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Interesting. With the same ideology, you know 16 names in my undercard versus 30 names in hers, probably meaning that you have a better chance seeing more acts that you haven't seen in my lineup. Fun is guaranteed if you trust me.
Anyways, I can't seem to win over some of you no matter what/how I pick in each draft. I appreciate your acknowledgment.
I'd rather see acts I haven't seen but know I like over acts I haven't seen or heard of but might like because Fred thinks I will lol.
But also I mean it's not like you can debate your way into changing what someone else likes so I hope you're not taking it personally if you can't win people over; you just asked for me to explain my vote so I did. I like most of your lineups in these drafts - I'm sure I'd have plenty of fun at your fest as well.
I know that I can't make people change their minds about who they like. All I'm trying to say is that knowing your (not you specifically, but a general you) taste through comments/posts in other threads, it's not something extraordinary to suggest someone some acts that I (or whoever's doing the suggestion) think they might like. The other person needs to have an open mind or some kind of trust to the person who's suggesting things though.
Most of the times I don't take things personally, but in some cases and situations, it's really hard not to. Anywho, thanks for explaining your vote, and for the discussion.
When I first thought of public voting and discussed the idea with Bing, we weren't sure how it would turn out, but I'm glad there is so much discussion going on. Much preferred over same old polling.
Also, I'd like to change the goal of the game for future drafts. I'm not sure how yet (and open for suggestions), but I think these games should be more than just collecting bunch of names Inforoo would like.
Also, I'd like to change the goal of the game for future drafts. I'm not sure how yet (and open for suggestions), but I think these games should be more than just collecting bunch of names Inforoo would like.
i never really brought it up because different ideas for drafts were flying around. but if you could get 20 yrs of lineups and just go "#1's snake order through 20. #2s snake order back" so like people HAVE to take the Posts and the Coldplays early, person picking last gets the 'worst' #1 but the best #2, and just go down lines. so "reaches" are minimized. could even keep bands that blew up that started small at the place they get picked at. could lead to some funny billing but it would probably be pretty close (thats essentiallly what mine was) but clearly no one knows where to put 70% of the acts anyway.
Bing - Bings lineup I'd be hype for: Kacey Musgraves, Sufjan, Feist, Warpaint, DJ Harvey, US Girls, Nathy Peluso, FKA Twigs, Kamasi Washington, Savages, Sigrid, Avalon Emerson, The White Stripes, Queens Of The Stone Age, Regina Spektor, John Talabot, Ronny Size, Derrick May, Joy Orbison, Despacio Jaz lineup I'd be hype for: Tool, Perfume Genius, Swae Lee, Boyz Noise, John Talabot, Ty Segall, Goat, Animal Collective, Clipse, King Krule, Modeselektor, EMA, Dre&Snoop, Leonard Cohen, Earl, Yves Tumor, Royksopp, Avalon Emerson I was leaning toward Jaz slightly until I saw Despacio at the bottom of Bing's poster. Jaz has stronger big headliners, but I don't care at all for Arcade Fire or Eminem. I don't care for Florence, but The White Stripes are my favorite of all the headliners in this grouping which make up for Sufjan/Kacey who I love but are over billed. The undercards weren't hugely different
Cdevaney - I'm not gonna go through this one thoroughly cause it's a bit easier, Pablo has a lot of acts at the top of his lineup that I hear people talk about being good (and I'm sure they are), but I don't know them personally (Siouxie, The Verve, Lee Scratch Perry, Charles Bradley, The Orb)
Fred - Monie's lineup I'd be hype for: Macca, Travis Scott, Yo La Tengo, Ty Segall, Shamir, Jay Z, Kraftwerk, NERD, Swae Lee, Dirty Projectors, Le Tigre, Omar-S, Gotye, Neko Case, John Talabot, Fred's lineup I'd be hype for: Rosalia, Tyler, J Balvin, 2manydjs, The Blood Brothers (I dont know how they got off my FA list), Cornelius, Kimbra, Sudan Archives, Vampire Weekend, Autechre, MIA, Roni Size, Neko Case, the belleville three, diiv, scuba, omar-s, them crooked vultures, miguel, throbbing gristle, the walkmen, perfume, john talabot, factory floor, ben ufo, gang gang dance, avalon emerson This is probably my favorite of all Monie's lineups, but Fred has probably my favorite undercard of the lineups left outside of my own.
