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I didn't think Alessio or whatever his name is was a real guy at first, figured it was a scam. I've lost sight of that and sort of bought into it as he's appeared in-person, but yeah at first I thought it was a con because I didn't think they had a pimp and we hadn't seen him. It makes sense they don't have a pimp because Mia is so green and if she doesn't hook it doesn't seem to have any consequence.
Indeed thought "oh she's coming around to being nice and liking a real guy while her friend goes down the opposite path" but then all the talk of like "oh ...no don't worry. It's just if ..I don't pay him....he will threaten me". And all this after she was telling the friend how he is nice but also has a lot of money. So my bet was she hired someone to act as a pimp or something. Feel like if they had access to imperiolis hotel funds like they did the pimp would be involved there. Same thing for her trying to collect money from Cameron. Why wouldn't he be pressing that guy, too? She's the one going after him.
Post by piggy pablo on Dec 10, 2022 2:14:30 GMT -5
Could also see Alfie killing Alessio and it all being a ruse, thus that being the irony of the ending. Been getting a feeling it would be Alfie on Alessio.
Separately, maybe Cameron and Ethan are just horny for each other.
In the early episodes when they started getting into their backstory I thought there would be something like they had an experience with each other in college or maybe a threesome that they liked more than they revealed. But again, I feel like I was filling in so many possibly theories like it was fucking Westworld.
Do we have any details on Imperioli's backstory? When his dad was like "whatever you did can't be as bad as Hades raping Persephone" I was like "aw fuck he must've done incest or something". But then they kinda dropped it so maybe it wasn't the foreshadowing that I thought.
I assumed that it was an underage gal or at least a young employee who is now reporting sexual harassment. That comment, his dad saying he shares his love of young women and Harper being a lawyer for employees suing their employer. I thought it was all going to come together but it is getting pretty late in the game here.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Right? I think she realized Albie is naive and she can milk him for more.
I have been worried he would be involved in the ending. Possibly the one killed and that it would have someone to do with Portia pushing him to be more aggressive earlier. Like he would become overly aggressive and get himself into trouble.
He is sweet and is my new TV crush, so I assume he is about to die.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
i kind of just assumed that one of the deaths would be bert after all the talk of him falling, the head injury, "no more homecomings."
my original thought back in the tv thread was also grandpa. i kind of thought maybe it would be albie and the dad but damn that just seems too depressing for the mom back home and i don't know if mike white vibes like that.
i do think the theme seems to be that the rich people never pay for their mistakes, which lends it more towards it being lucia/mia, the nephew or portia.
I think that Jack is going to be involved in the killing and that Portia might be the one that ends up dead? Maybe? Like he is obviously keeping her from Tanya and Portia started getting weird and noticing shit in the last episode.
But also we know that Daphne finds the body, so maybe it's Harper that ends up dead?
IDK but I am about to rewatch to get ready for the finale.
I’m starting to feel the show is suffering from the Westworld complex where there’s too many outlandish theories that people are latching their ships too. Where they will end up disappointed when they don’t come true. Besides the Greg theory, there’s:
Albie is being scammed by Lucia/Alessio
Alessio isn’t a pimp, Lucia doing the scam herself
Harper tricking Ethan
Cam is actually broke, trying to get money from Ethan
Daphene kid has a different dad
Valentina is the killer
That’s just a few. Maybe that’s why I enjoyed season 1 more because it was less about the mystery and more about the characters and their development. Tanya dealing with grief, Armond relapsing, Rachel’s identity crisis, Paula questioning her own politics, Quinn looking for friendship. I’m just a sucker for good writing that doesn’t involve a mystery I guess.
I’m starting to feel the show is suffering from the Westworld complex where there’s too many outlandish theories that people are latching their ships too. Where they will end up disappointed when they don’t come true. Besides the Greg theory, there’s:
Albie is being scammed by Lucia/Alessio
Alessio isn’t a pimp, Lucia doing the scam herself
Harper tricking Ethan
Cam is actually broke, trying to get money from Ethan
Daphene kid has a different dad
Valentina is the killer
That’s just a few. Maybe that’s why I enjoyed season 1 more because it was less about the mystery and more about the characters and their development. Tanya dealing with grief, Armond relapsing, Rachel’s identity crisis, Paula questioning her own politics, Quinn looking for friendship. I’m just a sucker for good writing that doesn’t involve a mystery I guess.
Daphne's kid is definitely from the trainer. That whole scene underlines that Harper and Ethan are "trying" to have a kid. I didn't think of the Cam is broke scenario but I could see that as well. I enjoyed both seasons, but I do love the intrigue from knowing someone is getting murdered.
I’m starting to feel the show is suffering from the Westworld complex where there’s too many outlandish theories that people are latching their ships too. Where they will end up disappointed when they don’t come true. Besides the Greg theory, there’s:
Albie is being scammed by Lucia/Alessio
Alessio isn’t a pimp, Lucia doing the scam herself
Harper tricking Ethan
Cam is actually broke, trying to get money from Ethan
Daphene kid has a different dad
Valentina is the killer
That’s just a few. Maybe that’s why I enjoyed season 1 more because it was less about the mystery and more about the characters and their development. Tanya dealing with grief, Armond relapsing, Rachel’s identity crisis, Paula questioning her own politics, Quinn looking for friendship. I’m just a sucker for good writing that doesn’t involve a mystery I guess.
this whole season just makes me never want to get married lol
Post by piggy pablo on Dec 10, 2022 15:33:34 GMT -5
I rewatched the first episode last night and I think I saw the rich Brit on the beach with the police so I don't think he's dead but I think it's related to his party, yeah. He was just walking with them, not cuffed or anything.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Dec 12, 2022 1:48:38 GMT -5
Surprised to see how that turned out. minute to minute I started to convince myself that Tanya's husband was going to surprise her in the small boat for their final night and the "italian gays" really were just trying to wow her to get a donation for their buildings. Of course, all the stuff with Jack made that seem less likely.
Definitely felt like Lucia was playing Albie. Feel bad for him (and it seems he follows in his father and grandfather's footsteps) but was happy that he and Portia exchanged numbers.
Kind of upset at the Ethan/Harper storyline. What do you guys think? Did Harper and Cam actually have sex and then Daphne made it "even" with Ethan at that little hidden island? Definitely did seem like Harper wasn't telling the whole truth but now I don't know what to think. My biggest problem with this story is that throughout I mostly sided with Ethan throughout so if he then went and banged Daphne only to then go back to Harper and "everything is hunky dory" felt a bit off. But IDK.
Tanya getting through the tough part and then going out like that felt very much like a Mike White comedy bit. I was yelling at the screen for her to go down the steps. It felt so dumb she would try to hop down but she also wasn't the smartest character.
