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Sure, the fact that both Killers and Florence recently played the Garden means that their fans who'd pay to see their own headlining dates might be satisfied for awhile, but far more people know and like Mr. Brightside and Dog Days than anything Paramore has ever done. Every great Boston Calling headliner would be a great TD Garden headliner, but not every great TD Garden headliner would be a great Boston Calling headliner.
Also, there's a distinct possibility that Paramore has overestimated their popularity and they'll be playing to a lot of empty sections on their arena tour.
Why do you enjoy routinely embarrassing yourself like this? lol Like I’ve never seen this level of being unable to accept taking an L in my life. You have been wrong about Paramore every time you talk about them.
Are you literally claiming that more people know Misery Business than know Dog Days or Mr. Brightside? Seriously?
Sure, the fact that both Killers and Florence recently played the Garden means that their fans who'd pay to see their own headlining dates might be satisfied for awhile, but far more people know and like Mr. Brightside and Dog Days than anything Paramore has ever done. Every great Boston Calling headliner would be a great TD Garden headliner, but not every great TD Garden headliner would be a great Boston Calling headliner.
Also, there's a distinct possibility that Paramore has overestimated their popularity and they'll be playing to a lot of empty sections on their arena tour.
Curious if you thought the same about MCR when they announced their big tour and thought they were just some joke. Or is it just the misogyny we all see so clearly now.
i still can't get over my man saying he'd rather have tucker carlson headline than paramore
Apparently before he even listened to them too.
It's not about whether I like an artist or not, it's about who will sell the most passes. With a multi-genre festival, the better known an artist is to the greatest number of people, the better they are for the top line.
Paramore may be a bigger draw on their own headlining dates than Miley Cyrus is on hers, but Miley Cyrus is much better known to many more people than Paramore, so she'd be a better choice to headline Boston Calling.
Sure, the fact that both Killers and Florence recently played the Garden means that their fans who'd pay to see their own headlining dates might be satisfied for awhile, but far more people know and like Mr. Brightside and Dog Days than anything Paramore has ever done. Every great Boston Calling headliner would be a great TD Garden headliner, but not every great TD Garden headliner would be a great Boston Calling headliner.
Also, there's a distinct possibility that Paramore has overestimated their popularity and they'll be playing to a lot of empty sections on their arena tour.
Curious if you thought the same about MCR when they announced their big tour and thought they were just some joke. Or is it just the misogyny we all see so clearly now.
How is it misogynistic to suggest that Florence, Stevie Nicks, Miley Cyrus, or Lizzo might all sell more one day or three day passes than Paramore?
Sure, the fact that both Killers and Florence recently played the Garden means that their fans who'd pay to see their own headlining dates might be satisfied for awhile, but far more people know and like Mr. Brightside and Dog Days than anything Paramore has ever done. Every great Boston Calling headliner would be a great TD Garden headliner, but not every great TD Garden headliner would be a great Boston Calling headliner.
Also, there's a distinct possibility that Paramore has overestimated their popularity and they'll be playing to a lot of empty sections on their arena tour.
Curious if you thought the same about MCR when they announced their big tour and thought they were just some joke. Or is it just the misogyny we all see so clearly now.
MCR would have been a strong Boston Calling booking if it was their first visit to Boston since the reunion, but not so much now. The Strokes wouldn't be a good Boston Calling headliner had they played Boston even remotely recently, but it's been 16 years and that changes the equation.
The whole punk pop emo thing plays well with the audience that's into that, but only Green Day, blink-182, and Fall Out Boy have crossed over in a major way to rock fans who don't pay much attention to punk pop emo. (Green Day is less a part of that scene than they are a band that helped to inspire that scene.)
Why do you enjoy routinely embarrassing yourself like this? lol Like I’ve never seen this level of being unable to accept taking an L in my life. You have been wrong about Paramore every time you talk about them.
Are you literally claiming that more people know Misery Business than know Dog Days or Mr. Brightside? Seriously?
You're the one who's wrong on that point.
