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Post by bansheebeat on Sept 6, 2014 0:23:25 GMT -5
Just finished my Season 3 rewatch. Really enjoyed it (more so this time around I think) but I feel like the ending (final two episodes) was the weakest one yet.
Post by Roo'adelphia on Sept 7, 2014 1:47:36 GMT -5
I really like how season 1 ended. The series could of wrapped there and I think I would be satisfied. Season 2 im going through alot quicker, but the whole waterfront thing just loses me sometimes. But the twist and turns of the show is fantastic. You really root for the good guys and sympathize with the bad. And for a cop drama, the comedic parts crack me up.
Post by bansheebeat on Sept 7, 2014 23:08:38 GMT -5
You guys misunderstood me: 3.11 is amazing yes, but what I'm talking about it the show doesn't wrap up in a satisfying way. I know the whole thing with the end of The Wire is how everything always keeps on going as normal (with new people filling the roles of those fallen), but I found the end of season 3 to just be "meh" - and that's coming from a huge fan of the Marlo arc.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Sept 7, 2014 23:12:24 GMT -5
Just watched that episode today on the re-watch. Some awesome stuff with Stringer being cornered after finding out the two guys were after him. Amazing scene on the rooftop with Stringer/Avon that really felt like it was two friends reminiscing and not two different actors from different walks of life. Totally sold me when Stringer and Avon were talking about the old days.
Just watched that episode today on the re-watch. Some awesome stuff with Stringer being cornered after finding out the two guys were after him. Amazing scene on the rooftop with Stringer/Avon that really felt like it was two friends reminiscing and not two different actors from different walks of life. Totally sold me when Stringer and Avon were talking about the old days.
That scene was awesome. So much is going on under the surface. Just brilliant writing.
I've been planing on doing a re-watch. Maybe I can catch up to some of you guys. Or I'll just keep watching the Walking Dead and see how many more The Wire actors they can cast. Zombie Bubbles would be interesting.
Just watched that episode today on the re-watch. Some awesome stuff with Stringer being cornered after finding out the two guys were after him. Amazing scene on the rooftop with Stringer/Avon that really felt like it was two friends reminiscing and not two different actors from different walks of life. Totally sold me when Stringer and Avon were talking about the old days.
That scene was awesome. So much is going on under the surface. Just brilliant writing.
I've been planing on doing a re-watch. Maybe I can catch up to some of you guys. Or I'll just keep watching the Walking Dead and see how many more The Wire actors they can cast. Zombie Bubbles would be interesting.
Carver is going to be on Walking Dead next season as a priest/preacher role. He can reunite with Cutty!
That scene was awesome. So much is going on under the surface. Just brilliant writing.
I've been planing on doing a re-watch. Maybe I can catch up to some of you guys. Or I'll just keep watching the Walking Dead and see how many more The Wire actors they can cast. Zombie Bubbles would be interesting.
Carver is going to be on Walking Dead next season as a priest/preacher role. He can reunite with Cutty!
Haha! I saw that! This is three seasons in a row now. My guess was that Father Gabriel would end up having Beth but It seems I was very wrong.
That helps even things out now that Chris Bauer is done with True Blood. I miss good old Frank but Andy was awesome.
I would be there opening night, and I never see a movie opening night.
Inevitably, The Wire came up. West spoke fondly of the “astonishing afterlife” of what many consider the greatest television series of all time and said he is still taken aback by the absurdity of strangers confronting him on the street and saying, quite apologetically, “I haven’t yet watched The Wire…I’m so sorry! But I mean to.” Asked whether the cast and crew were ever planning on making a feature-length film of the show, West offered an interesting response:
“Constantly,” he said. “There was constant talk of The Wire movie in the bar for five years, but nothing seemed to come about. I was talking to Wendell Pierce about it more recently because he was the driving force behind the movie idea, and we wanted David Simon to write it, obviously. But David Simon said, ‘It can’t be a sequel, it has to be a prequel. And that’s going to be all right for the black actors, but for the white ones, they don’t look younger than they did 10 years ago.’” West laughed, before adding in jest, “Whitey doesn’t look so good.”
I'd see it but it'd have to be done right. The way Simon and Burns would want. Not some cash grab because of it's cult status.
I agree 100%. Unless Simon & Burns do it, the way they want to do it, I don't want to see it ever done. I'll always have my dvd set, to watch whenever I choose.
Post by 3post1jack1 on Sept 16, 2014 14:00:31 GMT -5
I don't even want a movie. I think I understand back in the day (80s/90s), if a TV show made a jump from TV to a full feature length film, it was a big deal. But these days, television, as a visual medium to tell a story, is so superior to movies. DVRs and on demand viewing via streaming services have made it possible to tell a story lasting 50+ hours, where you can really get to know your characters and really connect with the setting. Doesn't a movie seem like a serious downgrade after an experience as rich as five seasons of The Wire?
Going from a story telling medium as massive and flexible as TV is today to a movie is like George R.R. Martin completing "A Song of Ice and Fire" and then releasing a short story set in Westeros. Sure you might be happy to read it, but its impossible for it to have anywhere near the impact on the audience that the novels did.
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy movies. But I really do look at them as short stories, in light of the breadth of story telling we see in television series today.
