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Got a sore throat a week before Christmas which turned into some mild congestion that cleared up a few days later. Three negative tests before Christmas. Then my fiance came down with something similar and tested positive from a test Monday but she's feeling pretty much fine now. I re-tested negative yesterday. Stuck on our couch again this NYE despite both of us being vaccinated and boosted. 😑
My fiance tested negative this morning. Gonna re-test myself this afternoon but I feel fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Got a sore throat a week before Christmas which turned into some mild congestion that cleared up a few days later. Three negative tests before Christmas. Then my fiance came down with something similar and tested positive from a test Monday but she's feeling pretty much fine now. I re-tested negative yesterday. Stuck on our couch again this NYE despite both of us being vaccinated and boosted. 😑
My fiance tested negative this morning. Gonna re-test myself this afternoon but I feel fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Smoke 'em if you got 'em!
So my sister (a nurse) had a breakthrough case after Christmas, but the rest of my fam is still trucking along fine...Both parents tested, and their results came back negative. My sis is feeling pretty good for the most part, just seems like a normal head cold to her...But yeah, our local numbers are skyrocketing again, although hospital numbers aren't too bad. I agree that the metrics used to track cases will need to shift soon, since the super-majority of peeps getting it aren't having to obtain hospital care. But with numbers this high, some hospitals in various regions are being overwhelmed again. And unfortunately with medical staff being sidelined more than ever due to testing for COVID, being exposed, or leaving the profession, our overall healthcare system is being pushed to the max. Here's hoping it continues to hold, bend, but not break.
A crazy number but also the holiday backlog probably contributed a bit to it being so high. Still scary considering only a fraction of those that actually have covid are included in the number since so many people are either testing at home or not at all.
these massive case numbers to me are really a sign to move toward a stratification of the hospitalization numbers to the "hospitalized due to COVID" and "hospitalized with COVID".
with 1M cases reported, I dont think its insane to say that there were maybe over 2M cases yesterday. the fact that we dont really have a great way of tracking how many of that 2M are vaccinated people who ended up in a hospital due only to COVID is a public health mistake
I've read before that for every case that's documented, there's about 4-5 that won't be. And that only is worse without adequate testing. So we're looking abut 4 or 5 million people infected every day right now.
these massive case numbers to me are really a sign to move toward a stratification of the hospitalization numbers to the "hospitalized due to COVID" and "hospitalized with COVID".
with 1M cases reported, I dont think its insane to say that there were maybe over 2M cases yesterday. the fact that we dont really have a great way of tracking how many of that 2M are vaccinated people who ended up in a hospital due only to COVID is a public health mistake
I've read before that for every case that's documented, there's about 4-5 that won't be. And that only is worse without adequate testing. So we're looking abut 4 or 5 million people infected every day right now.
I think the consensus has been that the higher the test positivity rate the higher multiple to get to actual cases from positive tests and the test positivity rate is crazy high everywhere right now. Scott Gottlieb suggests there might be 10x more actual cases than positive tests right now.
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I've read before that for every case that's documented, there's about 4-5 that won't be. And that only is worse without adequate testing. So we're looking abut 4 or 5 million people infected every day right now.
I think the consensus has been that the higher the test positivity rate the higher multiple to get to actual cases from positive tests and the test positivity rate is crazy high everywhere right now. Scott Gottlieb suggests there might be 10x more actual cases than positive tests right now.
Right so 4-5X is with good testing. So yea 10X is probably true right now.
Virologists I follow on Twitter say not to freak about this. It was first clocked in October, and is only getting coverage now because a preprint about it just got uploaded. It hasn’t shown an ability so far to outcompete Delta or Omicron.
Virologists I follow on Twitter say not to freak about this. It was first clocked in October, and is only getting coverage now because a preprint about it just got uploaded. It hasn’t shown an ability so far to outcompete Delta or Omicron.
