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I'll go hang out at Infobury. The festival may be cancelled, but I'd rather be over there than on a board full of flamers and holier-than-thou douchebags.
We do not all fall into this category. I have been on Infobury when it started. It has it's occasional troll as well. Just a smaller board so less of them.
Right now, before the line up comes out, all hell breaks loose on this board. Those of us that have been on it awhile and are so all year, know that most of the time it is a quiet community of like minded individuals that just enjoy music of all kinds.
I am so sorry at the loss of Rothbury. I can not imagine the pain of loosing a festival you love. And in today's crazy economic uncertainty, one does not know if they have a job the next day, much less if the festival will be back next year.
Please do not feel a few flamers speak for us all.
To be honest, most of us didn't and don't care who goes to Bonnaroo and who goes to Rothbury and who goes to Wakarusa and who goes to Langerado. What got old was when threads were started promoting Rothbury and trashing Bonnaroo lineups for two summers straight.
The funny thing is that the exact same thing sort of happened the summer before Rothbury started when some of the better known board members decided Langerado was the way to go instead of Bonnaroo. But there was ZERO animosity because they didn't troll the Troo Music Lounge bitching loudly about the presence of acts that weren't their taste.
There was also a definite feel that AEG was actively trolling the boards and feeding info for people to promote through the boards. It was just a different more obnoxious situation. And let's face it, most of the people here posting are doing so because we're excited about Bonnaroo.
This.
You don't like Bonnaroo? Fine, don't come on this board. You don't like Inforoo? Don't come on this board. You don't like the trolls? Don't.come.on.this.board.
Sorry for the bit of an overreaction there. Rothbury was my first (and so far only) festival. I went on a whim for DMB in 08 and was blown away. I had an even better time in 09. I've wanted to do Roo for a while (since before I ever went to Roth), and, if the lineup and other things work out, this is likely the year. I just want to have the same type of experience at Roo that I've gotten used to at Roth, which includes meeting a lot of cool new people. Anyways, I know that a few dumbasses don't represent the entire board, but I just hope that, if I do end up going the Roo route that I won't have to deal with a whole bunch of people badmouthing Roth and talking bad about the people at Infobury, since I'm one of those people and I have a lot of friends from that site.
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To be honest, most of us didn't and don't care who goes to Bonnaroo and who goes to Rothbury and who goes to Wakarusa and who goes to Langerado. What got old was when threads were started promoting Rothbury and trashing Bonnaroo lineups for two summers straight.
The funny thing is that the exact same thing sort of happened the summer before Rothbury started when some of the better known board members decided Langerado was the way to go instead of Bonnaroo. But there was ZERO animosity because they didn't troll the Troo Music Lounge bitching loudly about the presence of acts that weren't their taste.
There was also a definite feel that AEG was actively trolling the boards and feeding info for people to promote through the boards. It was just a different more obnoxious situation. And let's face it, most of the people here posting are doing so because we're excited about Bonnaroo.
This.
You don't like Bonnaroo? Fine, don't come on this board. You don't like Inforoo? Don't come on this board.
It's pretty simple.
this. the reason people are on your ass now is you made it a point to come over here constantly talking about how much better rothbury was, how much bonnaroo sucks. i know personally, it made me want to take the side against you because i love bonnaroo. actually i would have considered going to rothbury, even though i thought it was just a version of what bonnaroo use to be 5 years ago. but the constant rothbury is better talk made me take the other side. so i pretty much celebrated at the news yesterday. if your festival was so good it would still be around. bonnaroo is still the best. if you don't like it, go somewhere else.
I'm trying to figure out when this board became so filled with noobs and babies that going to festivals became a competition or something to trash each other over. I've been a member of this board for five years now and it is silly how much this board has changed for the worse. The proliferation of inforoo has brought in a bunch of people who are missing out on the community aspect of the event and this board. The last two pages of this thread is a good example of what I'm talking about.
Rothbury got cancelled and it is a sad day for the infobury peeps, many of whom are derivatives of this board. Hell, the board, itself, is a spinoff of this one. There is no reason for anyone to get on a high horse, trash others, or personally call people out. It's just lame and not what this board was about 5 years ago, Is about now, or should be about in the future.
We are a collection of people united in our love for music. There is no competitive aspect in that sense of unity, and if you don't get that, you don't understand Rothbury, and you sure as hell don't understand Bonnaroo.
I gotta say that I was hoping to come on this board and find people like Gouge, dreamingtree (great screen name btw) and druid. I hope there are more people like you at Roo than some of the others.
