am 100% still masking. I don't have my first indoor show until 10/12, and who the hell knows what the landscape will look like at that point? At this stage, I'm prepared to be masked the whole time, assuming it happens at all. We'll see how it goes.
Outdoors is a little trickier. Given my wife's situation, we're being a little more cautious, so we wore masks most of the time this past weekend when we saw Bright Eyes at Forest Hills Stadium. I don't find a KN95 that uncomfortable to wear for an extended period of time, so that's what I did, pulling it down only to drink my beer. Elsewhere in the stadium, I wore it any time there were close quarters (bathroom, staircases, etc.) or any time I was standing still around a lot of people (vending lines). In motion in wide-open space, I didn't sweat it as much.
I'm definitely bringing both KN95 and N95 masks to Bonnaroo. The latter will be for anything indoors or very closely approximating indoors. The former will probably be for crowds outside, although if I'm being honest, I don't know that there won't be a time during the weekend when I kind of chuck caution to the wind, especially if I'm in any sort of elevated mental state. I guess we'll also see how that goes.
I just got an email from the folks that run my Moderna vaccine trial. A lot of people in the trial have reached out about booster shots. They are working with the teams at NIH and Moderna and will keep us updated on when a booster is available.
I’ll volunteer to be the booster guinea pig.
Edit-because I want to turn this thing back around. Got it got.
The mayor announced all city employees and private sector employees serving high risk populations (first responders, hospital workers, nursing homes, etc) have to be vaxxed by September 30. I’m pleasantly surprised he’s enforcing it for private sector workers as well.
UT Knoxville requiring masks indoors for the fall semester.
Wow!
Everyone on the indoor track at my community center is masked. I’m so proud of them. I think it may be sinking in that we are truly fucked if we don’t.
And fwiw, the paper masks are excellent for sweaty situations. I save Vieux’s cloth masks for indoors.
UT Knoxville requiring masks indoors for the fall semester.
Wow!
Everyone on the indoor track at my community center is masked. I’m so proud of them. I think it may be sinking in that we are truly fucked if we don’t.
And fwiw, the paper masks are excellent for sweaty situations. I save Vieux ’s cloth masks for indoors.
See, as a vaccinator, I have some serious concerns here. Like WHERE do you give this shot? He’s gonna have to take that get up off. Then the shot, then a lollipop.
So Louisiana is apparently the highest in the country. We are up to 13% and starting Wednesday, the mask mandate is back in place (until Sept 1). But our unemployment funding, he cut on July 31. Only 30% of our state is vaccinated. I am so disappointed.
Edit: this press conference/covid update is fucking depressing. 😭
Friend of mine’s preschool teacher was fully vaccinated and had a breakthrough infection. This is Texas so no masks in the classroom. Two kids in the class got it from the teacher and are now hospitalized.
Japanese Breakfast will require either proof of vaccination or COVID test for the rest of her US tour. Unclear on some states, like TX, where it’s illegal to require that.
Japanese Breakfast will require either proof of vaccination or COVID test for the rest of her US tour. Unclear on some states, like TX, where it’s illegal to require that.
Japanese Breakfast will require either proof of vaccination or COVID test for the rest of her US tour. Unclear on some states, like TX, where it’s illegal to require that.
Good. Artists/Bands/Venues, restaurants, businesses, airlines, and so on should all be requiring this. Enough bullsh*t...It's maddening that we didn't do this from the start, since it seemed perfectly clear that the Repubs/antivax crowd would not fall in line (since they haven't done a damn thing right every step of the way in this pandemic).
Japanese Breakfast will require either proof of vaccination or COVID test for the rest of her US tour. Unclear on some states, like TX, where it’s illegal to require that.
Good. Artists/Bands/Venues, restaurants, businesses, airlines, and so on should all be requiring this. Enough bullsh*t...It's maddening that we didn't do this from the start, since it seemed perfectly clear that the Repubs/antivax crowd would not fall in line (since they haven't done a damn thing right every step of the way in this pandemic).
stubbs will probably be fine w/o her playing but idk a bunch of the venues in TX were barely hanging on, standing up to prove a point could end up setting the scene back significantly.
I wouldn't really hold it against the venues because they're in such a shit position.
Good. Artists/Bands/Venues, restaurants, businesses, airlines, and so on should all be requiring this. Enough bullsh*t...It's maddening that we didn't do this from the start, since it seemed perfectly clear that the Repubs/antivax crowd would not fall in line (since they haven't done a damn thing right every step of the way in this pandemic).
stubbs will probably be fine w/o her playing but idk a bunch of the venues in TX were barely hanging on, standing up to prove a point could end up setting the scene back significantly.
I wouldn't really hold it against the venues because they're in such a shit position.
They will likely just require a COVID test. Don’t think it’s against the TX law to require that.
stubbs will probably be fine w/o her playing but idk a bunch of the venues in TX were barely hanging on, standing up to prove a point could end up setting the scene back significantly.
I wouldn't really hold it against the venues because they're in such a shit position.
They will likely just require a COVID test. Don’t think it’s against the TX law to require that.
just going to go ahead and get our shit laminated for ACL/Levi, but this is also a Strait year so we'll see on that one
Came across these Reddit threads through the Bob Lefsetz blog. Doesn't bode well for all forthcoming fall tours, and seems to corroborate what that earlier tweet was saying about Live Nation not giving a fuck.