Yup, was just going to say that exact thing. i feel better now haha
good news in the NYT from David Leonhardt. what we suspected early on with omicron turns out to be true. doesn't attack the lungs like previous variants.
hospital overcrowding still a problem just because so many people are catching it now. still overall very good news.
good news in the NYT from David Leonhardt. what we suspected early on with omicron turns out to be true. doesn't attack the lungs like previous variants.
hospital overcrowding still a problem just because so many people are catching it now. still overall very good news.
this is what i thought, the hospitals being overwhelmed is almost entirely due to the large unvaxxed population. we’ll have to see how the hospitalizations look later this month now that the superspreader holidays are over
good news in the NYT from David Leonhardt. what we suspected early on with omicron turns out to be true. doesn't attack the lungs like previous variants.
hospital overcrowding still a problem just because so many people are catching it now. still overall very good news.
Anyone want to help me get past the paywall with a copy/paste?
I'm glad it appears to be milder but still worried for all the kids too young for the vaccine
good news in the NYT from David Leonhardt. what we suspected early on with omicron turns out to be true. doesn't attack the lungs like previous variants.
hospital overcrowding still a problem just because so many people are catching it now. still overall very good news.
Anyone want to help me get past the paywall with a copy/paste?
I'm glad it appears to be milder but still worried for all the kids too young for the vaccine
EDIT: sorry for poor formatting:
The details of the Omicron variant are becoming clearer, and they are encouraging.
They’re not entirely encouraging, and I will get into some detail about one of the biggest problems — the stress on hospitals, which are facing huge numbers of moderately ill Covid-19 patients. But regular readers of this newsletter know that I try to avoid the bad-news bias that often infects journalism. (We journalists tend to be comfortable delivering bad news straight up but uncomfortable reporting good news without extensive caveats.)
So I want to be clear: The latest evidence about Covid is largely positive. A few weeks ago, many experts and journalists were warning that the initial evidence from South Africa — suggesting that Omicron was milder than other variants — might turn out to be a mirage. It has turned out to be real.
“In hospitals around the country, doctors are taking notice,” my colleagues Emily Anthes and Azeen Ghorayshi write. “This wave of Covid seems different from the last one.”
There are at least three main ways that Omicron looks substantially milder than other versions of the virus:
1. Less hospitalization
Somebody infected with Omicron is less likely to need hospital treatment than somebody infected with an earlier version of Covid.
An analysis of patients in Houston, for example, found that Omicron patients were only about one-third as likely to need hospitalization as Delta patients. In Britain, people with Omicron were about half as likely to require hospital care, the government reported. The pattern looks similar in Canada, Emily and Azeen note.
Hospitalizations are nonetheless rising in the U.S., because Omicron is so contagious that it has led to an explosion of cases. Many hospitals are running short of beds and staff, partly because of Covid-related absences. In Maryland, more people are hospitalized with Covid than ever.
“Thankfully the Covid patients aren’t as sick. But there’s so many of them,” Craig Spencer, an emergency room doctor in New York, tweeted on Monday, after a long shift. “The next few weeks will be really, really tough for us.”
The biggest potential problem is that overwhelmed hospitals will not be able to provide patients — whether they have Covid or other conditions — with straightforward but needed care. Some may die as a result. That possibility explains why many epidemiologists still urge people to take measures to reduce Covid’s spread during the Omicron surge. It’s likely to last at least a couple more weeks in the U.S.
2. Milder hospitalization
Omicron is not just less likely to send somebody to the hospital. Even among people who need hospital care, symptoms are milder on average than among people who were hospitalized in previous waves.
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As Dr. Rahul Sharma of NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell told The Times, “We’re not sending as many patients to the I.C.U., we’re not intubating as many patients, and actually, most of our patients that are coming to the emergency department that do test positive are actually being discharged.”
In London, the number of patients on ventilators has remained roughly constant in recent weeks, even as the number of cases has soared, John Burn-Murdoch of The Financial Times noted.
3. And deaths?
In the U.S., mortality trends typically trail case trends by about three weeks — which means the Omicron surge, which began more than a month ago, should be visible in the death counts. It isn’t yet:
Covid deaths will still probably rise in the U.S. in coming days or weeks, many experts say. For one thing, data can be delayed around major holidays. For another, millions of adults remain unvaccinated and vulnerable.
But the increase in deaths is unlikely to be anywhere near as large as the increase last summer, during the Delta wave. Look at the data from South Africa, where the Omicron wave is already receding:
Given the combination of surging cases and milder disease, how should people respond?