Nothing really got resolved at the end of season 4, and given that Marlo and Omar are my two favorite characters, I was hoping that season 5 would show some pretty awesome conflict in season 5. I was watching some TV show a while ago that spoiled the fact that some shit gets done to Omar so I know that shit goes down, but seeing these rankings almost makes me wish I wasn't going to be watching it. I really really didn't care for season 2 though so I'll hope against hope that season 5 can best it.
Without going into detail, Season 5 has a major plotline that's really ridiculous and takes up way to much time. You'll see soon enough. Overall, it has some strong material that redeems it and keeps it from being a total train wreck of a finally season. I don't know were it went wrong, it had a potentially interesting concept that could have tied in with the themes of the other seasons. They just made some bad storytelling decisions somewhere along the development stages.
We are in the middle of Season 5 right now. I had totally forgotten this whole storyline. It's just not even a little bit believable. It could have been, I think, but the way they did it was not.
I don't even want a movie. I think I understand back in the day (80s/90s), if a TV show made a jump from TV to a full feature length film, it was a big deal. But these days, television, as a visual medium to tell a story, is so superior to movies. DVRs and on demand viewing via streaming services have made it possible to tell a story lasting 50+ hours, where you can really get to know your characters and really connect with the setting. Doesn't a movie seem like a serious downgrade after an experience as rich as five seasons of The Wire?
Going from a story telling medium as massive and flexible as TV is today to a movie is like George R.R. Martin completing "A Song of Ice and Fire" and then releasing a short story set in Westeros. Sure you might be happy to read it, but its impossible for it to have anywhere near the impact on the audience that the novels did.
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy movies. But I really do look at them as short stories, in light of the breadth of story telling we see in television series today.
Make it a 4 hour HBO movie. Two nights with 2 hours each.
It does feel like a step down/back and I'm not sure it'd be worth it for a prequel. I'd honestly probably prefer Simon/Burns make a new version of the Wire (not called The Wire) tackling the topic of institutions and such in another area. I know we had Treme and I love it but something about the police work/gangster/politics mix really interested me.
Now....if we could get that Deadwood movie/final episodes that we were promised I'd be super happy. Also, I want Carnivale to finish it's story in graphic novel form (since a show is never going to happen).
I'd honestly probably prefer Simon/Burns make a new version of the Wire (not called The Wire) tackling the topic of institutions and such in another area. I know we had Treme and I love it but something about the police work/gangster/politics mix really interested me.
Now....if we could get that Deadwood movie/final episodes that we were promised I'd be super happy. Also, I want Carnivale to finish it's story in graphic novel form (since a show is never going to happen).
I read that David Simon wrote a pilot for a show called The Hall that would have followed Carcetti's political career, but HBO passed on it.
And I'm not big on graphic novels, but I would totally read a Carnivale one.
I don't even want a movie. I think I understand back in the day (80s/90s), if a TV show made a jump from TV to a full feature length film, it was a big deal. But these days, television, as a visual medium to tell a story, is so superior to movies. DVRs and on demand viewing via streaming services have made it possible to tell a story lasting 50+ hours, where you can really get to know your characters and really connect with the setting. Doesn't a movie seem like a serious downgrade after an experience as rich as five seasons of The Wire?
Going from a story telling medium as massive and flexible as TV is today to a movie is like George R.R. Martin completing "A Song of Ice and Fire" and then releasing a short story set in Westeros. Sure you might be happy to read it, but its impossible for it to have anywhere near the impact on the audience that the novels did.
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy movies. But I really do look at them as short stories, in light of the breadth of story telling we see in television series today.
I was just thinking about this while watching Guardians of the Galaxy a few weeks ago. It was the first movie I've seen since I finished watching The Wire for the first time. I really enjoyed the movie, but I found myself thinking at times, "this is over in less than two hours. Movies just can't tell the same story as a tv show can." One season of a tv show (one hour program) still offers more depth than most movie trilogies.
I learned yesterday that, although it never actually said so on the show, Cheese was Randy's dad.
Yea, I think that was confirmed by one of the creators but at the time the show aired there was confusion because of the last names. Cheese's last name in season 2 is listed as Flagstaff and Randy's last name was Wagstaff....but I think that was the idea...they altered it a bit and Randy was the illegitimate child of Cheese.
The funniest thing about McNulty being British in real life is that they have him do a crappy British accent on the show when trying to pick up the hookers in Season 2. It's great. Also...just in case nobody knew Carcetti is Irish in real life. His GoT accent is a bit closer to his actual voice.
I learned yesterday that, although it never actually said so on the show, Cheese was Randy's dad.
Yea, I think that was confirmed by one of the creators but at the time the show aired there was confusion because of the last names. Cheese's last name in season 2 is listed as Flagstaff and Randy's last name was Wagstaff....but I think that was the idea...they altered it a bit and Randy was the illegitimate child of Cheese.
The funniest thing about McNulty being British in real life is that they have him do a crappy British accent on the show when trying to pick up the hookers in Season 2. It's great. Also...just in case nobody knew Carcetti is Irish in real life. His GoT accent is a bit closer to his actual voice.
I'm assuming we're talking about McNulty creating a serial killer? It seemed unbelievable at first, but the when Freamon was on board it was just like "yea....bullshit".
Is this when he drives into the pole under the bridge, then backs up and does it a again, to "recreate" the crime scene? First one of my favorite scenes in the series. Second this was apparently based on a true story, whoever the guy is that McNulty was based on did this exact thing when he was a cop.