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Post by itrainmonkeys on Jan 23, 2010 12:49:38 GMT -5
To be honest.....I thought the Roth .vs. Roo debate would end when Roth was cancelled. I'm not saying that Roo is better......just that there would be less back-and-forth between people who preferred one or the other.
I'm upset Roth is cancelled (hopefully just postponed) because I wanted to do it one year. This year wouldn't work for me anyway but hopefully next year.
Both are festivals where one can see tons of great music and have a lot of unique experiences. I see no real difference between the two besides musical preference each year. Some would prefer Roth. Some would prefer Roo. No big deal.
There really shouldn't be any competition between the two. Bot have positives and both have negatives. We're all here for the music anyway. Don't let the typical human nature of choosing sides enter into the discussion
I gotta say that I was hoping to come on this board and find people like Gouge, dreamingtree (great screen name btw) and druid. I hope there are more people like you at Roo than some of the others.
Look man like others have said, there has been some bad blood between the Rothbury/Bonnaroo crowd on these boards for two years now. If you see some gloating at the cancellation, well we saw plenty after the Kanye Bonnaroo 08 issue. I can not count the number of times people from infobury have started crap about lineup comparisons or vibe comparisons.
Not to mention while I do not post much on infobury I do have an account, and from what I have seen the all time Bonnaroo bashing still went over there so don't get all high and mighty and act like you guys are a lot better than us. Also it is helpful to know the background to a situation when you join a new board before you start lecturing people. Clarity and bburton have been sniping at each other for just about two years now, and it comes from both sides. Anyway welcome to the board, but maybe take a look around before you start telling us how to do things,and letting us know exactly what you think all our faults are.
I don't get why there is festival competition. I am going to Roo, Coachella and I would be going to 10KLF if it weren't cancelled so I might try something new this year. I can see defending your fav festival but why go at another festival in the first place. I love drama (between others) but I think this is stupid. I feel bad for the true Roth lovers but if the trolls start coming out of the wood works I will change my mind and point and laugh and rub it in everyone's faces.
Post by questionablesanity on Jan 23, 2010 13:42:01 GMT -5
Well, I saw this news last night and Iw as pretty depressed. I had already asked off for that week. I was really looking forward to meeting some of the great peeps that I've met on Infobury. I was also looking forward to attending one of the best up and coming festivals that was relatively close to my house.
My guess is that it was a combination of the locals trying to put limits on the festival and Roth maybe not being able to get good acts. I can't imagine all of the hardships that come with booking a festival of this size.
My guess is they couldn't get Neil or Phish along with smaller acts. There's so many fests now. Even with the many that we've lost in the last year.
I hope they come back next year even bigger and better. Now I've got to find another fest to go to in addition to Roo.
AS for the trolls, get a freaking life. Why argue?
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My guess is they couldn't get Neil or Phish along with smaller acts. There's so many fests now. Even with the many that we've lost in the last year.
For some reason, Phish at Rothbury 2010 was a foregone conclusion in the minds of many people I know (IDK why they would just ASSUME that, but....) Perhaps this, in some small way, contributed to the postponement.
Post by ☮ superbek ☮ on Jan 23, 2010 14:45:24 GMT -5
I have never been to Roth but that's not to say that I haven't wanted to. I have been to roo for six years but I am not going to a fest this year because I am going on a three week cross country excursion. I really hate that roth is gone because I know many friends who loved the fest and I am sad that don't have that place to turn to anymore...
I think that instead of boasting how much better roo is, we could learn from this... this just proves that ROO WON'T BE HERE FOREVER regardless of who owns the land and how much money they make. All good things must come to an end and I hate to say it but the real bonnaroo died a looooong time ago.
I feel especially bad for the folks at infobury... what happens know? Will their forum just dispel? If there is no event, people will stop logging in.... eventually.
ROO WON'T BE HERE FOREVER regardless of who owns the land and how much money they make. All good things must come to an end and I hate to say it but the real bonnaroo died a looooong time ago.
What will happen to us?
Glastonbury (40 years!) and a bunch of other European festivals have been going on for decades. Who is to say Bonnaroo won't turn out that way? The festival market is over-saturated right now, some new mid level festivals were eventually going to fail (Langerado, Rothbury.) In the end I think Bonnaroo has been established long enough to not have to worry about this.
And if one more person says the real Bonnaroo was gone a long time ago I'm going to go nuts. As far as I'm concerned, the great music festival I attended last year was not a figment of my imagination.
