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I'm upset I didn't know this draft was a thing until it was full. This is easily the best draft since the 'anything goes' draft a couple years ago (which tragically fizzled out early).
I'm loving all your teams. Hard to say which one I'd pick in an apocalypse.
Post by Jake Jortles on Jun 11, 2020 11:07:56 GMT -5
Alright Seeding polling (through tomorrow at noon) is up in the Blue Room for both drafts separately. Once we have seeding we will do 3 rounds of voting. This is all going to go pretty quick, so stay alert. The two winners of the brackets will face off in the championship.
Tranter (Lion, Rhino, Ox, Tasmanian Devil) vs Dan (Anaconda, Wolf, Giraffe, Mosquito)
Youcool (Elephant, Komodo Dragon, Horse, Goat) vs Kanye (Dolphin, Honeybadger, Rat, Tortoise)
Dragon Energy (Hippo, Eagle, Moose, Giant Anteater) vs Maddog (Gorilla, Kangaroo, Ostrich, Racoon)
Please just reference the poll threads if you need to see the marketing again. I'm hoping this is where we get into some debates and more humor is produced. Vote up!
I'm worried about when a couple zombies slip past Jaz's tanks (Giraffe, Hippo). Depending on a Hyena and a bat scares me. I like our Grizzly to be the deciding factor and give us a few more precious hours of life.
Monie (Elephant, Kangaroo, Baboon, Seal) vs Theo (Cape Buffalo, Parrot, Moose, Giant Anteater)
Very interesting matchup. You have two tanks and a hand to hand vs 1 tank and 2 hand to hands. Both have one worthless animal. I think I like Monies because when shit gets really sketchy.... when the fortress and first line of defense has been penetrated, and there are 2-3 zombies coming straight for you, I like the Kangaroo and Monkey to be able to quickly respond and shed a couple of them. Whereas once you get to that scenario with theo's lineup, you are kind of fucked and on your own. I don't trust any of the Moose, Buffalo, or Anteater to be able to save you with precision on the drop of a dime like a Monkey / Kangaroo combo could.
Ok so both teams have animals to ride on, which I see value in. The Horse is quicker / better for that. This really comes down to the speed of the horse vs the power and skill set of the Gorilla and Komodo and which would keep you alive longer. I really love the Gorilla in this game. I'm giving it to the Gorilla. There will be a point where you can't run because zombies are everywhere. I think the Gorilla and Komodo help get NBF and her camel to that point. And at that point, I don't think the TD, Wolf, and Capybara combo will be able to dispose of zombies quickly enough to keep up with NBF.
Draft 2
JTR on bye. Will play the lowest seeded winner.
Tranter (Lion, Rhino, Ox, Tasmanian Devil) vs Dan (Anaconda, Wolf, Giraffe, Mosquito)
I like Dan's team and was surprised to see him only get two votes. Less than Kanye. Tranter has a really nice set up here with two bulldozers and a Lion that can act as that quick last line of defense that would dispose of zombies in a timely manner. Moving from one to the next.
Youcool (Elephant, Komodo Dragon, Horse, Goat) vs Kanye (Dolphin, Honeybadger, Rat, Tortoise)
I'd feel like I was basically on my own with Kanye's security.
Dragon Energy (Hippo, Eagle, Moose, Giant Anteater) vs Maddog (Gorilla, Kangaroo, Ostrich, Racoon)
The first three in each of these keep it kinda close but I'm not sure what a flying fox is really going to do here so I'm going with the Jorltes/Rooloo combo.
Monie (Elephant, Kangaroo, Baboon, Seal) vs Theo (Cape Buffalo, Parrot, Moose, Giant Anteater)
Post by trantsgiving on Jun 12, 2020 15:10:42 GMT -5
Draft 1.
Jortloo (Grizzly Bear, Croc, Forrest Hog, Anaconda) vs Jaz (Hippo, Hyena, Giraffe, Flying Fox) Jaz certainly has a speed and agility advantage but the power of the Bear / Croc combo is too good to ignore.
Monie (Elephant, Kangaroo, Baboon, Seal) vs Theo (Cape Buffalo, Parrot, Moose, Giant Anteater) Theo has one solid power animal and the rest is pretty meh. The Elephant is top tier, the kangaroo is a great pick because of their strength and speed. Like the baboon pick too. NBF (Gorilla, Komodo Dragon, Camel, Snow Crab) vs. Druid (Tasmanian Devil, Wolf, Horse, Capybara) I thought NBF had the coconut crab not the snow? Either way I think her top three is good enough to get the vote here. The wolf and the horse are nice and provide protection but neither offer the level of offense that the gorilla does.
Draft 2
Tranter (Lion, Rhino, Ox, Tasmanian Devil) vs Dan (Anaconda, Wolf, Giraffe, Mosquito) Don't wanna talk too much about mine but Dan would likely die quickly here. The Anaconda would not kill zombies efficiently enough. The giraffe cannot get as low as it needs too and riding one risks you falling off my a height into a hoard of zombies. Don't get the mosquito pick. Youcool (Elephant, Komodo Dragon, Horse, Goat) vs Kanye (Dolphin, Honeybadger, Rat, Tortoise) Again, the elephant is elite. I think it's a well balanced team but focuses more on protection than actual zombie killing which might be a problem if the zombies are multiplying at a rate faster than you are killing them.