Pepe - Pepes lineup choices: Daft Punk, sbtrkt, floating points, neko case, mcde, eprom, glass candy, the weekend, gesa, mercury rev, amon tobin, dogblood, rae&ghost, sebastian, john talabot, solange, maceo plex, beach fossils Kanye: Monae, Prodigy, M83, denzel curry, eprom, frank ocean, mf doom, kkb, stereolab, clairo, sampha, pond, I was surprised about how much stuff i like on Pepe's after writing it all out.
Kim - Kims: Amy, RTJ, Jungle, Parquet Courts, kelela, NIN, Dino Jr, tom misch, explosions in the sky, jose gonzalez, devendra banhart, klangstof, stephen malkmus, Jens Lekman, lana del ray, bon iver, desert sessions, sigrid, marcel dettmann, patrick topping, Todd's: franz ferdinand, swae lee, deafheaven, Kendrick Lamar, Justice, rl grime, beach fossils, diiv, Nick Cave, sandy alex g, carseat headrest, johnny marr I personally don't care about GNR or Oasis tho they seem like good headliner choices objectively. I also really like some of the techno Kim has.
Jortles - Jortles: Beastie Boys, yaeji, the b2b2b, two fingers, charlotte gainsbourg, avalon emerson, joy orbison, ben ufo, phoenix, jamie xx, john hopkins, channel tres, gorillaz, danny brown, gsybe, kim petras, brian jonestown, goat sang: Pavement, Jesus & mary chain, imogen heap, blur, mazzy star, how to destroy angels, moderat, prince, jonsi, mark ronson, st germain, glass candy, liars, Sangs top lines are very strong but his undercard kinda falls off a cliff. I think Jortles went kinda basic in this draft with some of his stuff, but he kept enough interesting stuff for him to beat Prince.
JTR - Tranter: Outkast, byrne, death grips, mitski, john talabot, the drums, girlpool, Thom, James blake, swae lee, black midi, neko case, beach fossils, waters, vince staples, (this sunday is kinda weak to me) JTR: LCD, the knife, pusha t, moses sumney, the drums, friendly fires, cocteau twins, chem bros, war on drugs, four tet, brian jonestown, lets eat grandma, dj seinfeld, ariana grande, city girls, caribou, andrew bird, weyes blood, stephen malkmus, TEED I don't think it's a big surprise but my taste overlaps a bit more with JTR undercard wise even though he didn't completely fill his out, and I like JTR's headliners more.
All these people in here fucking up voting against Dragon and Fred smh
The lineups aren't my only consideration here
What else is in consideration for you?
For me, I personally don't really care about the posters. It's cool that people put in the effort and some are definitely nice to look at, but I don't think about it when voting.
Also, I feel like a schedule can either be really beneficial or a major detriment. I forget if it's been this draft or past drafts, but I've definitely voted against someone when I thought they had a nice lineup, but then they posted a schedule and I thought woof nevermind (at least compared to whoever they were up against). It's probably safer not to make one in my opinion but there have definitely been some good schedules. I think this draft Fred and Chandler have schedules that looked nice off the top of my head
So we're caring about realism now? We never have in the Bonnaroo draft, not sure why we would here.
i think the artist pool being limited to specifically only coachella artsits kinda changes the standard a little bit. every round this game i felt like there was more pressure to secure actual Sub level acts, and trading that off with the more niche inforoo darlings.
but my view on this stuff is that (besides the people who actually vote based on math, ya fuckin nerds.) everyones voting methodology is just kinda up to their instincts, and trying to hold people to some set view points on rules of how to vote is impossible.
Also, I'd like to change the goal of the game for future drafts. I'm not sure how yet (and open for suggestions), but I think these games should be more than just collecting bunch of names Inforoo would like.
My goal has always been to put together something I like. And if it crosses over with the rest of the board then that’s cool too. The only times I made picks that were inforoo fodder I’ve always regretted it. This time, I have no regrets in my lineup.
And I guess since we’re “defending” lineups here, But I just woke up and am on my phone, so all I’ll say right now is this. I like everything I picked and I scheduled them in a way that I thought would be fun and increase the amount of people I’d see at my fest irl. I have solid headliners and solid subs. I picked people who I enjoy listening to and who I know are either good live, who I’ve never seen but would love to, and finally some nostalgia throwbacks that would just be fun. If you have huge gaps in my schedule (like Afghan Whigs to Kraftwerk you mentioned) then you should do some research bc there’s a ton there (Violent Femmes, NERD, Banks, Dirty Projectors, Broken Bells, Gorgon City, The Swell Season, etc). I like my lineup and I’m proud of it. It’s very genre-diverse and culturally for verse with the type on music on display.
