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Post by problem dog on Jul 26, 2022 16:42:55 GMT -5
Water shouldn't have won, but I get it. With the exception of one deranged person, everyone here drinks water everyday. Foundational/essential in a good way. Maybe one or two of you are actually listening to classical and blues on the reg, and none of you are impressing anybody by talking about influence or whatever. And those of you trying to claim straightforward rock bands as blues are going full clown.
Post by 3post1jack1 on Jul 26, 2022 16:48:09 GMT -5
so this is funny, i was just reading the wikipedia article on thrash metal:
The term "thrash metal" was first used in the music press by Kerrang! magazine's journalist Malcolm Dome[26] while making a reference to another of the "Big Four", Anthrax (who, like Metallica, formed in 1981), and their song "Metal Thrashing Mad".[27] Prior to this, Metallica frontman James Hetfield referred to his band's sound as speed metal or power metal.
the term "thrash" literally comes from an Anthrax song lol.
so this is funny, i was just reading the wikipedia article on thrash metal:
The term "thrash metal" was first used in the music press by Kerrang! magazine's journalist Malcolm Dome[26] while making a reference to another of the "Big Four", Anthrax (who, like Metallica, formed in 1981), and their song "Metal Thrashing Mad".[27] Prior to this, Metallica frontman James Hetfield referred to his band's sound as speed metal or power metal.
the term "thrash" literally comes from an Anthrax song lol.
True, but later they made a song called "teased up hair in your face" so...
WRITING 👏 SOMETHING 👏 THIS 👏 WAY 👏 DOESN'T👏 MAKE 👏 IT👏 TRUE👏
a. everyone knows clapping like that more better gets the point across
b. butt rock is pretty much defined by mainstream alt rock radio and PJ is all over that shit. quickly glancing my local station played PJ at 1 today between 3 doors down and finger eleven, they're firmly at home in butt rock
Go back to the original reply where I specifically mentioned them being much more thrash styled. Them, Celtic Frost, Venom, Slayer and Metallica were some of the crossover acts who had wider appeal. They weren’t some pussy ass shit like Winger. But they in total sound closer to hair metal than any of those mentioned contemporaries.
They were "thrash styled" because they were thrash. There was absolutely nothing hair metal about them except that the vocals weren't always as screamed as their contemporaries. They also did 2 rap songs so I guess they were hip hop too
Thrash with a hair metal sounding singer makes them hybrid. As you are aware there are plenty of thrash bands (metal and punk) that didn’t have screaming or grunting singers. ST same era (Lights Camera Revolution, How Will I Laugh Tomorrow) with Mike Muir is as hard musically and sounds way less like hair metal. I literally just saw Anthrax a couple years ago on a bill with Testament who I saw in the Thrash years. One of them sounded more like hair metal than the other. And that is the band I deem the closest I ever got to a hair metal show.
WRITING 👏 SOMETHING 👏 THIS 👏 WAY 👏 DOESN'T👏 MAKE 👏 IT👏 TRUE👏
a. everyone knows clapping like that more better gets the point across
b. butt rock is pretty much defined by mainstream alt rock radio and PJ is all over that shit. quickly glancing my local station played PJ at 1 today between 3 doors down and finger eleven, they're firmly at home in butt rock
They were "thrash styled" because they were thrash. There was absolutely nothing hair metal about them except that the vocals weren't always as screamed as their contemporaries. They also did 2 rap songs so I guess they were hip hop too
Thrash with a hair metal sounding singer makes them hybrid. As you are aware there are plenty of thrash bands (metal and punk) that didn’t have screaming or grunting singers. ST same era (Lights Camera Revolution, How Will I Laugh Tomorrow) with Mike Muir is as hard musically and sounds way less like hair metal. I literally just saw Anthrax a couple years ago on a bill with Testament who I saw in the Thrash years. One of them sounded more like hair metal than the other. And that is the band I deem the closest I ever got to a hair metal show.
You're moving the goalposts. First you said you proudly never saw a hair metal band until anthrax, and now you're saying that theyre the closest thing to a hair metal band you've seen. That's 2 different things
so this is funny, i was just reading the wikipedia article on thrash metal:
The term "thrash metal" was first used in the music press by Kerrang! magazine's journalist Malcolm Dome[26] while making a reference to another of the "Big Four", Anthrax (who, like Metallica, formed in 1981), and their song "Metal Thrashing Mad".[27] Prior to this, Metallica frontman James Hetfield referred to his band's sound as speed metal or power metal.
the term "thrash" literally comes from an Anthrax song lol.
We used the term thrash in the punk scene. There were hardcore and metal subgenres Skate thrash, Speed Core, Speed Metal and all those terms began coming into wider use in the mid 1980’s as underground metal and hardcore were assimilating among bands (DRI from Houston, Exhorder from New Orleans, etc) and their fans. DRI was crossover and maybe Spike wasn’t as great of a guitar soloist to get the speed metal moniker. No thrash bands I know of have any vocal sound anything like Joey Belladonna though harder works of some of the hair bands do. So it can be just thrash if that’s what you want. It’s a label. But I’m only willing to give it when the vocals are not present. Because when they are and I’m hearing his falsetto, it’s sounding a lot more like hair metal than any other thrash band I can think of.
