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Yeah, way more people than when I went 2 years ago. Although everyone cleared out of there after Phoenix. Shuttle was a breeze getting out of there at least because of the early exodus. Except Rhonda got slammed and it had a line at one point. I wonder how many walk ups they had cause it was such a good day weather wise and despite there being lines for things it wasnt ridiculous. Except one Churo/Prezetl stand was 20 people deep all the time.
Post by thepiratepenguin on May 19, 2024 11:41:47 GMT -5
So I don't usually go with big groups to festivals, but I did to this, and it meant a lot more schedule compromises than I'm used to. Planned on seeing BSS, Metric, and TWOD, but missed all of them, and the one time we split ended up being a disaster finding each other again. (I get a shot of redemption with BSS tonight despite being very sleep deprived from several consecutive late nights.) I still had a lot of fun.
The biggest appeal for me here was Gossip, who I didn't properly get into until after they'd called their hiatus. I would pay to hear Beth to an hour of standup honestly. A criminally short set, but I hope it signals a proper NA tour soon. Set of the day for me was Phoenix, despite it being basically the same goddamn set they've been doing for 11 years. Here's to 11 more of it.
I saw the TPS/DCFC show last year, and it was lovely, but I'm not sure the Transatlanticism set in particular is best suited to a festival environment. You just can't replicate the dead silence during "Passenger Seat" in this setting. Even the Postal Service felt like a comedown after Phoenix's set, and the crowd seemed thinner too. I'd still call both sets solid, but I'm glad I caught one of the standalone shows already.
Alvvays and The Go! Team were very fun - I was repping my "Pomeranian Spinster" shirt in case you saw me around. Sleigh Bells were never really my thing musically, but the crowd seemed so happy to see them perform again after a long while. Tegan and Sara were...fine. They're a nostalgic band for me, so I appreciated the old and surprisingly deep cuts, but they've just never fully delivered live.
Very smooth logistics this year. Generally good vibes from the crowd. This festival has plenty left in the tank.
Post by summersnow on May 19, 2024 14:20:34 GMT -5
Would echo that it felt way more packed than prior editions (RIP San Pedro) - impacted meet-ups for sure and cell service after 5pm was hot garbage. They need to figure out wi-fi. Lines/waits for food + craft beer were moderate to bad - 15-20 mins for each felt tough on such a packed day. The Rose Bowl remains undefeated at shitty parking lighting / guiding on the golf course (GA) side, I did Preferred 2 years ago and will be going back to that (would have saved me 40 mins).
Highlights were...everything basically? Sets were very on time / often ended before time, and Miike Snow, Passion Pit, and Sleigh Bells largely sounded like they never left. Has Miike Snow always dressed like 80's M&A bankers or is that new? Agree w/above, didn't prioritize DCFC or Postal Service b/c setting at Hollywood Bowl was the right one vs. festival. Props to Metric for playing the 8-minute opener to one of their latest albums (Doomscroller) which, when I realized they were going into it, I got a kick out of - why not play your longest song during a super short set? TDCC was professionally awesome / solid crowd, Passion Pit is still a serotonin bomb, Phantogram was the one sacrifice but what I caught sounded great.
A couple thoughts on what was a pretty good day overall:
-Thankful for the parking employee who just said "you're cool, no worries" when I explained that my wife had a back injury a couple weeks ago and even though we had general parking we wanted to upgrade to preferred parking. A buddy tipped me on that general parking was a 30ish minute walk and that would have been brutal on her. Was happy to pay, but for all the ticket upgrade offers, there was no parking upgrade offers
-Vendor situation was a hot mess. Couldn't believe how poorly it was managed. Burger She Wrote ran out of fries (or their fryer broke) while we were 2-3 people away from a +20 minute wait for burgers and fries, the burrito place ran out of everything but chicken at 6 pm, jerk chicken place was down to just a vegetable plate by 6 pm, the bar by the club tent was out of hard liquor when we went for a drink at 8:30, list goes on and on. Did attendance shock people with a lot of walk-ups? Poor planning? Older crowds just eat / drink more?
-Layout was also the worst of any of the Rose Bowl events I've been to. Club tent just didn't work well at this fest IMO and overwhelmed the sound if you were hanging way back of the main stage. Could barely hear Death Cab, just club jams from that tent. Bathrooms were scarce and distant. VIP area by the second stage was way too big and boxed out GA. Similarly, my phone was a brick with no service after about 4 PM - couldn't meet up with friends. Scattered sets also meant you don't really miss anyone; but there was just massive herds back and forth between stages starting with Death Cab and it was actually pretty hard to get a good spot at either stage unless you waited 30 minutes in between sets (or sit in the back but then you listen to the club noise...)
