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Sorry. Budget season. Probably later this week. I'm considering moving the cutoff to 12/31/14 to get some more inactive acts eligible.
Eh I like the date it is now. There are more than enough deceased and/or defunct acts for people to choose from. Moving the date to mid-10s opens the door to a lot of bands that would seem way too current.
def for any changes that widen the eligibility pool
I’m the opposite. Force people to get creative.
as a stupid baby child whos doing his best not to get burned out from 6 consecutive drafts, I think more leeway / better lineups is the best way to keep people interested.
as a stupid baby child whos doing his best not to get burned out from 6 consecutive drafts, I think more leeway / better lineups is the best way to keep people interested.
Im not sure. Making the drafts as different from each other as possible is prob a good thing but I dont have a strong opinion here. What gets allowed bu this change beyond Kate Bush Daft Punk and Outkast?
as a stupid baby child whos doing his best not to get burned out from 6 consecutive drafts, I think more leeway / better lineups is the best way to keep people interested.
Im not sure. Making the drafts as different from each other as possible is prob a good thing but I dont have a strong opinion here. What gets allowed bu this change beyond Kate Bush Daft Punk and Outkast?
I’m not sure, and def don’t have the time to research w the other draft as active as ever, hence why I just think it’s smart to heir on the side of more flexibility, considering we aren’t sure how many participants this will have.
as a stupid baby child whos doing his best not to get burned out from 6 consecutive drafts, I think more leeway / better lineups is the best way to keep people interested.
Im not sure. Making the drafts as different from each other as possible is prob a good thing but I dont have a strong opinion here. What gets allowed bu this change beyond Kate Bush Daft Punk and Outkast?
Beastie Boys come to mind. I'd have to go back and redo my list to see who I ruled out that should be in.
Or maybe it's a matter of including acts who have had members die and have not recorded new music or toured since. That's the real gray area between the two qualifiers.
And instead of saying all of your goodbyes - let them know you realize that life goes fast - It's hard to make the good things last-you realize the sun doesn't go down - It's just an illusion caused by the world spinning round
I was able to do a full inactive/dead lineup in the first infinity draft, but majority of people didn't know most of the acts
I just checked your lineup on the first page of that thread and there’s only 4 I don’t know. Kind of encouraging in a way. People are going to need to do some real digging
And instead of saying all of your goodbyes - let them know you realize that life goes fast - It's hard to make the good things last-you realize the sun doesn't go down - It's just an illusion caused by the world spinning round
I was able to do a full inactive/dead lineup in the first infinity draft, but majority of people didn't know most of the acts
I just checked your lineup on the first page of that thread and there’s only 4 I don’t know. Kind of encouraging in a way. People are going to need to do some real digging
It was sort of tough but I was able to get a lot I wanted because people were picking current things.
Right now we're looking like we're gonna roll with significantly less than twenty. It'll make to OP a bit of a pain but there aren't a ton of rounds. The upshot is that there will be a lot more acts to go around. 220 drafted and up to 75 UDFAs.
Right now we're looking like we're gonna roll with significantly less than twenty. It'll make to OP a bit of a pain but there aren't a ton of rounds. The upshot is that there will be a lot more acts to go around. 220 drafted and up to 75 UDFAs.
I think sticking with the original act cut off date is the best idea, then. I would actually love it if you could only draft acts that had at least one dead member, but alas.
Anyway, I feel like a group like the beastie boys should be eligible. Yeah they dropped an album in 2011 but their last show was 2009 and a member died in 2012, with no hint that they’d play without him. Different from say ATCQ who toured after Phife died. Just my two cents.
Right now we're looking like we're gonna roll with significantly less than twenty. It'll make to OP a bit of a pain but there aren't a ton of rounds. The upshot is that there will be a lot more acts to go around. 220 drafted and up to 75 UDFAs.
I think sticking with the original act cut off date is the best idea, then. I would actually love it if you could only draft acts that had at least one dead member, but alas.
Anyway, I feel like a group like the beastie boys should be eligible. Yeah they dropped an album in 2011 but their last show was 2009 and a member died in 2012, with no hint that they’d play without him. Different from say ATCQ who toured after Phife died. Just my two cents.
He was still recording new material while in treatment in 2010 and 2011, though.
Just trying to avoid these polls of if someone's eligible or not. Some acts have had several bands members die and just kept going. Others lose a member and none of the surviving members ever release music again.
I'm open to tweaking the rules but I think we need something firm or we'll get mired down in polls and arguments.
I think sticking with the original act cut off date is the best idea, then. I would actually love it if you could only draft acts that had at least one dead member, but alas.
Anyway, I feel like a group like the beastie boys should be eligible. Yeah they dropped an album in 2011 but their last show was 2009 and a member died in 2012, with no hint that they’d play without him. Different from say ATCQ who toured after Phife died. Just my two cents.
He was still recording new material while in treatment in 2010 and 2011, though.
Just trying to avoid these polls of if someone's eligible or not. Some acts have had several bands members die and just kept going. Others lose a member and none of the surviving members ever release music again.
I'm open to tweaking the rules but I think we need something firm or we'll get mired down in polls and arguments.
I think something like, if a member of a group died and the group hasn’t recorded anything new (posthumous doesn’t count) and hasn’t toured sans the dead member, that group is eligible. So someone like the Beasties (who haven’t done anything since MCA died) are okay, while ATCQ (who did a whole tour after Phife died) are not.
Post by Jake Jortles on Oct 20, 2020 8:20:42 GMT -5
cdevaney what was the reason for including some living acts and excluding some dead acts? Why not just say any act with a dead member that significantly contributed to songwriting will come back in their prime for this draft? Allow ATCQ but not Outkast imo. I'm excited to play either way but it does seem odd.
cdevaney what was the reason for including some living acts and excluding some dead acts? Why not just say any act with a dead member that significantly contributed to songwriting will come back in their prime for this draft? Allow ATCQ but not Outkast imo. I'm excited to play either way but it does seem odd.
There should be no living acts with any activity in the last decade, rendering them effectively retired.
The problem with acts with deceased members is that every act handles it differently. Sometimes they continue on, sometimes they don't. There's no rhyme or reason to it so it's hard to make a catch-all rule. Defining "significantly contributed to songwriting" is challenging and not a perfect definition because there are some artists that just don't contribute in that way and there are some acts that just credit the whole band.
cdevaney what was the reason for including some living acts and excluding some dead acts? Why not just say any act with a dead member that significantly contributed to songwriting will come back in their prime for this draft? Allow ATCQ but not Outkast imo. I'm excited to play either way but it does seem odd.
There should be no living acts with any activity in the last decade, rendering them effectively retired.
The problem with acts with deceased members is that every act handles it differently. Sometimes they continue on, sometimes they don't. There's no rhyme or reason to it so it's hard to make a catch-all rule. Defining "significantly contributed to songwriting" is challenging and not a perfect definition because there are some artists that just don't contribute in that way and there are some acts that just credit the whole band.
Yeah I like the way it's presently constructed. Some bands lose members and keep on touring (the Who, Metallica, etc.) and some hang it up for good. I do think that the pool couldd be expanded to acts that have released material and/or played shows since 2010, but only if those acts have lost a member since then with no future activity. The Beastie Boys are (I think) the best example of this, but I'm sure there are others.
