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I just got the diagnosis that a person never wants to hear. My medical team, who are awesome, are trying to get me scheduled immediately for a hysterectomy. Then we can determine how much the cancer has spread, if it all, and talk to the oncologist about chemo or radiation. Hopefully to save my life.
Damn.
Hoping for the best for you, that it doesn't spread and you can fight it off.
Thanks, LD. I appreciate that. I didn't mean to hijack the thread. I'm not too worried right now. I have a good medical team and since the surgery is even an option, that's a good sign.
Just frustrated with all the stress this past year and a half.
Blaming minorities for your own anti-vax agenda is some mind-bending I haven't seen in a while. I mean I love the care for minorities but I'd put it at all of the non-Western people who haven't gotten it because Western countries refuse to push Big Pharma to release the patents on the vaccines so those countries can start producing them for themselves. What a ride man.
I just got the diagnosis that a person never wants to hear. My medical team, who are awesome, are trying to get me scheduled immediately for a hysterectomy. Then we can determine how much the cancer has spread, if it all, and talk to the oncologist about chemo or radiation. Hopefully to save my life. But some people are afraid of a vaccine. Some people are really young and haven't faced some really frightening health issues. Dealt with the pain and symptoms and the endless procedures and bloodwork and doctor visits and now, a surgery. But some people are afraid of vaccine or too stupid to care. Maybe it's naive. Maybe it's hubris.
I find it so frustrating that people won't get the vaccine but as soon as they're sick and scared, they'll run to the doctors for help, which is what you should do, but then why are you taking it for granted? Why is one treatment acceptable or not the other preventative? I don't take anything for granted anymore after looking at death for 2 years now, with a deadly virus raging everywhere, with my Mom almost dying last year (doctors and medicine saved her) and now my own life has a big looming ? above it. I don't pick and choose what my doctors tell me. I have cancer. I have to do what they say. I don't get to bargain my way out this. I just hope that I don't contract covid while I'm in the hospital. That would just be a-fucking-fantastic.
There are worst things out there than a vaccine. We're all dependent upon modern science and medicine to save us. There are no "buts" about it.
I am so sorry. Hoping for a good outcome with the surgery and that you don't need radiation or chemo. Keep us posted on how you are doing.
Post by piggy pablo on Aug 28, 2021 18:00:40 GMT -5
On the topic of boosters, am I correctly interpreting the current CDC guidance to mean that non-immunocompromised people probably don't need one? They currently do not recommend it.
I understand getting it/wanting to get it, and I'm not faulting anyone for that. I would too when it came available to me if I weren't in the immune deficient group. Just pointing out that the two-shot regimen is effective for most people and, while you can get the virus, you're still going to be very well-protected.
On the topic of boosters, am I correctly interpreting the current CDC guidance to mean that non-immunocompromised people probably don't need one? They currently do not recommend it.
I understand getting it/wanting to get it, and I'm not faulting anyone for that. I would too when it came available to me if I weren't in the immune deficient group. Just pointing out that the two-shot regimen is effective for most people and, while you can get the virus, you're still going to be very well-protected.
I believe that they're recommending a booster for J&J folks after 9/20.
On the topic of boosters, am I correctly interpreting the current CDC guidance to mean that non-immunocompromised people probably don't need one? They currently do not recommend it.
I understand getting it/wanting to get it, and I'm not faulting anyone for that. I would too when it came available to me if I weren't in the immune deficient group. Just pointing out that the two-shot regimen is effective for most people and, while you can get the virus, you're still going to be very well-protected.
I believe that they're recommending a booster for J&J folks after 9/20.
They say it is likely going to be the case that a booster shot will be necessary but that because it was administered starting a couple months after the other two vaccines they need to acquire more data before they make a rec.
I believe that they're recommending a booster for J&J folks after 9/20.
They say it is likely going to be the case that a booster shot will be necessary but that because it was administered starting a couple months after the other two vaccines they need to acquire more data before they make a rec.
Reading through all that bs is making me wish I never made this thread
This thread and everyone sharing their experiences and knowledge and perspectives from different parts of the country has helped to keep me sane during the pandemic. It's helped me so much.
On the topic of boosters, am I correctly interpreting the current CDC guidance to mean that non-immunocompromised people probably don't need one? They currently do not recommend it.
I understand getting it/wanting to get it, and I'm not faulting anyone for that. I would too when it came available to me if I weren't in the immune deficient group. Just pointing out that the two-shot regimen is effective for most people and, while you can get the virus, you're still going to be very well-protected.
I believe that they're recommending a booster for J&J folks after 9/20.
ive seen studies that actually indicate 8 months of strong immunity from J&J while more like 6-7 from Pfizer and Moderna.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Reading through all that bs is making me wish I never made this thread
The encouragement i got from others here and the advice I got from Druid in this thread were really helpful when I was sick. I’m glad it exists.
yeah I was mainly being sarcastic, it would definitely have been made by someone else if I didn’t. Just insane thinking back to my last week actually being on campus, and making that post in class when I heard Ultra was canned. never would have imagined this would be a multi year issue back then.
