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Also I'm thinking trantsgiving and Jeremy Fragrance should have just played it safe with the bovine family and taken a spanish bull that they use for bull fights / running of the bulls / bull riding.
I'm sure the buffalo and ox are stronger, but for the purposes of the zombies, I don't love their curly ass horns where the Bull just has two swords at its disposal. We also have all seen a ton of footage of how jerky and athletic a Bull can be. Moving laterally quickly as a tank is awesome with those horns. The videos I see of the muskox... they look super strong, but they just kinda bonk heads. Its a huge power shot, but you only need so much power against these zombies. Also the use of the head means they will injure themselves quicker than a Bull would have by impaling these fuckers.
maybe but I like having the diversity. Having four speed animals risks them all tiring themselves out quickly. I feel like a Spanish Bull would wear out quickly. Plus I could reasonably ride the muskox if needed.
Jortloo has no mountable animal. The hippo, hyena, and giraffe are all honorable steeds I could ride into battle on. The nature of how a grizzly attacks (on its hind legs) renders it unrideable when fighting zombs. Unless you want it keep it on four paws the entire time I guess. The croc is too low to the ground, and you def can't ride an anaconda. The forest hog has some potential, but they need to charge and buck to use their horns and it would probably be difficult to manage.
Grizzlies are badass no doubt, but they have vulnerabilities. Earlier in the thread I posted a video of a grizzly being incapacitated by an elastic string. Hippos are two-ton tanks that can crush most things in their massive jaws. Their skin is also thick enough that being bitten by a zombie isn't much of a concern for them.
Crocs are good, but they don't get as big as gators and their speed is only evident in short bursts. The hyena is nimble, already has a taste for dead flesh, and is always ready to pounce (see below).
I will say that the forest hog is a strong third pick if you're looking for something to just barrel through the undead, but this leaves Jortloo unprepared for novel situations. Had to scramble up a tree to escape? Giraffe's got your back. The giraffe can also trample like a mf and swing that neck around like you wouldn't believe.
What's the anaconda gonna do? Slowly squeeze the breath out of unbreathing beings? Knock the legs out from under them? Not that it's much better in battle then the flying fox, but the bat is gonna get you an aerial presence and night scouting. FFs can also get damn huge.
Jortloo has a good squad but is woefully underprepared for unexpected scenarios and has no escaping or scoping strategies.
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Monie (Elephant, Kangaroo, Baboon, Seal) vs Theo (Cape Buffalo, Parrot, Moose, Giant Anteater) I'm not really buying the seal too much considering that this is gonna be a land battle. Baboon is a dope #3 though. I think I'm gonna have to give it to Monie just because Theo's team doesn't really have any teeth. If the buffalo and moose don't get the space to charge, it's gonna be hard for Theo to break out if a zombie horde closes in on him.
NBF (Gorilla, Komodo Dragon, Camel, Coconut Crab) vs. Druid (Tasmanian Devil, Wolf, Horse, Capybara) The one-two punch of Gorilla and Komodo Dragon really seals this one in my opinion. The TazDevil probably would have been a better #2 or #3 with some of the other options still available at the time.
Draft 2
JTR on bye. Will play the lowest seeded winner.
Tranter (Lion, Rhino, Ox, Tasmanian Devil) vs Dan (Anaconda, Wolf, Giraffe, Mosquito) Sorry, this one's not close..
Youcool (Elephant, Komodo Dragon, Horse, Goat) vs Kanye (Dolphin, Honeybadger, Rat, Tortoise) Neither is this one.
Dragon Energy (Hippo, Eagle, Moose, Giant Anteater) vs Maddog (Gorilla, Kangaroo, Ostrich, Racoon) This one's tough. I don't think Giant Anteater or Racoon are great picks, though between the two I'd prefer GA. DE also has a bit of an edge with both Hippo and a fierce bird in Eagle. That gives him some ferocity and air advantage.
Please just reference the poll threads if you need to see the marketing again. I'm hoping this is where we get into some debates and more humor is produced. Vote up!
Nice to see our teammate “the crocodile” among those 5.
Croc and Bison are surprising to see here. Kinda tough to believe either tbh. The three tanks are not hard to understand. I could easily picture a hippo killing a bear in a fight to the death.
However, I’m most interested in how many zombies per 20 second interval each could dispose of. While the tanks would beat the bear individually, I’m arguing that a bear could quickly move from zombie to zombie at a much better rate than a hippo. Standing up straight is really nice here too for when things get cramped.