-Crowds were great. People were very nice and respectful. A lot of families and wide variety of ages. People into the music while not being overly aggressive. One of the better festival crowd days I can remember
-...And to the music then! Passion Pit should be the JLH house band, great for the second time. DC/PS were fine but not a great festival vibe IMO - thankful PS played the record front to back so we could leave five songs in. BSS were great. Miike Snow surprisingly good live show. War on Drugs just incredible musicians and brought it again. Phoenix seems like they've become a little looser in their live show recently - bringing out Ezra for a couple songs was cool. Overall good day of music and excited for next year
One thing I noticed, which was much different than say the debut Just Like Heaven of 5 years ago - there were TONS of children, spanning the gamut from newborns to preteens. It makes sense with the average attendee age that many people have young children. But bringing a toddler to a music festival is absolutely unforgivable in my opinion. They should have Child Protective Services at the front to take these kids away from their malignant parents. During Tegan and Sara, I was sitting on the grass off to the side, and the woman in front of me was breastfeeding her infant (I don't have anything against breastfeeding in public just to be clear). And the infant was not wearing earplugs/earmuffs. Absolutely shameful - I had to stop myself from saying something. Bringing a kid younger than ~5 to a large scale music festival is wrong.
I did see the cutest thing during Phoenix. Three middle aged dads in front of me all had their ~8 year old daughters on their shoulders, and the daughters were holding hands and dancing along to the music.
Did VIP this year after GA last year and it was totally worth it. Always had space and never felt crowded. Bar lines were short throughout. Weirdly enough, the one place I was able to get perfect service was at the Stardust stage, and the Stardust stage only.
I do agree the Burger wait was ridiculous. Took a friend 15-20 minutes to get his burger, but that was *after* he ordered it.
Phoenix, Miike Snow, and Passion Pit were awesome, though we had to leave PP early so my wife could catch Metric, which was okay because I’m sure we only missed Little Secrets and Sleepyhead. Two songs I love but have heard live a lot.
A few acts ended about 4-5 mins early which was disappointing considering the already-condensed set time length. Phantogram and TDCC to name a couple.
Did VIP this year after GA last year and it was totally worth it. Always had space and never felt crowded. Bar lines were short throughout. Weirdly enough, the one place I was able to get perfect service was at the Stardust stage, and the Stardust stage only.
I do agree the Burger wait was ridiculous. Took a friend 15-20 minutes to get his burger, but that was *after* he ordered it.
Phoenix, Miike Snow, and Passion Pit were awesome, though we had to leave PP early so my wife could catch Metric, which was okay because I’m sure we only missed Little Secrets and Sleepyhead. Two songs I love but have heard live a lot.
A few acts ended about 4-5 mins early which was disappointing considering the already-condensed set time length. Phantogram and TDCC to name a couple.
I don't enjoy being a sardine as much as I used to...I think VIP or Clubhouse is in the cards for me next year.
One thing I noticed, which was much different than say the debut Just Like Heaven of 5 years ago - there were TONS of children, spanning the gamut from newborns to preteens. It makes sense with the average attendee age that many people have young children. But bringing a toddler to a music festival is absolutely unforgivable in my opinion. They should have Child Protective Services at the front to take these kids away from their malignant parents. During Tegan and Sara, I was sitting on the grass off to the side, and the woman in front of me was breastfeeding her infant (I don't have anything against breastfeeding in public just to be clear). And the infant was not wearing earplugs/earmuffs. Absolutely shameful - I had to stop myself from saying something. Bringing a kid younger than ~5 to a large scale music festival is wrong.
I did see the cutest thing during Phoenix. Three middle aged dads in front of me all had their ~8 year old daughters on their shoulders, and the daughters were holding hands and dancing along to the music.
Child Protective Services? Dude, relax.
They have a whole Cosmic Kids Land and encourage parents to bring their 5 and under kids on their website.
We brought our then 3 year old last year for half the day. She wore her earmuffs and loved Fever Ray.
Post by thepiratepenguin on May 19, 2024 21:07:18 GMT -5
There was someone’s kid near us playing Smash Bros. on his Nintendo Switch during Tegan and Sara. I’m surprised they were able to take the Switch into the festival, but it felt like one of those instances where the parents only dragged the kid along cause they wanted them to get into the same music they’re into, which is often a mistake. (Or they couldn’t get a babysitter)
Conversely, there was a family whose kids were all having a ball at the Go Team, all of them jumping along the whole time. Those are the kids you should bring - the ones who want to be there with you!