Speaking of diversity, I also think the hate on my headliners for being all dudes is pretty hilarious considering who they are. I’ve seen Paul 7 times now and I’d see him again anytime. He’s a Beatle. He can tell me the same story about Jimi till the cows come home and that’s fine. Bc he knew fucking Jimi Hendrix. Jay Z is an icon in hip hop. Guests at Coachella would be insane. He hasn’t played since 2010, so I’m sure his set in 2020 would be nuts with the material he’s put out since then. Jack White is the your good ole’ blues rock extraordinaire. And my weakest headliner, which is a good spot to be in. He’ll play everything from TWS to the Raconteurs and is regularly cited to be great live. I almost drafted Ariana Grande for this spot, but I decided I don’t like her very much and Jack’s still available so why would I do that just to have a female? (See only drafting things I like above) He also gives me a different genre of headliner. Just because Paul & Jack both have guitars doesn’t mean they’re musically the same. You don’t like Jack White? That’s ok. There’s other stuff on.
I also have the outdoor stage on Sunday as all female or female-led acts. Not that it matters, but I’m sure not many of you have stages where every act is female. I don’t think it matters, but clearly it does to some of you. (Tho, does it really? Bc sang didn’t win last time with all women. You can’t pick and choose when you value diversity just bc it suits your needs.)
Also, I'd like to change the goal of the game for future drafts. I'm not sure how yet (and open for suggestions), but I think these games should be more than just collecting bunch of names Inforoo would like.
My goal has always been to put together something I like. And if it crosses over with the rest of the board then that’s cool too. The only times I made picks that were inforoo fodder I’ve always regretted it. This time, I have no regrets in my lineup.
And I guess since we’re “defending” lineups here, But I just woke up and am on my phone, so all I’ll say right now is this. I like everything I picked and I scheduled them in a way that I thought would be fun and increase the amount of people I’d see at my fest irl. I have solid headliners and solid subs. I picked people who I enjoy listening to and who I know are either good live, who I’ve never seen but would love to, and finally some nostalgia throwbacks that would just be fun. If you have huge gaps in my schedule (like Afghan Whigs to Kraftwerk you mentioned) then you should do some research bc there’s a ton there (Violent Femmes, NERD, Banks, Dirty Projectors, Broken Bells, Gorgon City, The Swell Season, etc). I like my lineup and I’m proud of it. It’s very genre-diverse and culturally for verse with the type on music on display.
Speaking of diversity, I also think the hate on my headliners for being all dudes is pretty hilarious considering who they are. I’ve seen Paul 7 times now and I’d see him again anytime. He’s a Beatle. He can tell me the same story about Jimi till the cows come home and that’s fine. Bc he knew fucking Jimi Hendrix. Jay Z is an icon in hip hop. Guests at Coachella would be insane. He hasn’t played since 2010, so I’m sure his set in 2020 would be nuts with the material he’s put out since then. Jack White is the your good ole’ blues rock extraordinaire. And my weakest headliner, which is a good spot to be in. He’ll play everything from TWS to the Raconteurs and is regularly cited to be great live. I almost drafted Ariana Grande for this spot, but I decided I don’t like her very much and Jack’s still available so why would I do that just to have a female? (See only drafting things I like above) He also gives me a different genre of headliner. Just because Paul & Jack both have guitars doesn’t mean they’re musically the same. You don’t like Jack White? That’s ok. There’s other stuff on.
I also have the outdoor stage on Sunday as all female or female-led acts. Not that it matters, but I’m sure not many of you have stages where every act is female. I don’t think it matters, but clearly it does to some of you. (Tho, does it really? Bc sang didn’t win last time with all women. You can’t pick and choose when you value diversity just bc it suits your needs.)
Same here, I always pick stuff I would like to see myself. You’re getting too defensive. I like your lineup overall, but some of the names just don’t work for me. And that gap in the schedule is not because I don’t know who the names are, it’s because I personally am not interested. And yeah sure, Paul and Jack are very different genre wise.