In India — where the Delta variant was first identified and caused a huge outbreak — cases have plunged over the past two months. A similar drop may now be underway in Britain. There is no clear explanation for these declines.
In the U.S., cases started falling rapidly in early January. The decline began before vaccination was widespread and did not follow any evident changes in Americans’ Covid attitudes.
In March and April, the Alpha variant helped cause a sharp rise in cases in the upper Midwest and Canada. That outbreak seemed poised to spread to the rest of North America — but did not.
This spring, caseloads were not consistently higher in parts of the U.S. that had relaxed masking and social distancing measures (like Florida and Texas) than in regions that remained vigilant.
Large parts of Africa and Asia still have not experienced outbreaks as big as those in Europe, North America and South America.
How do we solve these mysteries? Michael Osterholm, who runs an infectious disease research center at the University of Minnesota, suggests that people keep in mind one overriding idea: humility.
“We’ve ascribed far too much human authority over the virus,” he told me.
‘Much, much milder’ Over the course of this pandemic, I have found one of my early assumptions especially hard to shake. It’s one that many other people seem to share — namely, that a virus always keeps spreading, eventually infecting almost the entire population, unless human beings take actions to stop it. And this idea does have crucial aspects of truth. Social distancing and especially vaccination can save lives.
But much of the ebb and flow of a pandemic cannot be explained by changes in human behavior. That was true with influenza a century ago, and it is true with Covid now. An outbreak often fizzles mysteriously, like a forest fire that fails to jump from one patch of trees to another.
Even Osterholm said that he had assumed the spring surge would spread from Michigan and his home state of Minnesota to the entire U.S. It did not. It barely spread to nearby Iowa and Ohio. Whatever the reasons, the pattern shows that the mental model many of us have — in which only human intervention can have a major effect on caseloads — is wrong.
Britain has become another example. The Delta variant is even more contagious than Alpha, and it seemed as though it might infect every unvaccinated British resident after it began spreading in May. Some experts predicted that the number of daily cases would hit 200,000, more than three times the country’s previous peak. Instead, cases peaked — for now — around 47,000, before falling below 30,000 this week.
“The current Delta wave in the U.K. is turning out to be much, much milder than we anticipated,” wrote David Mackie, J.P. Morgan’s chief European economist.
True, you can find plenty of supposed explanations, including the end of the European soccer tournament, the timing of school vacations and Britain’s notoriously late-arriving summer weather, as Mark Landler, The Times’s London bureau chief, has noted. But none of the explanations seem nearly big enough to explain the decline, especially when you consider that India has also experienced a boom and bust in caseloads. India, of course, did not play in Europe’s soccer championship and is not known for cool June weather.
‘Rip through’ A more plausible explanation appears to be that Delta spreads very quickly at first and, for some unknown set of reasons, peters out long before a society has reached herd immunity. As Andy Slavitt, a former Covid adviser to President Biden, told me, “It seems to rip through really fast and infect the people it’s going to infect.” The most counterintuitive idea here is that an outbreak can fade even though many people remain vulnerable to Covid.
That’s not guaranteed to happen everywhere, and there probably will be more variants after Delta. Remember: Covid behaves in mysterious ways. But Americans should not assume that Delta is destined to cause months of rising caseloads. Nor should they assume that a sudden decline, if one starts this summer, fits a tidy narrative that attributes the turnaround to rising vaccination and mask wearing.
“These surges have little to do with what humans do,” Osterholm argues. “Only recently, with vaccines, have we begun to have a real impact.”
No need for nihilism I don’t want anyone to think that Osterholm is making a nihilist argument. Human responses do make a difference: Masks and social distancing can slow the spread of the virus, and vaccination can end a pandemic.
The most important step has been the vaccination of many older people. As a result, total British deaths have risen only modestly this summer, while deaths and hospitalizations remain rarer in heavily vaccinated parts of the U.S. than in less vaccinated ones.
But Osterholm’s plea for humility does have policy implications. It argues for prioritizing vaccination over every other strategy. It also reminds us to avoid believing that we can always know which behaviors create risks.
That lesson has particular relevance to schools. Many of the Covid rules that school districts are enacting seem overly confident about what matters, Osterholm told me. Ventilation seems helpful, and masking children may be. Yet reopening schools unavoidably involves risk. The alternative — months more of lost learning and social isolation — almost certainly involves more risk and greater costs to children. Fortunately, school employees and teenagers can be vaccinated, and severe childhood Covid remains extremely rare.
We are certainly not powerless in the face of Covid. We can reduce its risks, just as we can reduce the risks from driving, biking, swimming and many other everyday activities. But we cannot eliminate them. “We’re not in nearly as much control as we think are,” Osterholm said.
I'm usually too scared to check this thread, but great read.
I start work full time tomorrow on a new TV show. Get tested today. I'm slightly terrified going back to work, but they just implemented N95 mask daily distributed/wearing at all times, which is a huge relief.
(Side note) I'm the lead construction buyer for the whole show, which is huge for me.
Japanese Breakfast will require either proof of vaccination or COVID test for the rest of her US tour. Unclear on some states, like TX, where it’s illegal to require that.
Good. Artists/Bands/Venues, restaurants, businesses, airlines, and so on should all be requiring this. Enough bullsh*t...It's maddening that we didn't do this from the start, since it seemed perfectly clear that the Repubs/antivax crowd would not fall in line (since they haven't done a damn thing right every step of the way in this pandemic).