Misery Business went 6x platinum as a single, Dog Days Are Over went 3x platinum. Paramore has approx 17m monthly listens on Spotify, Florence about 12m.
Why do you enjoy routinely embarrassing yourself like this? lol Like I’ve never seen this level of being unable to accept taking an L in my life. You have been wrong about Paramore every time you talk about them.
Are you literally claiming that more people know Misery Business than know Dog Days or Mr. Brightside? Seriously?
You're the one who's wrong on that point.
Mr Brightside is easily one of the biggest songs of all time so I won’t dispute that but Misery Business has been a bigger song than anything from Florence and I love Flo.
Are you literally claiming that more people know Misery Business than know Dog Days or Mr. Brightside? Seriously?
You're the one who's wrong on that point.
Misery Business went 6x platinum as a single, Dog Days Are Over went 3x platinum. Paramore has approx 17m monthly listens on Spotify, Florence about 12m.
Spotify plays and listener counts, as well as sales figures of singles, aren't always a great metric for a couple of reasons.
Different demographics listen to music differently. Florence's audience probably skews somewhat older than Paramore's audience and might be more oriented towards full album purchases, rather than singles, and may be doing more with vinyl albums, CDs, and downloads rather than streams, as well. That's going to impact the numbers.
Also, the younger the audience, the more likely they are to listen to that one artist or one song again and again and again on a streaming platform. That's how many of us were as kids, but the older you get, the more likely you are to vary your listening, so artists that appeal to a younger audience may get more plays on streaming platforms.
I'm a huge Hozier fan, but I wouldn't begin to claim that the 1.8 *billion* plays of Take Me To Church on Spotify mean that 1.8 billion people streamed that song. That one song connected with a lot of people and got a lot of repeat plays from a very diverse audience.
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Misery Business went 6x platinum as a single, Dog Days Are Over went 3x platinum. Paramore has approx 17m monthly listens on Spotify, Florence about 12m.
Spotify plays and listener counts, as well as sales figures of singles, aren't always a great metric for a couple of reasons.
Different demographics listen to music differently. Florence's audience probably skews somewhat older than Paramore's audience and might be more oriented towards full album purchases, rather than singles, and may be doing more with vinyl albums, CDs, and downloads rather than streams, as well. That's going to impact the numbers.
Also, the younger the audience, the more likely they are to listen to that one artist or one song again and again and again on a streaming platform. That's how many of us were as kids, but the older you get, the more likely you are to vary your listening, so artists that appeal to a younger audience may get more plays on streaming platforms.
I'm a huge Hozier fan, but I wouldn't begin to claim that the 1.8 *billion* plays of Take Me To Church on Spotify mean that 1.8 billion people streamed that song. That one song connected with a lot of people and got a lot of repeat plays from a very diverse audience.
buddy let me tell you, this is an extremely normal response
Misery Business went 6x platinum as a single, Dog Days Are Over went 3x platinum. Paramore has approx 17m monthly listens on Spotify, Florence about 12m.
Misery Business went 6x platinum as a single, Dog Days Are Over went 3x platinum. Paramore has approx 17m monthly listens on Spotify, Florence about 12m.
Spotify plays and listener counts, as well as sales figures of singles, aren't always a great metric for a couple of reasons.
Different demographics listen to music differently. Florence's audience probably skews somewhat older than Paramore's audience and might be more oriented towards full album purchases, rather than singles, and may be doing more with vinyl albums, CDs, and downloads rather than streams, as well. That's going to impact the numbers.
Also, the younger the audience, the more likely they are to listen to that one artist or one song again and again and again on a streaming platform. That's how many of us were as kids, but the older you get, the more likely you are to vary your listening, so artists that appeal to a younger audience may get more plays on streaming platforms.
I'm a huge Hozier fan, but I wouldn't begin to claim that the 1.8 *billion* plays of Take Me To Church on Spotify mean that 1.8 billion people streamed that song. That one song connected with a lot of people and got a lot of repeat plays from a very diverse audience.