I realize I’m saying all of this as someone who will ideally never have children, oops.
One thing I noticed, which was much different than say the debut Just Like Heaven of 5 years ago - there were TONS of children, spanning the gamut from newborns to preteens. It makes sense with the average attendee age that many people have young children. But bringing a toddler to a music festival is absolutely unforgivable in my opinion. They should have Child Protective Services at the front to take these kids away from their malignant parents. During Tegan and Sara, I was sitting on the grass off to the side, and the woman in front of me was breastfeeding her infant (I don't have anything against breastfeeding in public just to be clear). And the infant was not wearing earplugs/earmuffs. Absolutely shameful - I had to stop myself from saying something. Bringing a kid younger than ~5 to a large scale music festival is wrong.
I did see the cutest thing during Phoenix. Three middle aged dads in front of me all had their ~8 year old daughters on their shoulders, and the daughters were holding hands and dancing along to the music.
Child Protective Services? Dude, relax.
They have a whole Cosmic Kids Land and encourage parents to bring their 5 and under kids on their website.
We brought our then 3 year old last year for half the day. She wore her earmuffs and loved Fever Ray.
And they put sandbox toys in the sand traps. The kids I saw in there were having fun. I mean they had envisioned Arroyo Seco to be this family friendly event and JLH took its place. More viable to have 2000's acts that are fun than trying to have Mumford and Sons at the golf course. Ending at 11 and/or putting on the one act most people wanna see at 8:30pm helped a lot.
Anyway, I dont know why people were so tied to having to be with their group. Go see the bands you wanna see, its not a giant fest. Plan a default meet up place especially for the end of the night or for one specific act lots of people wanna see. Actually had a designated spot for all the people that I knew were gonna be there and it worked out nicely if I wanted to hang out with anyone in between shooting which was brutal. Did more steps yeaterday than any single day at Kilby last weekend.
Rhonda was in the same spot as Club Doom was last week so that couldnt really change it. I only had an issue once which was after Phoenix and wanted to see how it was in there at night so there was a line. They could probably make it a little larger but Im sure they dont want to make it even bigger than it needs to be.
One thing I noticed, which was much different than say the debut Just Like Heaven of 5 years ago - there were TONS of children, spanning the gamut from newborns to preteens. It makes sense with the average attendee age that many people have young children. But bringing a toddler to a music festival is absolutely unforgivable in my opinion. They should have Child Protective Services at the front to take these kids away from their malignant parents. During Tegan and Sara, I was sitting on the grass off to the side, and the woman in front of me was breastfeeding her infant (I don't have anything against breastfeeding in public just to be clear). And the infant was not wearing earplugs/earmuffs. Absolutely shameful - I had to stop myself from saying something. Bringing a kid younger than ~5 to a large scale music festival is wrong.
I did see the cutest thing during Phoenix. Three middle aged dads in front of me all had their ~8 year old daughters on their shoulders, and the daughters were holding hands and dancing along to the music.
Child Protective Services? Dude, relax.
They have a whole Cosmic Kids Land and encourage parents to bring their 5 and under kids on their website.
We brought our then 3 year old last year for half the day. She wore her earmuffs and loved Fever Ray.
You brought a 3 year old who wore earmuffs. I probably wouldn’t bring my 3 year old, but that’s an entirely different scenario than bringing an infant <1 years old who is not wearing earmuffs. Yes, I think a parent who brings an infant without ear protection to a music festival should lose their right to be a parent.
They have a whole Cosmic Kids Land and encourage parents to bring their 5 and under kids on their website.
We brought our then 3 year old last year for half the day. She wore her earmuffs and loved Fever Ray.
You brought a 3 year old who wore earmuffs. I probably wouldn’t bring my 3 year old, but that’s an entirely different scenario than bringing an infant <1 years old who is not wearing earmuffs. Yes, I think a parent who brings an infant without ear protection to a music festival should lose their right to be a parent.
I'm sure that lady has every right to be a parent. That kid will be fucking fine.
You also said this: "But bringing a toddler to a music festival is absolutely unforgivable in my opinion. They should have Child Protective Services at the front to take these kids away from their malignant parents. Bringing a kid younger than ~5 to a large scale music festival is wrong."