Post by Jake Jortles on Jun 12, 2020 20:21:41 GMT -5
Also tbh Im not really looking to ride an animal unless its a horse. I absolutely would not want to ride a giraffe. If you fall off you may break a damn bone. Im not buying that a hyena is a good ride. And if you ride your rhino, you are subtracting from your best weapon.
A 25 foot anaconda usually suffocates animals in real life, but since each animal understands the situation, our anaconda will not do that. We will have a 25 ft monster that will strike and bite a zombie with precision. Even its body mass would be useful in at least impeding the progress of some zombies. Is the anaconda our selling point? No. Is it better than a flying fox? Yes. Is it better than any of the animals taken in the fourth round aside from maybe ostrich (seal, rat, crab, flying fox, anteater)? Yes.
Post by Jake Jortles on Jun 12, 2020 20:25:31 GMT -5
One thing I will say is, I voted for Myself, Cdev and then I basically had to flip a coin between Monie and Jaz. Chose monie, but have no idea how Jaz had the fewest votes with this squad. Definitely a formidable team and Im loving that giraffe gif lol
Please know that with a diseased mosquito I will never lose. It is an automatic draw at the minimum since they will drop dead a week later.
There seems to be a pretty universal acceptance that zombies would not have an active circulatory system. Also, they're already dead. Not sure what disease you think a single mosquito will inflict that will worsen that condition.
Jortloo (Grizzly Bear, Croc, Forrest Hog, Anaconda) vs Jaz (Hippo, Hyena, Giraffe, Flying Fox) - Anaconda over Flying Fox
Monie (Elephant, Kangaroo, Baboon, Seal) vs Theo (Cape Buffalo, Parrot, Moose, Giant Anteater) - Seal & Parrot seem pretty unhelpful to me. Came down to Baboon & Seal vs Moose & Anteater.
NBF (Gorilla, Komodo Dragon, Camel, Coconut Crab) vs. Druid (Tasmanian Devil, Wolf, Horse, Capybara) - The sheer violence of the Gorilla won the day here. Wolves are most effective in a pack (a coyote would make a better solo dog). Komodo Dragons rely on the poison in their saliva to wear down their prey and that would not be helpful in this situation, though they're still powerful lizards. Tasmanian Devils and Camels have attitude. Coconut Crabs could do some damage. I'm not convinced that Cabybaras are aggressive enough to be effective.
Draft 2
JTR on bye. Will play the lowest seeded winner.
Tranter (Lion, Rhino, Ox, Tasmanian Devil) vs Dan (Anaconda, Wolf, Giraffe, Mosquito) - Tranter's got three solid warriors in the lion, rhino and ox. I'm not buying the utility of an anaconda or mosquito.
Youcool (Elephant, Komodo Dragon, Horse, Goat) vs Kanye (Dolphin, Honeybadger, Rat, Tortoise) - I'm happy that Kanye had fun with his lineup after he found out that he missed the brief on his first pick.
Dragon Energy (Hippo, Eagle, Moose, Giant Anteater) vs Maddog (Gorilla, Kangaroo, Ostrich, Racoon) - Hippo v Gorilla is a wash for me. Moose > Kangaroo. Ostrich > Eagle. Anteater > Racoon. A close matchup.
Tranter (Lion, Rhino, Ox, Tasmanian Devil) vs Dan (Anaconda, Wolf, Giraffe, Mosquito)
Youcool (Elephant, Komodo Dragon, Horse, Goat) vs Kanye (Dolphin, Honeybadger, Rat, Tortoise)
Dragon Energy (Hippo, Eagle, Moose, Giant Anteater) vs Maddog (Gorilla, Kangaroo, Ostrich, Racoon)
Please just reference the poll threads if you need to see the marketing again. I'm hoping this is where we get into some debates and more humor is produced. Vote up!
Jortloo (Grizzly Bear, Croc, Forrest Hog, Anaconda) vs Jaz (Hippo, Hyena, Giraffe, Flying Fox) Jortloo has a fierce duo with the grizzly and the croc. If you could combine that with Jaz's hippo and hyena you'd be unstoppable. Unfortunately I think the hog and the anaconda are a better second half than the giraffe and flying fox. Monie (Elephant, Kangaroo, Baboon, Seal) vs Theo (Cape Buffalo, Parrot, Moose, Giant Anteater) Don't underestimate the strength, smarts and toughness of the elephant. Then the kangaroo's speed and power and baboon's scrappiness are nice compliments. The seal is just for the cuteness.. though they can be tough too. Any swimming zombies don't stand a chance.