Dragon Energy (Hippo, Eagle, Moose, Giant Anteater) vs Maddog (Gorilla, Kangaroo, Ostrich, Racoon) I am personally not a fan of taking birds in this draft. The Eagle is the best one but I don't think they have much attacking power. Like the Hippo and Moose but there's no 1/2 punch that matches the Gorilla / Kangaroo. Ostrich and Raccoon are good values for 3/4.
Dragon Energy (Hippo, Eagle, Moose, Giant Anteater) vs Maddog (Gorilla, Kangaroo, Ostrich, Racoon) I am personally not a fan of taking birds in this draft. The Eagle is the best one but I don't think they have much attacking power. Like the Hippo and Moose but there's no 1/2 punch that matches the Gorilla / Kangaroo. Ostrich and Raccoon are good values for 3/4.
Agree with most of your assessment here, but what value does a fucking raccoon have lol? Feel like that thing is a gnat that the zombies wouldn't give a fuck about.
Dragon Energy (Hippo, Eagle, Moose, Giant Anteater) vs Maddog (Gorilla, Kangaroo, Ostrich, Racoon) I am personally not a fan of taking birds in this draft. The Eagle is the best one but I don't think they have much attacking power. Like the Hippo and Moose but there's no 1/2 punch that matches the Gorilla / Kangaroo. Ostrich and Raccoon are good values for 3/4.
Agree with most of your assessment here, but what value does a fucking raccoon have lol? Feel like that thing is a gnat that the zombies wouldn't give a fuck about.
I think they’re better than a lot of what went in round 4. Like if a raccoon is fearing for its life it can scratch up pretty good.
I'm going with the underdog on this one. I have to admit the grizzly is pretty formidable in this situation, but I think the hippo is going to be pretty indestructible and could be useful for helping Jaz keep out of the way of the zombies. I'm also told that giraffe's are pretty badass and will use their heads like a wrecking ball, so that's also a point in Jaz's favor here.
Monie (Elephant, Kangaroo, Baboon, Seal) vs Theo (Cape Buffalo, Parrot, Moose, Giant Anteater)
As I've said before, I just think Monie's elephant, kangaroo, baboon combination is going to last a long time in the zombie apocalypse.
Tranter (Lion, Rhino, Ox, Tasmanian Devil) vs Dan (Anaconda, Wolf, Giraffe, Mosquito)
I mean, this is a pretty scary team. That's going to be a hard one to beat.
Youcool (Elephant, Komodo Dragon, Horse, Goat) vs Kanye (Dolphin, Honeybadger, Rat, Tortoise)
Size, strength, no water animals.
Dragon Energy (Hippo, Eagle, Moose, Giant Anteater) vs Maddog (Gorilla, Kangaroo, Ostrich, Racoon)
Kangaroos are badasses and I obviously think the gorilla is a high quality pick.
Please just reference the poll threads if you need to see the marketing again. I'm hoping this is where we get into some debates and more humor is produced. Vote up!
Jake Jortles, King T is right. I've got a coconut crab, which is a very different thing from a snow crab.
I'm going with the underdog on this one. I have to admit the grizzly is pretty formidable in this situation, but I think the hippo is going to be pretty indestructible and could be useful for helping Jaz keep out of the way of the zombies. I'm also told that giraffe's are pretty badass and will use their heads like a wrecking ball, so that's also a point in Jaz's favor here.
Monie (Elephant, Kangaroo, Baboon, Seal) vs Theo (Cape Buffalo, Parrot, Moose, Giant Anteater)
As I've said before, I just think Monie's elephant, kangaroo, baboon combination is going to last a long time in the zombie apocalypse.
Tranter (Lion, Rhino, Ox, Tasmanian Devil) vs Dan (Anaconda, Wolf, Giraffe, Mosquito)
I mean, this is a pretty scary team. That's going to be a hard one to beat.
Youcool (Elephant, Komodo Dragon, Horse, Goat) vs Kanye (Dolphin, Honeybadger, Rat, Tortoise)
Size, strength, no water animals.
Dragon Energy (Hippo, Eagle, Moose, Giant Anteater) vs Maddog (Gorilla, Kangaroo, Ostrich, Racoon)
Kangaroos are badasses and I obviously think the gorilla is a high quality pick.
Please just reference the poll threads if you need to see the marketing again. I'm hoping this is where we get into some debates and more humor is produced. Vote up!
Jake Jortles , King T is right. I've got a coconut crab, which is a very different thing from a snow crab.
Post by Jake Jortles on Jun 12, 2020 15:54:36 GMT -5
Some more footage of the pick that should have unquestionably went #1 overall in both drafts.
I've been pondering whether or not a Gorilla is better, but only because of a Gorillas great reach. But the more I think about just how much bigger, stronger, faster a Grizzly is, plus it has like 4 knives at the end of each hand. They are able to take down / wrestle very intelligently (the move at :45 in the second video is gorgeous). A Grizzly could eliminate 2-4 zombies in that amount of time it would take for a hippo to turn around 180 degrees in the event a zombie got close to you.