Thrash with a hair metal sounding singer makes them hybrid. As you are aware there are plenty of thrash bands (metal and punk) that didn’t have screaming or grunting singers. ST same era (Lights Camera Revolution, How Will I Laugh Tomorrow) with Mike Muir is as hard musically and sounds way less like hair metal. I literally just saw Anthrax a couple years ago on a bill with Testament who I saw in the Thrash years. One of them sounded more like hair metal than the other. And that is the band I deem the closest I ever got to a hair metal show.
You're moving the goalposts. First you said you proudly never saw a hair metal band until anthrax, and now you're saying that theyre the closest thing to a hair metal band you've seen. That's 2 different things
They sounded like a hair metal band when I saw them which was the whole point. What do you want me to say?
You're moving the goalposts. First you said you proudly never saw a hair metal band until anthrax, and now you're saying that theyre the closest thing to a hair metal band you've seen. That's 2 different things
They sounded like a hair metal band when I saw them which was the whole point. What do you want me to say?
I feel like you're giving hair metal bands too much credit
Post by garageland on Jul 26, 2022 17:08:26 GMT -5
Anthrax was a trash band. Hair metal refers to Motley Crüe, Ratt, Poison and W.A.S.P. and what not. It was literally the antithesis of what hair metal was.
Anthrax was a trash band. Hair metal refers to Motley Crüe, Ratt, Poison and W.A.S.P. and what not. It was literally the antithesis of what hair metal was.
Overlooking the slip of calling them a trash band, I think that's exactly what's making me so upset about this conversation lol
They sounded like a hair metal band when I saw them which was the whole point. What do you want me to say?
I feel like you're giving hair metal bands too much credit
Of course not. I don’t like hair metal. I never liked it. I can’t stand it. Didn’t like it when it was up and coming and that’s from someone who listened to metal before hair bands were a thing. I do like Anthrax, paid to see them a couple years ago and bought a T-shirt that I sometimes wear. Whatever Anthrax might have been as a touring band in the 1980’s when all that shit was underground, it’s not what they were in 2018 when I saw them. Maybe the context of what I was saying didn’t come across right? So I’ll leave it with this: they were hard, loud and fast. I head banged and put up horns. But they still sounded hair metal during that show which is the closest I have gotten to a hair act thus far. However, I like them
I feel like you're giving hair metal bands too much credit
Of course not. I don’t like hair metal. I never liked it. I can’t stand it. Didn’t like it when it was up and coming and that’s from someone who listened to metal before hair bands were a thing. I do like Anthrax, paid to see them a couple years ago and bought a T-shirt that I sometimes wear. Whatever Anthrax might have been as a touring band in the 1980’s when all that shit was underground, it’s not what they were in 2018 when I saw them. Maybe the context of what I was saying didn’t come across right? So I’ll leave it with this: they were hard, loud and fast. I head banged and put up horns. But they still sounded hair metal during that show which is the closest I have gotten to a hair act thus far.
Let's concentrate on our mutual hate of hair metal
Alright. So poseurs like Tesla tried to play themselves off as the last bluejeans rock and roll band. They sucked anyway. Warrant. White Lion. Whitesnake. Ratt. Twisted Sister. Poison. Britny Fox. Stryper. Great White. I hate them all.
Alright. So poseurs like Tesla tried to play themselves off as the last bluejeans rock and roll band. They sucked anyway. Warrant. White Lion. Whitesnake. Ratt. Twisted Sister. Poison. Britny Fox. Stryper. Great White. I hate them all.
That will just about cover it, but dee Snyder will always have a little place in my heart
Post by jorgeandthekraken on Jul 26, 2022 17:32:00 GMT -5
My favorite hair metal oddity: Stryper, the Christian hair metal band that briefly had a moment of mainstream semi-success with the ballad “Honestly”….
…but who I will always remember for their ridiculous anthem “To Hell With the Devil.”
My favorite hair metal oddity: Stryper, the Christian hair metal band that briefly had a moment of mainstream semi-success with the ballad “Honestly”….
…but who I will always remember for their ridiculous anthem “To Hell With the Devil.”
Stryper is the band that your mom would buy you the shirt of not understanding the ass kicking you'd get if you wore it out of the house
WRITING 👏 SOMETHING 👏 THIS 👏 WAY 👏 DOESN'T👏 MAKE 👏 IT👏 TRUE👏
a. everyone knows clapping like that more better gets the point across
b. butt rock is pretty much defined by mainstream alt rock radio and PJ is all over that shit. quickly glancing my local station played PJ at 1 today between 3 doors down and finger eleven, they're firmly at home in butt rock
I don’t think local radio playlists have a role in determining anything here. The local “alternative” radio station down here is likely to play Nirvana, Billie Eilish, Tai Verdes, and Tones and I in succession. What do any of those things have to do with each other?
I went on a rant recently because they were playing Shallow by Gaga and said out loud, “What is this alternative to?” My poor SO had to listen to me talk about this for 3 minutes straight.
