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There should be no living acts with any activity in the last decade, rendering them effectively retired.
The problem with acts with deceased members is that every act handles it differently. Sometimes they continue on, sometimes they don't. There's no rhyme or reason to it so it's hard to make a catch-all rule. Defining "significantly contributed to songwriting" is challenging and not a perfect definition because there are some artists that just don't contribute in that way and there are some acts that just credit the whole band.
Yeah I like the way it's presently constructed. Some bands lose members and keep on touring (the Who, Metallica, etc.) and some hang it up for good. I do think that the pool couldd be expanded to acts that have released material and/or played shows since 2010, but only if those acts have lost a member since then with no future activity. The Beastie Boys are (I think) the best example of this, but I'm sure there are others.
So the rule would be an act is eligible if they haven't played or recorded new material since losing a member?
Shouldn't there be cutoff for that? Like, Van Halen just lost Eddie Van Halen but there are still a couple of Van Halens playing music and they could conceivably (if ill-advisedly) carry on in the future. It's just too recent. Also, Covid.
That's why I went with 2010. I'm happy to move that date if the group wants to, though.
Yeah I like the way it's presently constructed. Some bands lose members and keep on touring (the Who, Metallica, etc.) and some hang it up for good. I do think that the pool couldd be expanded to acts that have released material and/or played shows since 2010, but only if those acts have lost a member since then with no future activity. The Beastie Boys are (I think) the best example of this, but I'm sure there are others.
So the rule would be an act is eligible if they haven't played or recorded new material since losing a member?
Shouldn't there be cutoff for that? Like, Van Halen just lost Eddie Van Halen but there are still a couple of Van Halens playing music and they could conceivably (if ill-advisedly) carry on in the future. It's just too recent. Also, Covid.
That's why I went with 2010. I'm happy to move that date if the group wants to, though.
I'd be fine moving the date out for acts with deceased members, but not for "inactive" acts. Wayyyyy too many bands that most likely aren't truly inactive that haven't done much/anything in the lat 5-6 years.
But yeah you raise a valid point. Like if a solo artist died in the last year then I think it's safe to say they're eligible, but it's too soon to tell with groups. I'd be stunned if Van Halen tours again but it's not out of the realm of possibility.
So the rule would be an act is eligible if they haven't played or recorded new material since losing a member?
Shouldn't there be cutoff for that? Like, Van Halen just lost Eddie Van Halen but there are still a couple of Van Halens playing music and they could conceivably (if ill-advisedly) carry on in the future. It's just too recent. Also, Covid.
That's why I went with 2010. I'm happy to move that date if the group wants to, though.
I'd be fine moving the date out for acts with deceased members, but not for "inactive" acts. Wayyyyy too many bands that most likely aren't truly inactive that haven't done much/anything in the lat 5-6 years.
But yeah you raise a valid point. Like if a solo artist died in the last year then I think it's safe to say they're eligible, but it's too soon to tell with groups. I'd be stunned if Van Halen tours again but it's not out of the realm of possibility.
I think it's more likely that roth/hagar do solo things and loop in other members.
Yeah I like the way it's presently constructed. Some bands lose members and keep on touring (the Who, Metallica, etc.) and some hang it up for good. I do think that the pool couldd be expanded to acts that have released material and/or played shows since 2010, but only if those acts have lost a member since then with no future activity. The Beastie Boys are (I think) the best example of this, but I'm sure there are others.
So the rule would be an act is eligible if they haven't played or recorded new material since losing a member?
Shouldn't there be cutoff for that? Like, Van Halen just lost Eddie Van Halen but there are still a couple of Van Halens playing music and they could conceivably (if ill-advisedly) carry on in the future. It's just too recent. Also, Covid.
That's why I went with 2010. I'm happy to move that date if the group wants to, though.
already been named on this page so im just gonna ask, did we ever clear up this concept? because i feel like no touring / music after losing a member post 2010 should be still be considered Inactive
So I’m all about having the number one pick because I’ve never had that but I can’t believe I have to wake up at 8am here 😂😂. Time to figure out who I want to go and set an alarm
And instead of saying all of your goodbyes - let them know you realize that life goes fast - It's hard to make the good things last-you realize the sun doesn't go down - It's just an illusion caused by the world spinning round
So I’m all about having the number one pick because I’ve never had that but I can’t believe I have to wake up at 8am here 😂😂. Time to figure out who I want to go and set an alarm
So the rule would be an act is eligible if they haven't played or recorded new material since losing a member?
Shouldn't there be cutoff for that? Like, Van Halen just lost Eddie Van Halen but there are still a couple of Van Halens playing music and they could conceivably (if ill-advisedly) carry on in the future. It's just too recent. Also, Covid.
That's why I went with 2010. I'm happy to move that date if the group wants to, though.
already been named on this page so im just gonna ask, did we ever clear up this concept? because i feel like no touring / music after losing a member post 2010 should be still be considered Inactive
They recorded new music into late 2011, according to Mike D, so they would've been active after the cutoff.
already been named on this page so im just gonna ask, did we ever clear up this concept? because i feel like no touring / music after losing a member post 2010 should be still be considered Inactive
They recorded new music into late 2011, according to Mike D, so they would've been active after the cutoff.
but the Yauch death happening after that, with no new music or shows since, doesn't overrule that?
They recorded new music into late 2011, according to Mike D, so they would've been active after the cutoff.
but the Yauch death happening after that, with no new music or shows since, doesn't overrule that?
The Yauch death happened after 2009, the cutoff for performances or recording new music. He'd theoretically be eligible as a solo performer but Beasties are not eligible.
And instead of saying all of your goodbyes - let them know you realize that life goes fast - It's hard to make the good things last-you realize the sun doesn't go down - It's just an illusion caused by the world spinning round
And instead of saying all of your goodbyes - let them know you realize that life goes fast - It's hard to make the good things last-you realize the sun doesn't go down - It's just an illusion caused by the world spinning round
but the Yauch death happening after that, with no new music or shows since, doesn't overrule that?
The Yauch death happened after 2009, the cutoff for performances or recording new music. He'd theoretically be eligible as a solo performer but Beasties are not eligible.
Right but this is what was proposed- that a group which loses a member after the cut off date, and has no activity after losing that member should be eligible.
The Yauch death happened after 2009, the cutoff for performances or recording new music. He'd theoretically be eligible as a solo performer but Beasties are not eligible.
Right but this is what was proposed- that a group which loses a member after the cut off date, and has no activity after losing that member should be eligible.