Also, I'd like to change the goal of the game for future drafts. I'm not sure how yet (and open for suggestions), but I think these games should be more than just collecting bunch of names Inforoo would like.
i never really brought it up because different ideas for drafts were flying around. but if you could get 20 yrs of lineups and just go "#1's snake order through 20. #2s snake order back" so like people HAVE to take the Posts and the Coldplays early, person picking last gets the 'worst' #1 but the best #2, and just go down lines. so "reaches" are minimized. could even keep bands that blew up that started small at the place they get picked at. could lead to some funny billing but it would probably be pretty close (thats essentiallly what mine was) but clearly no one knows where to put 70% of the acts anyway.
It’s a cool idea, but I think billing could be part of the challenge itself.
My goal has always been to put together something I like. And if it crosses over with the rest of the board then that’s cool too. The only times I made picks that were inforoo fodder I’ve always regretted it. This time, I have no regrets in my lineup.
And I guess since we’re “defending” lineups here, But I just woke up and am on my phone, so all I’ll say right now is this. I like everything I picked and I scheduled them in a way that I thought would be fun and increase the amount of people I’d see at my fest irl. I have solid headliners and solid subs. I picked people who I enjoy listening to and who I know are either good live, who I’ve never seen but would love to, and finally some nostalgia throwbacks that would just be fun. If you have huge gaps in my schedule (like Afghan Whigs to Kraftwerk you mentioned) then you should do some research bc there’s a ton there (Violent Femmes, NERD, Banks, Dirty Projectors, Broken Bells, Gorgon City, The Swell Season, etc). I like my lineup and I’m proud of it. It’s very genre-diverse and culturally for verse with the type on music on display.
Speaking of diversity, I also think the hate on my headliners for being all dudes is pretty hilarious considering who they are. I’ve seen Paul 7 times now and I’d see him again anytime. He’s a Beatle. He can tell me the same story about Jimi till the cows come home and that’s fine. Bc he knew fucking Jimi Hendrix. Jay Z is an icon in hip hop. Guests at Coachella would be insane. He hasn’t played since 2010, so I’m sure his set in 2020 would be nuts with the material he’s put out since then. Jack White is the your good ole’ blues rock extraordinaire. And my weakest headliner, which is a good spot to be in. He’ll play everything from TWS to the Raconteurs and is regularly cited to be great live. I almost drafted Ariana Grande for this spot, but I decided I don’t like her very much and Jack’s still available so why would I do that just to have a female? (See only drafting things I like above) He also gives me a different genre of headliner. Just because Paul & Jack both have guitars doesn’t mean they’re musically the same. You don’t like Jack White? That’s ok. There’s other stuff on.
I also have the outdoor stage on Sunday as all female or female-led acts. Not that it matters, but I’m sure not many of you have stages where every act is female. I don’t think it matters, but clearly it does to some of you. (Tho, does it really? Bc sang didn’t win last time with all women. You can’t pick and choose when you value diversity just bc it suits your needs.)
Same here, I always pick stuff I would like to see myself. You’re getting too defensive. I like your lineup overall, but some of the names just don’t work for me. And that gap in the schedule is not because I don’t know who the names are, it’s because I personally am not interested. And yeah sure, Paul and Jack are very different genre wise.
That was all pointed more so at all the stabs at my lineup, not you personally.
And I do think Paul & Jack are pretty different. If you’ve seen both live then you know that they’re very different experiences. Paul is very poppy, Jack is more just straight rock.
Same here, I always pick stuff I would like to see myself. You’re getting too defensive. I like your lineup overall, but some of the names just don’t work for me. And that gap in the schedule is not because I don’t know who the names are, it’s because I personally am not interested. And yeah sure, Paul and Jack are very different genre wise.
That was all pointed more so at all the stabs at my lineup, not you personally.
And I do think Paul & Jack are pretty different. If you’ve seen both live then you know that they’re very different experiences. Paul is very poppy, Jack is more just straight rock.
I also said good things about your lineup in my posts I’d like to hear your comments about mine too (if you want to of course)!
I’ve seen both acts live, both good, but I don’t think they’re that much different experiences.
That was all pointed more so at all the stabs at my lineup, not you personally.
And I do think Paul & Jack are pretty different. If you’ve seen both live then you know that they’re very different experiences. Paul is very poppy, Jack is more just straight rock.
I also said good things about your lineup in my posts I’d like to hear your comments about mine too (if you want to of course)!
I’ve seen both acts live, both good, but I don’t think they’re that much different experiences.