NBF (Gorilla, Komodo Dragon, Camel, Coconut Crab) vs. Druid (Tasmanian Devil, Wolf, Horse, Capybara) This one is the hardest. But I think the gorilla would be a force to reckon with. And the coconut crab is such an inspired and terrifying choice.
Draft 2
Tranter (Lion, Rhino, Ox, Tasmanian Devil) vs Dan (Anaconda, Wolf, Giraffe, Mosquito) Lion, Rino, Ox is a tough trio.
Youcool (Elephant, Komodo Dragon, Horse, Goat) vs Kanye (Dolphin, Honeybadger, Rat, Tortoise) I really want to vote for Kanye here. I love his rag tag team of misfits... but I have to go with who I think would actually survive more than 2 days in the zombie apocalypse. If we were voting for the team with the most heart, Kanye would have this in the bag tho.
Dragon Energy (Hippo, Eagle, Moose, Giant Anteater) vs Maddog (Gorilla, Kangaroo, Ostrich, Racoon) Again, a gorilla would be terrifying. And the kangaroo and ostrich are both fast and powerful - don't fuck with Aussies man. And the Racoon is like my baboon, scrappy and can hold tools.
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Can someone talk me through a kangaroo being great here?
Just type in Kangaroo fights on google. When they do that jump / 90 degree kick with both legs that would be perfect for dropping zombies quickly.
Sure they fight but they don’t really deal killing blows. I don’t really see them punching through the skull of tons of zombies. One good piece of data. Kangaroos are much more aggressive than anteaters, in the last decade anteaters have killed at least two humans while the last recorded and I think only recorded kangaroo killing of a human was in 1936.
The op is suggesting the zombies are fairly easy to knock down.
Idk need it to clear huge paths. In situations where there aren't hoards of zombies they'll do fine. In situations where there are lots of zombies it's kicks and tail should keep them from being overwhelmed. In situations where zombies are in even more overwhelming numbers they're good to run away.
The op is suggesting the zombies are fairly easy to knock down.
Idk need it to clear huge paths. In situations where there aren't hoards of zombies they'll do fine. In situations where there are lots of zombies it's kicks and tail should keep them from being overwhelmed. In situations where zombies are in even more overwhelming numbers they're good to run away.
it’s not like I’m saying it couldn’t do any damage but multiple people keep calling it a great pick and I think it’s being overvalued. Doesn’t have the tank capabilities or all out killing abilities of other animals here.
Think this one is pretty close. Jaz has the hippo and giraffe which are both powerhouses, but I think the grizzly bear is a better tank since it will also deal a good amount of damage. I think the Hyena is a great pick too, but is a step down from a croc or an anaconda. Hog and fox are both meh to me. Both squads will have an easy time surviving.
Monie (Elephant, Kangaroo, Baboon, Seal) vs Theo (Cape Buffalo, Parrot, Moose, Giant Anteater)
Monie has the Kangaroo which is one of the most badass animals, you have intelligence, raw power, and it can probably tank a lot of damage. I will say I do give points to theo's parrot pick as it can be used for diversions or death by a thousand cuts method.
In the end I think a camel is a sneaky good pick, and has more reliability than a horse. I also NBF team comp is one of the best here. You get some raw power and agility from the crab and komodo dragon combo, while also having the tanking abilities of the gorilla and camel. Not to mention the camel is a great mount, and won't take up much resources in a apocalypse scenario
Draft 2
Tranter (Lion, Rhino, Ox, Tasmanian Devil) vs Dan (Anaconda, Wolf, Giraffe, Mosquito)
Voting for myself. T is pretty stacked though and the rhino, ox, lion combo may end up winning in the end. So much power and weight.
Youcool (Elephant, Komodo Dragon, Horse, Goat) vs Kanye (Dolphin, Honeybadger, Rat, Tortoise)
This may end up being a controversial vote, but I think kanye's team is extremely versatile. In any situation I think the mix of animals will lead to survival. The intelligence of a dolphin is also being overlooked I think. Rat seems like a accidental pick, but he can run science experiments on it to find a cure for the zombies. I think horse and goat are very underwhelming picks from you cool.
Dragon Energy (Hippo, Eagle, Moose, Giant Anteater) vs Maddog (Gorilla, Kangaroo, Ostrich, Racoon)
My kangaroo bias may be showing again, but when you combine it with a gorilla and ostrich I think mad dogs team is an absolute powerhouse. Eagle and anteater imo won't be very effective against zombies, and a hippo and moose will not too enough damage.
