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not sure what that has to do with anything but yeah that’s the place i was born and paid to go to school!
Well, there's a bit of the old "Pot Kettle Black" in someone from a state that ranks near the bottom of everything, including education, calling anyone stupid.
Are all Hozier fans like this? Serious question, never actually met one.
not sure what that has to do with anything but yeah that’s the place i was born and paid to go to school!
Well, there's a bit of the old "Pot Kettle Black" in someone from a state that ranks near the bottom of everything, including education, calling anyone stupid.
wow you've gone from just being a boomer to a total asshole
Well, there's a bit of the old "Pot Kettle Black" in someone from a state that ranks near the bottom of everything, including education, calling anyone stupid.
wow you've gone from just being a boomer to a total asshole
I give as good as I get. I'm not the one who started flinging personal insults.
It's also highly reductive to throw around the label "Boomer." I was too young to go to Vietnam, Haight Ashbury, or Woodstock, came of age during the era of Watergate disillusionment, and spent most of my twenties dealing with the repressive Reagan era and surrounded by people who showed photos of Flock Of Seagulls to their hairstylists and said "I want that." I was part of the first generation for which a bachelor's or grad degree didn't guarantee lifelong job security and the first generation for whom home ownership wasn't always achievable, even with gainful employment. My young adulthood was spent in the era of "Just Say No" and the very early messaging around AIDS which suggested that any bodily fluid exchange, even saliva, could be a death sentence. We collectively knew as much about HIV and AIDS in the early 80's as we did about COVID in 2020. That was all a far cry from the "Tune in, turn on, and drop out" and "Free Love" mantras of the 60's.
Oh, and except for a handful of one-off events here and there, like Heatwave in Toronto and Us Festival in California, music festivals really didn't exist in the U.S., at least not on the level that they do today or anything close to that. Altamont pretty much put a stop to music festivals in the U.S. for years. The era of touring festivals didn't really begin until the 90's, giving way in the early 2000's to the boom in fixed location festivals. The closest thing we had to festivals in my day were stadium shows with 3-5 acts on the bill.
I've got little in common with people who were born in the mid-40's through mid-50's and for whom a very different set of life experiences were available than were present for those born in 1955 and later.
he does have a point that Paramore randomly became a headliner level act without doing anything.
Usually, when an artist jumps up a lot in popularity, there's some tangible thing that can be identified as the reason for the leap, whether a particular hit single or album, a widely seen national TV appearance, song in a soundtrack or commercial (or video game), opening a high profile tour, etc.
Even a shout out from POTUS can be career-changing:
I understand the point that punk pop in general is having a moment in 2022 and that Paramore had great timing in being positioned to take advantage of that moment, both with the impending release of new music and landing the WWWY headlining gig, but it's not the usual situation where you can point to a specific thing as the prime motivating factor for a huge jump in popularity. Their new album isn't even out yet, however; even if it turns out to be remarkably popular, that obviously can't have happened yet.
When Phoenix headlined Coachella, everyone lost their mind but knew the reason was because GV was gambling on their new record exploding. Which, of course, it didn't, but the reason was evident why. And here's Paramore right before their comeback record..
There's clear momentum behind Paramore, and it doesn't hurt that they only grew in popularity despite having no music out in years. If the label is confident on their trajectory to book an entire arena tour and even push them to headline festivals (which they successfully have done twice), then I see no reason why BC would think they aren't worth putting on the top line.
And this is BC we are talking about. Not Coachella or Glastonbury. They probably played to as many people at ACL as the entire capacity of BC this last year.
When Phoenix headlined Coachella, everyone lost their mind but knew the reason was because GV was gambling on their new record exploding. Which, of course, it didn't, but the reason was evident why. And here's Paramore right before their comeback record..
There's clear momentum behind Paramore, and it doesn't hurt that they only grew in popularity despite having no music out in years. If the label is confident on their trajectory to book an entire arena tour and even push them to headline festivals (which they successfully have done twice), then I see no reason why BC would think they aren't worth putting on the top line.