I just sat down to eat and am looking at everything now to vote and to give my comments
I know it's very close and for some just boils down to a few very specific acts but I wonder if you've also tried to fill in my schedule compared to Jaz's? If it is available, I always use that to get a better grisp of what I could be in for aswell (I did that for example with Theo and Tristan).
I know it's very close and for some just boils down to a few very specific acts but I wonder if you've also tried to fill in my schedule compared to Jaz's? If it is available, I always use that to get a better grisp of what I could be in for aswell (I did that for example with Theo and Tristan).
Anna Calvi > MØ > Busdriver > Rod y Gab > Beats Antique > Clipse > Arcade Fire
Del tha Funky Homosapien > Bone Thugs N Harmony > Temples > The Decemberists > 1/2 Earl Sweatshirt > Leonard Cohen > Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg
On paper I prefer Jaz's Friday, but the fact that my top three acts for that day (Fatboy Slim, Erykah Badu, Rufus Wainwright) are all up against each other is rough - whereas that 1975 > Poliça > Peaches > DaM-FunK run looks real nice.
I prefer your Saturday for having more things that are up my alley + more things that I haven't seen before (which I recognise is a bit arbitrary, but that's how it goes with this game). I've seen Florence & Arcade Fire twice each, and I would give the edge to Florence for the better show.
I have to go with Jaz's Sunday - even though I never saw The White Stripes, and I considered them my favourite band throughout my teenage years. But Leonard Cohen put on one of my favourite shows of all time, and with Dr. Dre & Snoop + Temples, that's hard to pass up.
Shame you're not that into either of the Friday HLers tho but tried to fit in some good counter programming (each day actually I think) if you don't like m.
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Can't say for sure if it's better or worse that our votes are public, but it's certainly generated more arguments and discussion
From what I've heard from people so far is that they generally like discussing and comparing line ups more than when it wasn't head to head but just a regular poll. Every round will always spark conversation cause participants are always up against someone else meaning you'll have to compare em again and again. In a normal poll I feel like there were only discussions at the beginning and that you could kinda make up your mind for the whole game. I think the public voting comes along with it but isn't necessarily a factor I think?
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Theo vs DRAGON ENERGY - This one was really hard for me and came down to the schedule. But I'd end up seeing more at DE's and and I'd also be more excited to see stuff at DE's, if that makes sense. Theo has a great undercard tho.
(Also, my 2 cents on the whole New Order thing. As much as I love them, they're not a sub. I saw them in a half empty tent at Coach 2017. So having them as your #2 on their day makes me think that day is really weak before I even look at the rest. Which there is some good stuff Sunday, but it is a light day and you're def missing a sub on a day you already don't have a solid headliner. I feel like you could've spread this out a little more to make them both work better in your lineup)
Chandler Bingaling vs. Jaz - This one was also pretty difficult and took me the longest to decide between. Ultimately that Em-Dre-Snoop super set is just too damn intriguing and pushed me over the edge. There's a ton for me at both fests tho.
cdevaney vs. pablo - I feel weird voting against Portishead and Massive Attack, bc both are big acts on my bucket list. But Cdev's overall lineup is just more to my taste.
Monie vs. Fred - Obviously I'm voting for myself, and obviously my own line up is much more suited to my own taste. I like a lot of stuff on Fred's lineup, but ultimately I think my undercard shines more than his and I prefer the subs I chose over his (sans J Balvin, who doesn't go very far for anyone but like 3 people on this board anyways). I did a 10 to 10 comparison below tho if you want an in depth thing here.
Pepe Silvia vs. Silver Surfer - I actually like both of these a lot, but the edge goes to Pepe.
Kim Smoltz vs. Todd - Not a lot to say here. Todd as more stuff I'd be excited to see.
Jake Jortles vs. sang - Jake's just more well-rounded for me. Sang's lineup has a lot of names that I know people probably like a lot in a genre I just don't care for.
King T vs. JamesTheRam - I think T's is a good example of striking a balance between good music-snob stuff and shit I'd just have a fun ass time at.
Friday: Paul vs Rosalia - I like both, but Rosalia isn't really a headliner and Paul is a legend. We could even swap this for Tyler as he should prob be your #1 here over Rosalia anyways, and it's the same thing. Paul wins over Tyler or Rosalia.
Travis Scott vs Tyler - I'd prob give this to Tyler, though both would be fun. Tyler is just more interesting.
The xx vs The Stone Roses - The xx. I'm not a fan of The Stone Roses.