Dr. Leana Wen, Baltimore’s former health commissioner, wrote a helpful Washington Post article in which she urged a middle path between reinstituting lockdowns and allowing Omicron to spread unchecked.
“It’s unreasonable to ask vaccinated people to refrain from pre-pandemic activities,” Wen said. “After all, the individual risk to them is low, and there is a steep price to keeping students out of school, shuttering restaurants and retail shops and stopping travel and commerce.”
But she urged people to get booster shots, recommended that they wear KN95 or N95 masks and encouraged governments and businesses to mandate vaccination. All of those measures can reduce the spread of Covid and, by extension, hospital crowding and death.
What about elderly or immunocompromised people, who have been at some risk of major Covid illness even if they’re vaccinated?
Consider this: Before Omicron, a typical vaccinated 75-year-old who contracted Covid had a roughly similar risk of death — around 1 in 200 — as a typical 75-year-old who contracted the flu. (Here are the details behind that calculation, which is based on an academic study.)
Omicron has changed the calculation. Because it is milder than earlier versions of the virus, Covid now appears to present less threat to most vaccinated elderly people than the annual flu does.
The flu, of course, does present risk for the elderly. And the sheer size of the Omicron surge may argue for caution over the next few weeks. But the combination of vaccines and Omicron’s apparent mildness means that, for an individual, Covid increasingly resembles the kind of health risk that people accept every day.
So if I catch covid, it is because when I got tested today, apparently the nurse was not changing out gloves in between people. So who knows how many other people's germs/viruses were on the gloves that held the swab that went up my nose. Fun times. Love this timeline. Love covid. Go team.
7 days later still testing positive, no symptoms (even the mild sore throat went away). CDC 5 day is bullshit. How long until I can rejoin society again?
7 days later still testing positive, no symptoms (even the mild sore throat went away). CDC 5 day is bullshit. How long until I can rejoin society again?
positive with a rapid or a PCR. PCR could stay positive for 3 months
7 days later still testing positive, no symptoms (even the mild sore throat went away). CDC 5 day is bullshit. How long until I can rejoin society again?
positive with a rapid or a PCR. PCR could stay positive for 3 months
7 days later still testing positive, no symptoms (even the mild sore throat went away). CDC 5 day is bullshit. How long until I can rejoin society again?
10 days 3 for you
f You Test Positive for COVID-19 (Isolate)
Everyone, regardless of vaccination status.
Stay home for 5 days.
If you have no symptoms or your symptoms are resolving after 5 days, you can leave your house.
Continue to wear a mask around others for 5 additional days.
If you have a fever, continue to stay home until your fever resolves.
If You Were Exposed to Someone with COVID-19 (Quarantine)
If you:
Have been boosted
OR
Completed the primary series of Pfizer or Moderna vaccine within the last 6 months
OR
Completed the primary series of J&J vaccine within the last 2 months
Wear a mask around others for 10 days.
Test on day 5, if possible.
If you develop symptoms get a test and stay home.
If you:
Completed the primary series of Pfizer or Moderna vaccine over 6 months ago and are not boosted
OR
Completed the primary series of J&J over 2 months ago and are not boosted
OR
Are unvaccinated
Stay home for 5 days. After that continue to wear a mask around others for 5 additional days.
If you can’t quarantine you must wear a mask for 10 days.
So apparently the federal vaccination mandate for companies employing 100+ people kicks in on Monday and my company decided today to start to be compliant. Nothing like giving people less than five days to try and get vaccinated if they weren't already.
God forbid tens of thousands of people wear masks when they're crammed together
Just another reason the NFL is the fucking worstttttt
That tweet is kind of bad. The mask mandate isn’t why they are looking for alternative sites.
This. It's only if California starts enforcing capacity restrictions which will force the NFL's hand. But as far as I can see, the state is leaving it to businesses to decide how to operate now.
Post by Fitter Happier on Jan 6, 2022 11:32:07 GMT -5
I really don't like this 5 day rule. My boss tested positive and is back in the office. He's wearing a mask and has no symptoms, but I feel like he's still contagious...