Post by scenicworld on May 20, 2024 8:59:59 GMT -5
I had a great time this weekend. I missed out on the DCFC/TPS shows at the bowl last year, so it was good to finally check them off my list. I enojoyed The Postal Service a lot more than I expected and Death Cab for Cutie was good, even if they were a little bit on the boring side. Passion Pit was a surprise for me since I saw them at ACL in 2014 and it was kind of terrible, but maybe that was just an off night or maybe it was just a bad experience from where I was in the crowd but I don't remember the vocals sounding good at all when I saw them previously. maybe they have just gotten better in the last 10 years or the nostalgia was at the right levels. Phoenix was Phoenix and they are always great even if you've seen them so many times. Ezra coming out fo rthe end was fun though.
Two Door Cinema Club and Phantogram were probably my favorites of the day with CSS and Broken Social Scene close behind. Every Time I see TDCC it's almost like a new singer is up there. that guy has gone through so many looks as he's aged into his skin suit. they are always such a fun act though. the sound issues during CSS were a bummer, but it didn't change anything about how fun their set was. Stuck around for Gossip before heading over to stardust to see BSS who were fantastic. Seeing Emily come out was kind of expected, but also a nice treat.
up until this point in the day I expected JLH to be rather empty and feel undersold but as I headed back to Orion to get a good spot in ADA, I noticed that it was really starting to fill up. I guess people just waited until after 4 to show up even though it was great weather all day. Tegan and Sara -> TDCC -> Phantogram was just a great t-2-3 for me. I wanted to skip Passiot Pit because of the aformentioned experiences at ACL, but decided not to give up my place in ADA since the playform was mostly full. really wish I got to see Metric, but at least Passion Pit turned into a nice surprise for me.
I definitely saw more kida than usual, but I'm sure the Cosmic Kids thing brought more than usual. it was probably evenly split between kids that were dragged there and would rather be anywhere else and kida that were super into it.
getting in and out wasn't as organized as Cruel World the week before. in fact, they still had the parking sign for GA to go straight ahead at the intersection of Linda Vista and Seco st. but if you kept going straight you would never be able to turn right since all thoes streets were closed. we kept driving looking for aisngage that we never saw and ended up turning around to go towards preferred which ended up being GA parking too. getting out of the parking lots was still super easy at least, but having all the traffic go in the same direction didn't work as well as having different routes at Cruel World. maybe they expected a lot less people and cut back only to then have a bunch of passes sold the day of the event?
So fun. Two Door, Phoenix, Passion Pit, TPS were my favorites.
Death Cab is one of my favorite bands, and Transatlanticism is my favorite DCFC album, but I agree that it doesn't make any sense for them to play the album through at a festival. I think the Postal Service's music just translates better to a festival environment too.
They have a whole Cosmic Kids Land and encourage parents to bring their 5 and under kids on their website.
We brought our then 3 year old last year for half the day. She wore her earmuffs and loved Fever Ray.
You brought a 3 year old who wore earmuffs. I probably wouldn’t bring my 3 year old, but that’s an entirely different scenario than bringing an infant <1 years old who is not wearing earmuffs. Yes, I think a parent who brings an infant without ear protection to a music festival should lose their right to be a parent.
Tell us what you think of the Taylor Swift pit baby.
You guys aren’t thinking big picture enough. You all could’ve been committing gross elder abuse by forcing your horribly uninterested grandparents to see Two Door Cinema Club with you just so you could use their handicap parking placards.
Yeah I get the Taylor Swift pit stuff or bringing a kid to like a 3 day Excision rave, but I don't see any issue with a parent bringing a toddler to a 1-day outside yuppie rock fest that is clearly targeting parents.
I'm late, but speaking of the kid's area...who thought adding a sign that said "KID ROW" was a good pun?! Tacky IMO.
I had a great day at Just Like Heaven! I've been to 3 out of 4 and this was my favorite one yet, music-wise. Supre is right that designated spots worked well; our group had a dedicated spot at the main stage that was pretty simple to get to, close, near bathrooms, etc. and everyone was easily able to navigate there as we separated and reunited throughout the day.
Cell service was complete ass. My friend came at 3pm and said his phone didn't work at all; luckily since the fest is small he was able to finally connect with someone who could tell him where the meetup spot was.
Best sets for me were Broken Social Scene, Two Door Cinema Club, and Phoenix. It was awesome to see Death Cab at sunset again, it's been probably since Coachella '08 that I've seen them play a sunset set, and Transatlanticism sounded great. I don't agree that it's not a good festival set because people were rapt at Kilby; it's just LA crowds IMO or the fact that they just played here last fall.