HER vs J Balvin - I'm prob one of like 3 people on here who like J Balvin. And I love him. I like HER, but I would give this to J Balvin.
Moby vs The Postal Service - This one is hard to compare bc they're so different and I like both. But if this were a scheduling conflict, I'd prob The Postal Service only bc they're not together anymore. But I'd have way more fun at Moby.
Echo & the Bunnymen vs Megan Thee Stallion - I'd see Echo and the Bunnymen for sure. They're on my list of acts to see. Nothing against Megan here, but I think it's no contest.
Gucci Gang vs Groove Armada - Groove Armada would be fun, but everyone would be going for that one song. Gucci Gang is what I call, "fun trash hip hop." Is it the best music? No. But it'd be fun and I'd be entertained the whole time. Gucci Mane and Lil Pump have some fun trashy songs. Idgaf about Smokepurpp tho.
Yo La Tengo vs 2manydjs - I drafted 2manydjs last time. I like them. I saw them in Jan and they're great. I've never seen Yo La Tengo so if this were a conflict I'd go there, but I'll give this one to Fred. Even tho neither are a wrong choice imo.
Duke Dumont vs The Blood Brothers - Idk who the blood brothers are, but listening to 30 seconds of them it's like screamo emo rock? That's not my thing, so I'm good on that. Duke Dumont hands down.
Marian Hill vs Sven Vath - Again, not familiar with Sven, but I'd go to Marian Hill. He sounds like a good house DJ, but I could get that elsewhere in the fest. I haven't seen Marian Hill and would have a good time at that set.
Saturday: Jay Z vs Lady Gaga - Both are solid headliners. I've seen Lady Gaga and had a great time, but I've never seen Jay Z. Both have a solid discography and a long list of hits. They both put on a great show. This one is a draw, slight edge to Jay Z only bc I've never seen him and being a Coachella set he'd prob have a great list of guests.
Kraftwerk vs Vampire Weekend - Kraftwerk.
NERD vs Chance - NERD. Chance I feel like is hit or miss. I've seen him 3 times and of those 3 he was only good once. I wish Chance was better than he is, but he's not. I would def give this to NERD. Pharrell also just has a looong list of collabs and the guest potential there is great.
Bazzi vs Danny Elfman - Bazzi is a big pop/hip hop singer. He's got millions of streams and hits with SZA, Camilla Cabello, 21 Savage, etc. You def know who he is if you you listen to his top streamed song on Spotify. I'd prob compare him to Khalid, but more poppy. I give this to Danny Elfman tho. It's the more unique pick. I will say, I saw Hans Zimmer at Coach tho and after the first half hour or so I left bc the novelty wore off. But seeing composers live is pretty cool and unique experience at a fest.
Violent Femmes vs Autechre - Violent Femmes. Autechre is good and I'd prob check them out schedule permitting. But Violent Femmes gets the legacy bump for me and is a bit more unique. It takes a lot for DJs to stand out though, and Autechre is a great Yuma act.
Armin van Buuren vs MIA - I've never seen MIA, but I have seen Armin van Buuren. I think he's on the better end of the spectrum of cheese edm, but I'd see MIA.
Ella Mai vs Jarvis Cocker - Personal taste here, I'm not a Jarvis Cocker fan. I'd see Ella Mai.
Dwight Yoakum vs Anitta - I would love to see both of these acts. And they're hard to compare bc Dwight Yoakum is a legendary country star, and Anitta is an up and coming latin star. But I'd prob go to Dwight just bc I've never had the chance to see him, and I think that Anitta will be around for a while. I do like her tho, so good pick.
DJ Snake vs Placebo - DJ Snake would be a fun ass show, but Placebo is the better band. So I'd prob go to them.
Broken Bells vs Roni Size Reprazent - Idk who Roni is. Sounds like drum and bass? Which isn't my thing. Not sure if you've ever seen Broken Bells, but they're so good live. Danger Mouse is such a force to be reckoned with. I can't wait for them to put out new music and tour again. I hope we get something soon.
Sunday: RHCP vs Jack White - I had fun at RHCP at Roo in 17. But I'd rather see Jack White.
The Black Keys vs Cardi B - Inforoo loves to hate them, and maybe it's bc I'm from Ohio, but The Black Keys are not that bad. They are not headliners, imo, but they're very talented and they put out solid albums. Dan Auerbach can be kinda douchey, but whatever. Cardi would be a fun show. But she also seems like she'd kinda be a trainwreck live. I've never seen either, and I think if they were up against each other I'd prob split the sets. But to give a winner here I'm going to go with my Ohio boys.
