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We've reached the point where the Republican base and most of their low level legislators are more concerned about owning the libs and pissing off Democrats than the economy.
They rather stick it to people they don't like, even if it negatively impacts them in the end.
11/19: Caribou 11/22: Ranger Trucco 11/29: Armand Van Helden* 1/16: L'Impératrice 1/30: Jamie xx 2/1: DJ Seinfeld 2/7: Mild Minds* 3/1: Father John Misty* 3/19: Confidence Man 3/23: DARKSIDE 5/8: Rüfüs Du Sol
11/19: Caribou 11/22: Ranger Trucco 11/29: Armand Van Helden* 1/16: L'Impératrice 1/30: Jamie xx 2/1: DJ Seinfeld 2/7: Mild Minds* 3/1: Father John Misty* 3/19: Confidence Man 3/23: DARKSIDE 5/8: Rüfüs Du Sol
Y’all vultures get your own festivals and stop trying to steal this one before it’s officially dead here, damn.
i kid. i really hope it doesnt go away or have to move. this is entirely fucked and unfair that republicans are now ruining music festivals of all things
Here is a synopsis of the sequence of events that led to the cancelation of Music Midtown, and is threatening Shaky Knees and any other events on public property in Georgia: -In 2014, Phillip Evans (Phil_E_54-99 on Reddit, profile now scrubbed) was kicked out of the Atlanta Botanical Garden for open carrying a handgun -Phillip Evans sued, claiming his rights under OCGA § 16-11-127 were violated -The law in question permits individuals to carry weapons onto public property (with certain exceptions, including courthouses) -The Atlanta Botanical Garden is located on property owned by the City of Atlanta, and is therefore on public property -The case bounced through the court system, including up to the Supreme Court of Georgia, multiple times over the subsequent 8 years -The core question in the case was "whether the specific lease in question creates an estate for years or a usufruct", which in simpler terms means whether the Atlanta Botanical Garden's lease with the City of Atlanta created a condition whereby the Atlanta Botanical Garden essentially operates as private property pursuant to OCGA § 16-11-27 (c) -In 2022, the Court of Appeals of Georgia decided that the Atlanta Botanical Garden's lease with the City of Atlanta did create an "estate for years", meaning the Atlanta Botanical Gardens in essence operates as private property, therefore allowing the Atlanta Botanical Gardens to regulate firearms under OCGA § 16-11-127 -The decision favoring the Atlanta Botanical Gardens largely (but not entirely) hinged on the long term (50 year) nature of the lease with the City of Atlanta -While a long term lease over public land does not guarantee "an estate for years", it is almost assuredly a necessary condition, per the court decision -Therefore, under the court's decision, the logical and likely legally correct assumption is that organizations with short term leases over public land, such as Music Midtown or Shaky Knees, would not be able to create "an estate for years", meaning their events would be considered to be held on public property, and these organizations would therefore be unable to regulate firearms at their events -There are a number of reasons that the inability to regulate firearms is an immediate death knell for events such as Music Midtown or Shaky Knees (a) Many musicians have clauses in their riders prohibiting publicly held firearms at events at which they perform (b) It would be costly and difficult, if not impossible, to find an insurance company willing to cover a large scale festival with public carry (c) Even if insurance could be secured, the organizers of events would still have to feel confident that they could provide a safe experience for attendees before giving the go-ahead (d) Even if (b) and (c) were met, the entity granting the permit for the event might decide that it is no longer safe to hold the event, and could pull the permit (e) Even if (b) and (c) were met, and the event retained its permit, it is plausible that enough people would be discouraged from buying tickets that it would be difficult or impossible to sell enough tickets to turn a profit -Organizations are still allowed to regulate firearms on fully private property, but the rumor is that Music Midtown did not have enough time to find an alternative venue -One more note--the individual who sued the Atlanta Botanical Gardens (Phillip Evans) has indicated he may sue other venues on public property such as Cadence Bank Amphitheatre (which is within Chastain Park) -Rulings in such future cases, even if the venues/organizations have long term leases over the public property, may turn out differently, as establishing "an estate for years" is more complex than simply showing a long term lease, and also hinges on a variety of other factors -You can read the entire Court of Appeals of Georgia ruling here: casetext.com/case/georgiacarryorg-v-the-atlanta-botanical-garden-inc