Post by Cookin' Mama on Jun 12, 2020 16:03:46 GMT -5
A racoon is too small to do much of anything for a sustained period of time. Whatever animal it is it's got to be able to take down a human sized zombie so smaller animals just have a natural disadvantage to them
Post by Jake Jortles on Jun 12, 2020 16:25:54 GMT -5
I'm voting for Maddog over DE. I've been going back and forth because I like DE's two tanks to treat a bunch of zombies like bowling pins. I think Ostrich has been a little overrated. Not sure an ostrich would really do anything. However I think the most valuable asset from either team can be witnessed from :33 - :47 in the following video.
I'm voting for Maddog over DE. I've been going back and forth because I like DE's two tanks to treat a bunch of zombies like bowling pins. I think Ostrich has been a little overrated. Not sure an ostrich would really do anything. However I think the most valuable asset from either team can be witnessed from :33 - :47 in the following video.
My response would be that a Hippo weighs the same as 11 silverback gorillas and is more dangerous normally.
I'm voting for Maddog over DE. I've been going back and forth because I like DE's two tanks to treat a bunch of zombies like bowling pins. I think Ostrich has been a little overrated. Not sure an ostrich would really do anything. However I think the most valuable asset from either team can be witnessed from :33 - :47 in the following video.
My response would be that a Hippo weighs the same as 11 silverback gorillas and is more dangerous normally.
I'd definitely favor your team if it squared off vs Maddogs in a fight to the death, but my main question is how quickly can a hippo or a moose move from zombie to zombie? Compared to a gorilla.
Post by Jake Jortles on Jun 12, 2020 17:03:40 GMT -5
Also I'm thinking trantsgiving and Jeremy Fragrance should have just played it safe with the bovine family and taken a spanish bull that they use for bull fights / running of the bulls / bull riding.
I'm sure the buffalo and ox are stronger, but for the purposes of the zombies, I don't love their curly ass horns where the Bull just has two swords at its disposal. We also have all seen a ton of footage of how jerky and athletic a Bull can be. Moving laterally quickly as a tank is awesome with those horns. The videos I see of the muskox... they look super strong, but they just kinda bonk heads. Its a huge power shot, but you only need so much power against these zombies. Also the use of the head means they will injure themselves quicker than a Bull would have by impaling these fuckers.
The game is survival not kill count. Racoon is going to be hard to kill, can help scavenge, can help build.
Full extent of what the animal is capable of, the can knock down humans, they can use tools.
The idea that an anaconda is better for survival is laughable. That thing dies day one when it's back end 15 ft from its head gets bit.
The object is for you to survive, not the racoon. Or else Id just vote for Dan and DE as their mosquitos and eagles would just fly away and literally never die.
The game is survival not kill count. Racoon is going to be hard to kill, can help scavenge, can help build.
Full extent of what the animal is capable of, the can knock down humans, they can use tools.
The idea that an anaconda is better for survival is laughable. That thing dies day one when it's back end 15 ft from its head gets bit.
The object is for you to survive, not the racoon. Or else Id just vote for Dan and DE as their mosquitos and eagles would just fly away and literally never die.
it helps me survive by being a mini me. I could set traps and it could pull cords. It can throw rocks.
If there is a wave of 1000+ zombies at any point I like my team the best to run, no one's team is clearing that.
Jortloo (Grizzly Bear, Croc, Forrest Hog, Anaconda) vs Jaz (Hippo, Hyena, Giraffe, Flying Fox) - Grizzy and croc is really strong and as much as I don't love the anaconda pick, it seems like it would do more damage than a flying fox. this one I'm really unconvinced either way on.
Monie (Elephant, Kangaroo, Baboon, Seal) vs Theo (Cape Buffalo, Parrot, Moose, Giant Anteater) - I think elephant with a baboon is a really good duo. Seal (this is supposed to be sealion I think)isn't great but I think it's better than a parrot.
NBF (Gorilla, Komodo Dragon, Camel, Snow Crab) vs. Druid (Tasmanian Devil, Wolf, Horse, Capybara) - Druid's team seems a bit small to stand up to an assault
Draft 2
JTR on bye. Will play the lowest seeded winner.
Tranter (Lion, Rhino, Ox, Tasmanian Devil) vs Dan (Anaconda, Wolf, Giraffe, Mosquito) - I'm pretty high on the giraffe, but not when its your best fighter.
Youcool (Elephant, Komodo Dragon, Horse, Goat) vs Kanye (Dolphin, Honeybadger, Rat, Tortoise) ...
Dragon Energy (Hippo, Eagle, Moose, Giant Anteater) vs Maddog (Gorilla, Kangaroo, Ostrich, Racoon) - I think Kangaroo and Ostrich have been overvalued here, what is a kangaroo gonna do to take down a zombie? punch it?
Please just reference the poll threads if you need to see the marketing again. I'm hoping this is where we get into some debates and more humor is produced. Vote up!