David Guetta vs Them Crooked Vultures - I took David Guetta in the great cheese run during the draft. In hindsight I wish I would've gone with Axwell ^ Ingrosso, but that's neither here nor there. I've seen him live and it was fun, so whatever. I can respect the talent in Them Crooked Vultures, but it's not my kind of music. I'll give this to you tho bc I'm not making a strong musical argument for David Guetta. 😂
Phantogram vs Miguel - I really like both of these artists. I think Miguel is an amazing singer and his discography is varied and interesting. I think he deserves much more love than he gets in the festival circuit. Phantogram is also solid live and very talented, but I concede they're festival whores and prob billed higher in the festival circuit than they should be. I give this Miguel.
BLACKPINK vs Black Eyed Peas - lol at them both having black in their names. But this def goes to BLACKPINK. They're fantastic and so much fun to watch. Their songs are catchy and kpop as a genre is more interesting than anything the BEP have done.
MGMT vs Summer Walker - I've never heard of Summer Walker, but she has a lovely voice. It sounds like something I'd listen to in down time or as background music while I work. I will say, she sounds like most r&b singers that are popular right now, so it doesn't stand out. MGMT is def more unique musically than Summer Walker it seems, so I'd go there. Though I acknowledge I'm making a snap judgement, but this could easily be SZA, Solange or even Ariana in her lower register...
I'm actually going to stop here-ish bc looking at the next names on your lineup, I only really know 1 of them so it's just going to be more of me making snap judgements... but...
Tory Lanez vs Throbbing Gristle, Lapsley vs Eric Prydz, Minus the Bear vs Scissor Sisters. No idea who Throbbing Gristle is, Lapsley is better than Eric Prydz, and I'm vaguely familiar with Scissor Sisters. So I'd go to Tory Lanez, Lapsley and prob check out Scissor Sisters bc I know enough that I'm interested. And I've seen Minus the Bear, so I'd go see something new.
Overall, I think we're pretty evenly matched, but I went with my act 18/29 times, plus one tie.
but my view on this stuff is that (besides the people who actually vote based on math, ya fuckin nerds.) everyones voting methodology is just kinda up to their instincts, and trying to hold people to some set view points on rules of how to vote is impossible.
Well, but the asignment was 'draft a Coachella line up' and not P4K XL, D4N XL or Bonnaroo.. Everyone can interprete that however they want to but at the end of the day a Coachella-line up has to consist a few factors meaning an electronic line up, some hip hop acts, some latin acts, a great mix between genres, diversity and well yes.. gender. Cheesy acts are much as part of Coachella as rare acts are imo and well, that could give your line up maybe a bit of a stain but as corny as Black Eyed Peas or Hans Zimmer are, I've never seen them so why not grab their show when it's possible you know? Same thing with cheesy electronic acts like Odesza or idk Calvin Harris and Avicii. Having a certain personal touch on your line up is normal I think tho, like I think Jaz drafted more hiphop on his line up cause I think he likes a lot of rap and Tristan spend a little bit more time with electronic acts than the next one. The more I think about DMS-pablo, the more conflicted I get about my own methodology cause DMS' headliners were great and diverse but to me his undercard kind of lacked in some places whereas pablo's undercard spoke a bit more to me but his headliners were a bit samey and way to small.. But at the end of the day I fill in everyone's schedule (for whoever has one available) and try to compare em and see what's best for me. So for me it's both things that I'm taking into consideration and to find a balance in those is very hard..
Update on the brackets: 25 votes in, let's get it to 30 like last round! Some of them are really goddamn close.
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I also have the outdoor stage on Sunday as all female or female-led acts. Not that it matters, but I’m sure not many of you have stages where every act is female. I don’t think it matters, but clearly it does to some of you. (Tho, does it really? Bc sang didn’t win last time with all women. You can’t pick and choose when you value diversity just bc it suits your needs.)
I don’t know if this is an argument you want try to be making.
Also, I'd like to change the goal of the game for future drafts. I'm not sure how yet (and open for suggestions), but I think these games should be more than just collecting bunch of names Inforoo would like.
yeah this is something i want to accomplish for the iii points draft. At least have the objective more clear.
I’d like to hear your comments about mine too (if you want to of course)!