Post by ☮ superbek ☮ on Jan 23, 2010 15:14:04 GMT -5
yeah, you're right lot of other festivals have gone on forever in Europe but this is AMERICA... remember when you could carry a book of matches on a plane? or your pocket knife? or your cell phone? I guarantee roo won't be here forever.
and you might have attended a great fetival last year but you did not attend the SUPREME festival six, seven, or eight years ago. Bottom line is roo has changed over the years in ways that you can't even imagine because you weren't there and no one can explain it for you... so go ahead, go nuts because you're going to hear it time and time again... for a reason.
**and the fact that "someone" smited me only further proves my point. the festival isn't the only thing that has changed...
I can't comment on any Roth/Roo debate, since I haven't done Roo yet. I get people having conversations like "I like Roth better than Roo because..." and vice versa. I can't stand the people that say "Roo sucks because of Kanye" or "Roth sucks because they couldn't get Phish" or any of that bashing. And that's on both sides of the debate. There were a few trolls over at Infobury, but there honestly wasn't much Roo bashing. Too many people from the site started out by going to Roo, and, while some weren't happy with the direction the festival took, most people still understood that Roo set the standard for Rothbury and so many other festivals.
Anyways, depending on the lineup, I'm likely going to be doing Roo for the first time this year. I might do Summercamp or All Good, but Roo is likely to have the diversity that I want and that SC and AG will likely be lacking. I'm just really bummed that a great festival like Rothbury (and, even if you like Roo more you have to admit that Roth was a good time) couldn't figure out how to keep going.
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Post by nitetimeritetime on Jan 23, 2010 16:20:58 GMT -5
I don't know about Roth, but Langerado's death wasn't inevitable, at least not that soon. It was really self inflicted. The last Langerado was the best one, and the fest was getting better every year. The first had 3,500 people, and attendance grew by about 50% every year, until they had 25,000 in 08. They had gradually been moving toward a more camping-friendly festival over the years, and the move to Big Cypress in its last year solidified it as a camping fest.
Then they tried to move it to downtown Miami, where camping was impossible, making the festival way too expensive for many of the people who had just started to fall in love with the fest. To top it off, they changed their lineup dramatically, presumably to attract a new crowd to the festival. Obviously, that was a bad idea. Hopefully other festivals learned a lesson from Langerado's failure.
yeah, you're right lot of other festivals have gone on forever in Europe but this is AMERICA... remember when you could carry a book of matches on a plane? or your pocket knife? or your cell phone? I guarantee roo won't be here forever.
and you might have attended a great fetival last year but you did not attend the SUPREME festival six, seven, or eight years ago. Bottom line is roo has changed over the years in ways that you can't even imagine because you weren't there and no one can explain it for you... so go ahead, go nuts because you're going to hear it time and time again... for a reason.
**and the fact that "someone" smited me only further proves my point. the festival isn't the only thing that has changed...
Yeah cause a festival where in the last 4 years I have seen two nights of Phish, Radiohead, Oysterhead, Dr John, SCI, Gov't Mule, Flips, NIN, Keller Williams, etc.... is just the suck lol. All these people who still talk about the death of the scene at Bonnaroo crack me up. I have been going to festivals in the US since the early 90's, and Bonnaroo is pretty much the premiere American event.
yeah, you're right lot of other festivals have gone on forever in Europe but this is AMERICA... remember when you could carry a book of matches on a plane? or your pocket knife? or your cell phone? I guarantee roo won't be here forever.
and you might have attended a great fetival last year but you did not attend the SUPREME festival six, seven, or eight years ago. Bottom line is roo has changed over the years in ways that you can't even imagine because you weren't there and no one can explain it for you... so go ahead, go nuts because you're going to hear it time and time again... for a reason.
**and the fact that "someone" smited me only further proves my point. the festival isn't the only thing that has changed...
Yeah cause a festival where in the last 4 years I have seen two nights of Phish, Radiohead, Oysterhead, Dr John, SCI, Gov't Mule, Flips, NIN, Keller Williams, etc.... is just the suck lol. All these people who still talk about the death of the scene at Bonnaroo crack me up. I have been going to festivals in the US since the early 90's, and Bonnaroo is pretty much the premiere American event.
I never said roo sucked as a matter of fact I said I have been six times. However the lineup has seen changes and that has made a difference in the group attending. When things get out of control, the government somehow finds a way to put an end to them and I wouldn't put it past them with these types of festivals.
I am just asking that people accept that things change and offer support to our friends at infobury instead of acting like a bunch of little b!tches to each other... obviously this is a growing trend just think about what it would mean for yourselves and us as a a community here at inforoo if this happened to Bonnaroo? Who knows, it may be sooner than you think!