Here is a synopsis of the sequence of events that led to the cancelation of Music Midtown, and is threatening Shaky Knees and any other events on public property in Georgia: -In 2014, Phillip Evans (Phil_E_54-99 on Reddit, profile now scrubbed) was kicked out of the Atlanta Botanical Garden for open carrying a handgun -Phillip Evans sued, claiming his rights under OCGA § 16-11-127 were violated -The law in question permits individuals to carry weapons onto public property (with certain exceptions, including courthouses) -The Atlanta Botanical Garden is located on property owned by the City of Atlanta, and is therefore on public property -The case bounced through the court system, including up to the Supreme Court of Georgia, multiple times over the subsequent 8 years -The core question in the case was "whether the specific lease in question creates an estate for years or a usufruct", which in simpler terms means whether the Atlanta Botanical Garden's lease with the City of Atlanta created a condition whereby the Atlanta Botanical Garden essentially operates as private property pursuant to OCGA § 16-11-27 (c) -In 2022, the Court of Appeals of Georgia decided that the Atlanta Botanical Garden's lease with the City of Atlanta did create an "estate for years", meaning the Atlanta Botanical Gardens in essence operates as private property, therefore allowing the Atlanta Botanical Gardens to regulate firearms under OCGA § 16-11-127 -The decision favoring the Atlanta Botanical Gardens largely (but not entirely) hinged on the long term (50 year) nature of the lease with the City of Atlanta -While a long term lease over public land does not guarantee "an estate for years", it is almost assuredly a necessary condition, per the court decision -Therefore, under the court's decision, the logical and likely legally correct assumption is that organizations with short term leases over public land, such as Music Midtown or Shaky Knees, would not be able to create "an estate for years", meaning their events would be considered to be held on public property, and these organizations would therefore be unable to regulate firearms at their events -There are a number of reasons that the inability to regulate firearms is an immediate death knell for events such as Music Midtown or Shaky Knees (a) Many musicians have clauses in their riders prohibiting publicly held firearms at events at which they perform (b) It would be costly and difficult, if not impossible, to find an insurance company willing to cover a large scale festival with public carry (c) Even if insurance could be secured, the organizers of events would still have to feel confident that they could provide a safe experience for attendees before giving the go-ahead (d) Even if (b) and (c) were met, the entity granting the permit for the event might decide that it is no longer safe to hold the event, and could pull the permit (e) Even if (b) and (c) were met, and the event retained its permit, it is plausible that enough people would be discouraged from buying tickets that it would be difficult or impossible to sell enough tickets to turn a profit -Organizations are still allowed to regulate firearms on fully private property, but the rumor is that Music Midtown did not have enough time to find an alternative venue -One more note--the individual who sued the Atlanta Botanical Gardens (Phillip Evans) has indicated he may sue other venues on public property such as Cadence Bank Amphitheatre (which is within Chastain Park) -Rulings in such future cases, even if the venues/organizations have long term leases over the public property, may turn out differently, as establishing "an estate for years" is more complex than simply showing a long term lease, and also hinges on a variety of other factors -You can read the entire Court of Appeals of Georgia ruling here: casetext.com/case/georgiacarryorg-v-the-atlanta-botanical-garden-inc
Is the law completely fucked? Yes but what an asshat who is going out of their way to sue other establishments for it as well. Sorry for music lovers in Atlanta as this may be the end of a lot.
Y’all vultures get your own festivals and stop trying to steal this one before it’s officially dead here, damn.
All I'm saying is, if I'm a ranking official in a mid size city in a blue state - I'm at least sending offers to fest organizers (not LN) in GA and see if they'd move.
Maybe Hell will freeze over and Georgia will fix the law regarding private events like festivals.
I'm hoping at least they (SK) can find a private space to rent out near ATL - so they can proceed like normal. But at least keep options open, if they can't. I'd rather have SK in (let's say) New Jersey somewhere than not at all.
Post by dawgfan24348 on Aug 1, 2022 17:57:20 GMT -5
Man seeing Shaky going on in a state across the country would be like seeing an ex with her new bf and the only reason it ended was because of some random bullshit
Post by xfinitypass on Aug 2, 2022 13:30:48 GMT -5
Incoming rebrand to Shaky Fingers. Guns allowed. Country music only. Vaccine un-check (5G scanner). Criminal Records stage named changed to No Criminal Background Check. Peachtree to Steak and Potato Tree. Piedmont to Seedaunt. Ponce de Leon could stay the same, but they’d probably rename it to Christopher Columbus because they know who that is.
Kid Rock - Eric Clapton - Tom Macdonald
Don’t worry, your Shaky tattoo will still get you free admission. No formal program, the logo just looks enough like a swastika
Seen someone mention that Centennial might be able to host Shaky and I guess 420fest since it’s technically owned by the Georgia World Congress Center
Centennial Park is owned/operated by Georgia World Congress Center, but Georgia World Congress Center is owned by the State of Georgia, according to the interwebs. So, that's a no go.
Seen someone mention that Centennial might be able to host Shaky and I guess 420fest since it’s technically owned by the Georgia World Congress Center
Centennial Park is owned/operated by Georgia World Congress Center, but Georgia World Congress Center is owned by the State of Georgia, according to the interwebs. So, that's a no go.
If Georgia World Congress Center has a long term lease then doesn't that allow them to get around the problem?