They're holding my vax card until my waiting period is up, so I can't escape.
How were your side effects compared to the second shot? My mom got the Pfizer booster, which hit her pretty hard when she got the second shot, and the booster really knocked her down for a day and a half. Still totally worth it, of course.
They're holding my vax card until my waiting period is up, so I can't escape.
How were your side effects compared to the second shot? My mom got the Pfizer booster, which hit her pretty hard when she got the second shot, and the booster really knocked her down for a day and a half. Still totally worth it, of course.
I haven't felt anything this time. The injection site isn't even sore. It's weird. Second dose I got chills and body aches.
My second cousin’s wife posted some bullshit about a guy screaming at a school board meeting saying how putting masks on kids is liking making them wear a muzzle. I told her the video was ignorant and she went ballistic on me. Lol She said “many drs and nurses agree with her”, to which I responded “hahahahahahahaha”. Basically the conversation ended with me unfriending her bc she told me I was rude and shouldn’t be a teacher bc GOD FORBID I WANT TO KEEP MY STUDENTS ALIVE.
For so long I’ve lived under the cloud that you forgive family no matter what but at this point I’m done being nice about willful ignorance and self service.
worth reading the whole thing, it's not long, but the basic points are:
-the idea of waning immunity is mostly based on Israeli data, showing people who were vaccinated in the winter are more likely to be catching the virus now than people who were vaccinated in the spring. but these two groups are too different to make a clean comparison. the winter group were more likely to be affluent, and thus more likely to resume travelling and exposing themselves to additional risk.
-we are not seeing a faster rise in covid cases from older people, who were also the first group to get vaccinated in the winter
-incentives. pfizer/moderna have incentive to promote boosters because profits. The CDC and FDA historically are extremely cautious and are thus more likely to promote boosters to protect americans (not a bad thing IMO, just saying). And media, of course, has a bad news bias. headlines like "vaccine dont work any more" get clicks.
bottom line is booster shots at this point in time may not add much more protection, simply because the original vaccine doses are probably still working. no harm in getting a booster though IMO, just saying we should still have confidence in the original jabs we got earlier this year.
ive seen studies that actually indicate 8 months of strong immunity from J&J while more like 6-7 from Pfizer and Moderna.
So much is unclear right now.
Let's hope so. I got mine eight months ago!!!
lol. I just got mu first dose last week. The rollout here has been WILDLY different than there.
Jack still hasn’t gotten his at all. He’s waiting for Pfizer Bc the gov here did a whole scare campaign around Astra Zeneca. I got AZ Bc they’re saying they won’t let us out of lockdown till we reach 80% double vaccinated in NSW.
lol. I just got mu first dose last week. The rollout here has been WILDLY different than there.
Jack still hasn’t gotten his at all. He’s waiting for Pfizer Bc the gov here did a whole scare campaign around Astra Zeneca. I got AZ Bc they’re saying they won’t let us out of lockdown till we reach 80% double vaccinated in NSW.
lol. I just got mu first dose last week. The rollout here has been WILDLY different than there.
Jack still hasn’t gotten his at all. He’s waiting for Pfizer Bc the gov here did a whole scare campaign around Astra Zeneca. I got AZ Bc they’re saying they won’t let us out of lockdown till we reach 80% double vaccinated in NSW.
Lmao what, that's insane.
Actually, that's the kind of thing you can do when you live in a (at least marginally) more sane society than the good ol' US of A.
Actually, that's the kind of thing you can do when you live in a (at least marginally) more sane society than the good ol' US of A.
I'm glad we got rid of lockdown-esk type of rules when vaccination rates started going up and hospital numbers down, cause it's just a good means to implement authoritarian policies. Setting up a target may have the effect that people will stop taking precautions (masking, socially distancing etc.) when those are finally met. Now we do have met that rate by a wide-marging, though a delta-outbreak can still happen (mostly because children aren't vaccinated yet).
When can I leave my house? In Victoria, you cannot leave your home unless it is for one of five approved reasons – similar to previous lockdowns.
The reasons are: shopping for essentials; authorised work, if you cannot work from home, or education; exercise for up to two hours; caregiving, compassionate and medical reasons; and to get vaccinated.
Essential workers who can’t work from home will need to get a permit to go to work from 11.59pm Tuesday 17 August.
Can I go out at night? A curfew has been reintroduced, meaning people in greater Melbourne must stay home between 9pm and 5am.
How long will the lockdown last? The lockdown in Melbourne was initially extended until 18 August, but as local transmission continues, it has been extended until 11.59pm Thursday 2 September.
How far can I travel from home? For shopping and exercise in Victoria, you need to stay within a 5km radius of your home.
In my city, I watched small business after small business absolutely crippled by lockdown restrictions, and that was in Florida of all places where we only locked down for about a month. Granted, many survived. As a small business owner myself, it really depressed me to watch as restaurants, thrift stores, media stores, and others died out, all while mega corporations like Amazon, Walmart, etc. thrived.
