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Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
I love how we already have four pages for Moog and there isn't even any base for the thread (no lineup, rumors, etc). We might beat last year’s numbers of the never ending thread! (68+11= 79 pages-o-Moog)
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
I love how we already have four pages for Moog and there isn't even any base for the thread (no lineup, rumors, etc). We might beat last year’s numbers of the never ending thread! (68+11= 79 pages-o-Moog)
I'm sure we can break last year's record, especially if GL maintains his '11 posting pace. ;-)
It depends if you go with the American or British rule. Americans would say "The Shins suck" because the band is singular. The British typically consider a band to be plural (i.e., "Coldplay are touring") despite its illogical sounding craziness.
Post by A$AP Rosko on Feb 23, 2012 11:47:28 GMT -5
There's actually debate amongst music journalists about that, maynard. I know because I interned under one for a while and dabbled in it myself. Some argue that the band should be seen as one singular unit at all times because it emphasizes the unity of the band (for ex: The Shins rules). Some argue that it should be seen as a plural group of people since most bands are, in fact, multiple groups of people (for ex: LCD Soundsystem rule).
Some, myself included, believe that singularity or plurality should be case-specific when referring to bands/musicians/artists since sentences like the examples mentioned above, "The Shins rules" and "LCD Soundsystem rule," sound a tad awkward but both are technically correct under the side of the argument people fall in. If you think it should be case-specific, the first sentence would be "The Shins rule" and the second would be "LCD Soundsystem rules" since the proper noun "The Shins" implies plurality and the proper noun "LCD Soundsystem" implies singularity. For every band name/artist name that implies singularity, you'd treat the noun as a singular noun; for every band name/artist name that implies plurality, you'd treat the noun as a plural noun.
EDIT: ^I did not know that it was a British vs. American thing, I'd never heard that. The guy I worked under was American but he pronounced the group as one singular unit, but told me other music journalists (presumably in the States) disagreed with him on that point.
There's actually debate amongst music journalists about that, maynard. I know because I interned under one for a while and dabbled in it myself. Some argue that the band should be seen as one singular unit at all times because it emphasizes the unity of the band (for ex: The Shins rules). Some argue that it should be seen as a plural group of people since most bands are, in fact, multiple groups of people (for ex: LCD Soundsystem rule).
Some, myself included, believe that singularity or plurality should be case-specific when referring to bands/musicians/artists since sentences like the examples mentioned above, "The Shins rules" and "LCD Soundsystem rule," sound a tad awkward but both are technically correct under the side of the argument peope fall in. If you think it should be case-specific, the first sentence would be "The Shins rule" and the second would be "LCD Soundsystem rules" since the proper noun "The Shins" implies plurality and the proper noun "LCD Soundsystem" implies singularity. For every band name/artist name that implies singularity, you'd treat the noun as a singular noun; for every band name/artist name that implies plurality, you'd treat the noun as a plural noun.
EDIT: ^I did not know that it was a British vs. American thing, I'd never heard that. The guy I worked under was American but he pronounced the group as one singular unit, but told me other music journalists (presumably in the States) disagreed with him on that point.
I do case-specific for the same reason. I would rather be technically incorrect than awkward.
There's actually debate amongst music journalists about that, maynard. I know because I interned under one for a while and dabbled in it myself. Some argue that the band should be seen as one singular unit at all times because it emphasizes the unity of the band (for ex: The Shins rules). Some argue that it should be seen as a plural group of people since most bands are, in fact, multiple groups of people (for ex: LCD Soundsystem rule).
Some, myself included, believe that singularity or plurality should be case-specific when referring to bands/musicians/artists since sentences like the examples mentioned above, "The Shins rules" and "LCD Soundsystem rule," sound a tad awkward but both are technically correct under the side of the argument peope fall in. If you think it should be case-specific, the first sentence would be "The Shins rule" and the second would be "LCD Soundsystem rules" since the proper noun "The Shins" implies plurality and the proper noun "LCD Soundsystem" implies singularity. For every band name/artist name that implies singularity, you'd treat the noun as a singular noun; for every band name/artist name that implies plurality, you'd treat the noun as a plural noun.
EDIT: ^I did not know that it was a British vs. American thing, I'd never heard that. The guy I worked under was American but he pronounced the group as one singular unit, but told me other music journalists (presumably in the States) disagreed with him on that point.
I do case-specific for the same reason. I would rather be technically incorrect than awkward.
You're not technically incorrect. Just early to the correct way of things
It depends if you go with the American or British rule. Americans would say "The Shins suck" because the band is singular. The British typically consider a band to be plural (i.e., "Coldplay are touring") despite its illogical sounding craziness.
But FTR: The Shins most certainly DO NOT suck.
It came up in the State Your Opinions As Facts thread. I would have asked there, but I didn't know if you would read it.
^I did not know that it was a British vs. American thing, I'd never heard that. The guy I worked under was American but he pronounced the group as one singular unit, but told me other music journalists (presumably in the States) disagreed with him on that point.
This site backs me up - but more importantly, it proves that either way is acceptable! (Yay for hair-splitting!) ;D
Yeah, the British usage of plurals drives me bonkers sometimes. I prefer most of their grammar rules & spelling ("the colour grey") but "Sport" is typically singular even when it refers to multiple types of athletics. What rubbish!
OK, we now return to our regularly scheduled Moog-specific programming, already in progress. Class dismissed.
Haha! When I first saw Garageland's post, I got wicked confused. "Wait... were you guys fooling me all weekend?!?" It didn't occur to me that it could be a typo!
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal. 