And this is BC we are talking about. Not Coachella or Glastonbury. They probably played to as many people at ACL as the entire capacity of BC this last year.
exactly, also, even though we have “arena” headliners usually, Jack White headlined in 2018 and has never done a proper full arena tour. there is so much more momentum and excitement over this Paramore tour than i’ve seen for really any of the past headliners save for Eminem, Travis Scott or Tame Impala. The reach they have to my generation and millenials is undeniable and the buzz behind this arena tour only furthers that. the tour announcement was the #1 trending topic on twitter yesterday too
Speaking of Twitter - Paramore, MCR, and Kpop acts are the only acts that seem to regularly show up on my trending tab and I don't even listen to them really at all (and Ticketmaster also trends whenever people get fucked over trying to buy tickets for these artists' tours). Lots and lots and lots of people care about this band
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Speaking of Twitter - Paramore, MCR, and Kpop acts are the only acts that seem to regularly show up on my trending tab and I don't even listen to them really at all (and Ticketmaster also trends whenever people get fucked over trying to buy tickets for these artists' tours). Lots and lots and lots of people care about this band
i was shocked when i saw Mastodon was trending today and then i remembered about the app
Speaking of Twitter - Paramore, MCR, and Kpop acts are the only acts that seem to regularly show up on my trending tab and I don't even listen to them really at all (and Ticketmaster also trends whenever people get fucked over trying to buy tickets for these artists' tours). Lots and lots and lots of people care about this band
i was shocked when i saw Mastodon was trending today and then i remembered about the app
anyone saying it'll replace twitter is lying to you
When Phoenix headlined Coachella, everyone lost their mind but knew the reason was because GV was gambling on their new record exploding. Which, of course, it didn't, but the reason was evident why. And here's Paramore right before their comeback record..
There's clear momentum behind Paramore, and it doesn't hurt that they only grew in popularity despite having no music out in years. If the label is confident on their trajectory to book an entire arena tour and even push them to headline festivals (which they successfully have done twice), then I see no reason why BC would think they aren't worth putting on the top line.
And this is BC we are talking about. Not Coachella or Glastonbury. They probably played to as many people at ACL as the entire capacity of BC this last year.
exactly, also, even though we have “arena” headliners usually, Jack White headlined in 2018 and has never done a proper full arena tour. there is so much more momentum and excitement over this Paramore tour than i’ve seen for really any of the past headliners save for Eminem, Travis Scott or Tame Impala. The reach they have to my generation and millenials is undeniable and the buzz behind this arena tour only furthers that. the tour announcement was the #1 trending topic on twitter yesterday too
For the last six months or so, Twitter trending topics have been personalized for each user; have you noticed how it seems like things that you generally tweet about have been trending more this year?
Right now, the two trending sports topics on my page are Zappe and McDermott. I live in the Boston area and occasionally tweet disparaging remarks about the Pats, and I'm often tweeting about the Buffalo Bills. I'd bet that fans of other NFL teams and football fans who live outside of New England aren't seeing either of those names trending right now. (I see my hometown Rochester -- NY, in my case -- trend at least five times per week and when I click on the trend, nothing newsworthy or noteworthy shows up in the results, and there aren't enough recent tweets for it to be a trending topic. They've configured Twitter to work just like the programmatic ads you see on websites, which shows you ads that align with your own interests, or at least your own browsing habits.)
Speaking of Twitter - Paramore, MCR, and Kpop acts are the only acts that seem to regularly show up on my trending tab and I don't even listen to them really at all (and Ticketmaster also trends whenever people get fucked over trying to buy tickets for these artists' tours). Lots and lots and lots of people care about this band
The personalization can be specific or broad. I rarely ever watch pro wrestling anymore (I was a heel manager for some very minor league New England promotions 30 years ago), but I listen to Jim Cornette's podcasts and occasionally tweet about how bad wrestling is these days. "Hogan" just showed up in my trending topics, although I can't remember the last time I tweeted, or if I've ever tweeted, a mention of Hulk Hogan. But Twitter now pushes any anything wrestling-related to my trending topics.
Twitter trending topics are not a reliable measurement of anything, other than Twitter's ability to keep you glued to the site by tailoring content to match your specific interests or broader categories of interest.