Does this prompt adjacent discussions about maintaining a healthy stream of business capital and a looming threat of mega corporations swallowing small business in threatening marketing conditions? Yes.
But in Florida, we are only just now going through our worst COVID wave yet, and it seems directly tied to the delta variant plus lagging vaccinations causing mostly the unvaccinated getting sick. Our previous peaks were rough, but local mask mandates seemed to play a huge role in mitigating the brutal numbers seen in spots like New York City, Iran, etc.
Do lockdowns such as these truly make that significant of a difference? I'm all for mask mandates, social distancing, and other countermeasures. But these far-reaching lockdowns arbitrarily tied to a date and a possibly unrealistic goal of 80 percent vaccinated (although, I'm not sure how vaccine hesitant other countries are) disturb me more than they give me confidence. I'd love to read your thoughts about this, as your posts and analyses have given me much clarity throughout this pandemic.
How were your side effects compared to the second shot? My mom got the Pfizer booster, which hit her pretty hard when she got the second shot, and the booster really knocked her down for a day and a half. Still totally worth it, of course.
I haven't felt anything this time. The injection site isn't even sore. It's weird. Second dose I got chills and body aches.
Woke up with sore arm at the injection site and some very mild aches, so I did get a little reaction. Nothing too serious.
We've had two lockdowns; march-june 2020 and october 2020 - january 2021, the second one was met with a curfew which didn't make sense one bit cause it still made people meet up but not anymore on public places and just earlier, but it didn't have the authoritarian rules of the first lockdown where you couldn't leave your house in the parameter of a bunch of kilometers where police litteraly used to check where you lived and/or where you worked. Media used to criticize and laugh at 'those filthy communists' in China, but a lot of the same policies were implemented here and in a lot of other Western places, sometimes for the better sometimes in such a way, it was ridiculous.
Short term-wise, lockdowns have had their positive impact for to contain the virus quickly, but on long term it made businesses strangle to death. The govt tried to help in the second lockdown (especially for restaurants and bars who were closed for a very long time as was the event sector) via some kind of aid that gave them (varied per sector) a certain percentage based on the gains they used to have.
When can I leave my house? In Victoria, you cannot leave your home unless it is for one of five approved reasons – similar to previous lockdowns.
The reasons are: shopping for essentials; authorised work, if you cannot work from home, or education; exercise for up to two hours; caregiving, compassionate and medical reasons; and to get vaccinated.
Essential workers who can’t work from home will need to get a permit to go to work from 11.59pm Tuesday 17 August.
Can I go out at night? A curfew has been reintroduced, meaning people in greater Melbourne must stay home between 9pm and 5am.
How long will the lockdown last? The lockdown in Melbourne was initially extended until 18 August, but as local transmission continues, it has been extended until 11.59pm Thursday 2 September.
How far can I travel from home? For shopping and exercise in Victoria, you need to stay within a 5km radius of your home.
In my city, I watched small business after small business absolutely crippled by lockdown restrictions, and that was in Florida of all places where we only locked down for about a month. Granted, many survived. As a small business owner myself, it really depressed me to watch as restaurants, thrift stores, media stores, and others died out, all while mega corporations like Amazon, Walmart, etc. thrived.
Does this prompt adjacent discussions about maintaining a healthy stream of business capital and a looming threat of mega corporations swallowing small business in threatening marketing conditions? Yes.
But in Florida, we are only just now going through our worst COVID wave yet, and it seems directly tied to the delta variant plus lagging vaccinations causing mostly the unvaccinated getting sick. Our previous peaks were rough, but local mask mandates seemed to play a huge role in mitigating the brutal numbers seen in spots like New York City, Iran, etc.
Do lockdowns such as these truly make that significant of a difference? I'm all for mask mandates, social distancing, and other countermeasures. But these far-reaching lockdowns arbitrarily tied to a date and a possibly unrealistic goal of 80 percent vaccinated (although, I'm not sure how vaccine hesitant other countries are) disturb me more than they give me confidence. I'd love to read your thoughts about this, as your posts and analyses have given me much clarity throughout this pandemic.
a big difference between lockdowns in the US and lockdowns in other countries is that the businesses we covered and workers were paid so that neither really lost everything. some still struggled but that majority of both were able to survive the lockdowns. in the US not everyone qualified for government assistance so it was much more of a hardship.
Just got this from Moderna. They are scheduling those of us in the clinical trial for boosters.
While the efficacy of the mRNA 1273 has been shown to be maintained through 6 months, the emergence of new variants of concerns has led the field to consider the need for boosters. Clinical data is available which shows that immediately following vaccination, antibodies are produced which neutralize several variants of concern in addition to the original SARS-CoV-2 strain. At 6 months however, while antibodies to the original strain are detectable, those for some of the variants are reduced. The data also show that provision of another dose of the mRNA 1273 vaccine boosts the responses to the original strain as well as the variants.
Big Pharma? Don't know, don't care. Going to get it.