Are you literally claiming that more people know Misery Business than know Dog Days or Mr. Brightside? Seriously?
You're the one who's wrong on that point.
Mr Brightside is easily one of the biggest songs of all time so I won’t dispute that but Misery Business has been a bigger song than anything from Florence and I love Flo.
It's no fault of Paramore or any other newer artist that the paradigm shifts related to how we listen to music make it much tougher for artists to break through to mass recognition these days.
Terrestrial radio, especially in specialty formats like alternative rock, isn't anywhere near as important or influential as it used to be. In the Boston area, if you were a WFNX or WBCN listener, you pretty much knew every artist they played regularly if you listened regularly.
It's becoming increasingly difficult for artists to get that kind of mass recognition when everyone's listening to specialized playlists, YouTube surfing, or sticking to what they know. But the ones who do, whose songs make that jump to what's left of top 40 radio, are generally going to be strong top line bookings, because more people know their songs.
Mr Brightside is easily one of the biggest songs of all time so I won’t dispute that but Misery Business has been a bigger song than anything from Florence and I love Flo.
It's no fault of Paramore or any other newer artist that the paradigm shifts related to how we listen to music make it much tougher for artists to break through to mass recognition these days.
Terrestrial radio, especially in specialty formats like alternative rock, isn't anywhere near as important or influential as it used to be. In the Boston area, if you were a WFNX or WBCN listener, you pretty much knew every artist they played regularly if you listened regularly.
It's becoming increasingly difficult for artists to get that kind of mass recognition when everyone's listening to specialized playlists, YouTube surfing, or sticking to what they know. But the ones who do, whose songs make that jump to what's left of top 40 radio, are generally going to be strong top line bookings, because more people know their songs.
Paramore isn't a new artist you ninny, and they broke through a long time ago. They literally just announced an arena tour and they're likely headlining Bonnaroo and Lollapalooza.
Post by Jeremy Fragrance on Nov 4, 2022 12:20:16 GMT -5
Yes Florence was bigger than Paramore at one point, I don’t think anyone would disagree with that, but it’s pretty clear that Paramore is more relevant right now
Mr Brightside is easily one of the biggest songs of all time so I won’t dispute that but Misery Business has been a bigger song than anything from Florence and I love Flo.
It's no fault of Paramore or any other newer artist that the paradigm shifts related to how we listen to music make it much tougher for artists to break through to mass recognition these days.
Terrestrial radio, especially in specialty formats like alternative rock, isn't anywhere near as important or influential as it used to be. In the Boston area, if you were a WFNX or WBCN listener, you pretty much knew every artist they played regularly if you listened regularly.
It's becoming increasingly difficult for artists to get that kind of mass recognition when everyone's listening to specialized playlists, YouTube surfing, or sticking to what they know. But the ones who do, whose songs make that jump to what's left of top 40 radio, are generally going to be strong top line bookings, because more people know their songs.
Paramore has been around for nearly 20 years and Misery Business *was* a top 40 hit in 2007. They had 2 more Top 40 hits in 2014 with Still Into You and Ain’t It Fun.
It's no fault of Paramore or any other newer artist that the paradigm shifts related to how we listen to music make it much tougher for artists to break through to mass recognition these days.
Terrestrial radio, especially in specialty formats like alternative rock, isn't anywhere near as important or influential as it used to be. In the Boston area, if you were a WFNX or WBCN listener, you pretty much knew every artist they played regularly if you listened regularly.
It's becoming increasingly difficult for artists to get that kind of mass recognition when everyone's listening to specialized playlists, YouTube surfing, or sticking to what they know. But the ones who do, whose songs make that jump to what's left of top 40 radio, are generally going to be strong top line bookings, because more people know their songs.
Paramore isn't a new artist you ninny, and they broke through a long time ago. They literally just announced an arena tour and they're likely headlining Bonnaroo and Lollapalooza.
Newer as in 2000's, as opposed to 70's - 90's when terrestrial radio was still the only game in town.