Speaking of Twitter - Paramore, MCR, and Kpop acts are the only acts that seem to regularly show up on my trending tab and I don't even listen to them really at all (and Ticketmaster also trends whenever people get fucked over trying to buy tickets for these artists' tours). Lots and lots and lots of people care about this band
The personalization can be specific or broad. I rarely ever watch pro wrestling anymore (I was a heel manager for some very minor league New England promotions 30 years ago), but I listen to Jim Cornette's podcasts and occasionally tweet about how bad wrestling is these days. "Hogan" just showed up in my trending topics, although I can't remember the last time I tweeted, or if I've ever tweeted, a mention of Hulk Hogan. But Twitter now pushes any anything wrestling-related to my trending topics.
Twitter trending topics are not a reliable measurement of anything, other than Twitter's ability to keep you glued to the site by tailoring content to match your specific interests or broader categories of interest.
The personalization can be specific or broad. I rarely ever watch pro wrestling anymore (I was a heel manager for some very minor league New England promotions 30 years ago), but I listen to Jim Cornette's podcasts and occasionally tweet about how bad wrestling is these days. "Hogan" just showed up in my trending topics, although I can't remember the last time I tweeted, or if I've ever tweeted, a mention of Hulk Hogan. But Twitter now pushes any anything wrestling-related to my trending topics.
Twitter trending topics are not a reliable measurement of anything, other than Twitter's ability to keep you glued to the site by tailoring content to match your specific interests or broader categories of interest.
Yep, but I'm not wrong. Twitter *has* reconfigured Trending Topics to integrate a strong measure of personalization, just like some of the banner ads you see on various websites.
So, apparently tickets for the Paramore arena tour have various presales and the official onsale this week from Wednesday through Friday. While not every show that does well at the box office sells out immediately, early sales are a good indicator of demand.
The great thing about this is that either I'm going to be proven wrong by early next week about the band's popularity or you are. A look at available seating on Ticketmaster, including resale tickets bought only for secondary market profits, by early next week will provide a strong indication of whether they overestimated their popularity or have truly grown their audience significantly since their last tour.
Now, if the new album blows up in a major way next year, that could drive late ticket sales, but that, too, can be easily confirmed by looking at available seating on Ticketmaster closer to the tour dates.
They may wind up selling out arenas or repeating what happened to Kelly Clarkson in 2007:
Ticketmaster available seating charts are the DNA testing of the live music industry. We've all got our opinions, but there's an easily obtained and extremely reliable way to ascertain the truth here.
wow you've gone from just being a boomer to a total asshole
I give as good as I get. I'm not the one who started flinging personal insults.
It's also highly reductive to throw around the label "Boomer." I was too young to go to Vietnam, Haight Ashbury, or Woodstock, came of age during the era of Watergate disillusionment, and spent most of my twenties dealing with the repressive Reagan era and surrounded by people who showed photos of Flock Of Seagulls to their hairstylists and said "I want that." I was part of the first generation for which a bachelor's or grad degree didn't guarantee lifelong job security and the first generation for whom home ownership wasn't always achievable, even with gainful employment. My young adulthood was spent in the era of "Just Say No" and the very early messaging around AIDS which suggested that any bodily fluid exchange, even saliva, could be a death sentence. We collectively knew as much about HIV and AIDS in the early 80's as we did about COVID in 2020. That was all a far cry from the "Tune in, turn on, and drop out" and "Free Love" mantras of the 60's.
Oh, and except for a handful of one-off events here and there, like Heatwave in Toronto and Us Festival in California, music festivals really didn't exist in the U.S., at least not on the level that they do today or anything close to that. Altamont pretty much put a stop to music festivals in the U.S. for years. The era of touring festivals didn't really begin until the 90's, giving way in the early 2000's to the boom in fixed location festivals. The closest thing we had to festivals in my day were stadium shows with 3-5 acts on the bill.
I've got little in common with people who were born in the mid-40's through mid-50's and for whom a very different set of life experiences were available than were present for those born in 1955 and later.
Do we have any idea at all what other headliners might have a chance of playing this, just to have something else to talk about? lmao
nothing concrete, just people throwing out names. The best info we have is who isn’t playing rather than who is at the moment
Yeah, given who we know isn't playing the list of potential (likely) headliners seems smaller than usual. Really thankful that Muse isn't playing this though