I don't know about Roth, but Langerado's death wasn't inevitable, at least not that soon. It was really self inflicted. The last Langerado was the best one, and the fest was getting better every year. The first had 3,500 people, and attendance grew by about 50% every year, until they had 25,000 in 08. They had gradually been moving toward a more camping-friendly festival over the years, and the move to Big Cypress in its last year solidified it as a camping fest.
Then they tried to move it to downtown Miami, where camping was impossible, making the festival way too expensive for many of the people who had just started to fall in love with the fest. To top it off, they changed their lineup dramatically, presumably to attract a new crowd to the festival. Obviously, that was a bad idea. Hopefully other festivals learned a lesson from Langerado's failure.
Got to agree with you here. Lost of festivals have died due to mismanagement. I think on this board we can agree that AC know how to run a festival. Let's all be thankful for what we have...
and you might have attended a great fetival last year but you did not attend the SUPREME festival six, seven, or eight years ago.
Good thing you were lucky enough to catch that last great one, all downhill from there.
Bottom line is roo has changed over the years in ways that you can't even imagine because you weren't there and no one can explain it for you...
This is so elitist. How do you know it was "supreme" 7-8 years ago if YOU weren't there? I mean since it can't possibly be explained. I'll bet there is someone out there who went the first two years who thinks you are the ignorant one for having fun and believing that the doomed third year was anywhere near as good as the first two.
Bottom line is, these are all your opinions and regardles of what you believe, it is patronizing to state them to others as if they are the word of God or something.
I've been the last 4 years, and no I don't know exactly what it was like before that. I do know that the moment the festival is over each year, I am already looking forward to the next one. And that's all I need to know.
I hate to say it but the real bonnaroo died a looooong time ago.
By this logic you should be happy that Rothbury got cancelled. It went out on top. No loooooong painful death. Nothing ever improves, it all just turns to crap. Poor suckers having fun that don't know any better.
I will pour my beer on the ground for Rothbury at Bonnaroo this year. I haven't been able to make it up to the Ranch yet, and now I may never get to. It is a sad loss for the festival world indeed
I am just asking that people accept that things change and offer support to our friends at infobury instead of acting like a bunch of little b!tches to each other... obviously this is a growing trend just think about what it would mean for yourselves and us as a a community here at inforoo if this happened to Bonnaroo? Who knows, it may be sooner than you think!
yeah, you're right lot of other festivals have gone on forever in Europe but this is AMERICA... remember when you could carry a book of matches on a plane? or your pocket knife? or your cell phone? I guarantee roo won't be here forever.
and you might have attended a great fetival last year but you did not attend the SUPREME festival six, seven, or eight years ago. Bottom line is roo has changed over the years in ways that you can't even imagine because you weren't there and no one can explain it for you... so go ahead, go nuts because you're going to hear it time and time again... for a reason.
**and the fact that "someone" smited me only further proves my point. the festival isn't the only thing that has changed...
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I never said roo sucked as a matter of fact I said I have been six times. However the lineup has seen changes and that has made a difference in the group attending. When things get out of control, the government somehow finds a way to put an end to them and I wouldn't put it past them with these types of festivals.
I am just asking that people accept that things change and offer support to our friends at infobury instead of acting like a bunch of little b!tches to each other... obviously this is a growing trend just think about what it would mean for yourselves and us as a a community here at inforoo if this happened to Bonnaroo? Who knows, it may be sooner than you think!
First off the Gov't is not going to find a way to shut down Bonnaroo, that is almost as good as MTV buying it. Secondly Bonnaroo is a lot less likely to get shut down than most festivals because they a: own the land and b: they make money. Rothbury has not managed to do either of those things, which I am sure contributed to AEG's decision.
However the lineup has seen changes and that has made a difference in the group attending. When things get out of control, the government somehow finds a way to put an end to them and I wouldn't put it past them with these types of festivals.
I am just asking that people accept that things change and offer support to our friends at infobury instead of acting like a bunch of little b!tches to each other... obviously this is a growing trend just think about what it would mean for yourselves and us as a a community here at inforoo if this happened to Bonnaroo? Who knows, it may be sooner than you think!
What the hell are you talking about? Now the government is going to shut Roo down? Not just Roo, but all the current successful festivals in the country?
Honestly no one is acting like "little b.itches to each other," it's just aimed at certain former active board members who constantly felt the need to say Rothbury was better. Last year we had a similar argument and hippie would back her self into a corner and then try and push her way out with copious amounts of caps lock, never seeing the other side of an argument. So when she feels the need again to say she won't be going to Bonnaroo, as if to make some grand point about the festivals state of affairs, it gets annoying.
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