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Duke has been replaced by Charlie Sexton who was in the band before Duke and before that in the early 2000s. Sounds like Duke left because of personality differences with Dylan. Charlie is an amazing guitarist and the only musician I've seen play with Dylan who will edge him on and mess with him. You get the impression that they are actually friends and that Dylan respects Charlie a lot.
For me Charlie being back in the band is major plus points
Duke has been replaced by Charlie Sexton who was in the band before Duke and before that in the early 2000s. Sounds like Duke left because of personality differences with Dylan. Charlie is an amazing guitarist and the only musician I've seen play with Dylan who will edge him on and mess with him. You get the impression that they are actually friends and that Dylan respects Charlie a lot.
For me Charlie being back in the band is major plus points
I would have been more sad if we stayed. why would you want to have that as your memory of him? it's awful.
It got better as the set progressed and it's not how you have to remember him. It's about appreciation for what he's given us and paying the respect for it. It's well-addressed that this is what it would be like and he does the best he can to still provide a good show for the fans, by rearranging his songs in ways that suit the voice he has been left with. If anything it made me appreciate his body of work even more.
Having said that, my favorite parts of the day definitely were I Know You Rider and Dark Star. Beautiful renditions for sure. I wish we had gotten there to see Weir do When I Paint My Masterpiece.
Everybody hating on Dylan is high and needs to turn in their rock n roll card.
Dudes, no, you're missing the point. His voice is pretty raw and pretty much reduced to a growl, but that's not why his show is sad (it was in my opinion). Both times I saw him last year he slightly came off as a weenie, it felt like he was insulting his audience by not even trying to put on a good show. He just felt very detached from his music and crowd. Those might have been some bad shows, but I've heard tons of people say the same thing. I'm still a huge fan, I just wouldn't pay lots of money to see him again.
That said, I would never leave one of his shows. I don't think I would ever do that to any artist, unless it was at a festival like the Roo.
It got better as the set progressed and it's not how you have to remember him. It's about appreciation for what he's given us and paying the respect for it. It's well-addressed that this is what it would be like and he does the best he can to still provide a good show for the fans, by rearranging his songs in ways that suit the voice he has been left with. If anything it made me appreciate his body of work even more.
Having said that, my favorite parts of the day definitely were I Know You Rider and Dark Star. Beautiful renditions for sure. I wish we had gotten there to see Weir do When I Paint My Masterpiece.
Everybody hating on Dylan is high and needs to turn in their rock n roll card.
Dudes, no, you're missing the point. His voice is pretty raw and pretty much reduced to a growl, but that's not why his show is sad (it was in my opinion). Both times I saw him last year he slightly came off as a weenie, it felt like he was insulting his audience by not even trying to put on a good show. He just felt very detached from his music and crowd. Those might have been some bad shows, but I've heard tons of people say the same thing. I'm still a huge fan, I just wouldn't pay lots of money to see him again.
That said, I would never leave one of his shows. I don't think I would ever do that to any artist, unless it was at a festival like the Roo.
this I don't get. if you're not enjoying it, why not leave?
Dudes, no, you're missing the point. His voice is pretty raw and pretty much reduced to a growl, but that's not why his show is sad (it was in my opinion). Both times I saw him last year he slightly came off as a weenie, it felt like he was insulting his audience by not even trying to put on a good show. He just felt very detached from his music and crowd. Those might have been some bad shows, but I've heard tons of people say the same thing. I'm still a huge fan, I just wouldn't pay lots of money to see him again.
That said, I would never leave one of his shows. I don't think I would ever do that to any artist, unless it was at a festival like the Roo.
this I don't get. if you're not enjoying it, why not leave?
Out of respect, I guess. I mean, it could never be that bad that I have to leave before my ears start to bleed.
Post by SilentEyedStorm on Jul 6, 2013 17:06:05 GMT -5
The stop in Peoria, IL on Thurs has had a venue change. It was moved from our sweet AAA ballpark to the Civic Center arena. I was on the fence, but this was the decision maker for me. This show begs for an outdoor venue....
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It's rained solidly for a week straight here, with the same forecast for the next week. It stopped for exactly four hours around this show so I twisted a friends arm to the point of breaking and shoved him in the car before he could change his lazy mind. Picked up an $80 pavilion seat for 30 bucks in the lot and a $20 lawn job. Needless to say, we had an amazing night with the stacked card of faves. The crowd was equally divided and pretty lackluster given the stadium seating. Security were nazis about cameras, threatening to take mine 6 or 8 times cause Dylan is god. Still, my buddy was blown away and thanked me profusely for dragging his ass off the couch. Gotta be the best opening acts ever assembled. My Wilco Jacket doing G Harrison was a sight to behold. Steam Engine, Master Plan and Wilco's version of the old standard, When the Roses Bloom Again, were all gorgeous highlights. Everyone actually stuck around thru Dylan, who sounded really loose despite the occasional Kermit the Frog/Pete Brady cracks and croaks.
MY MORNING JACKET:
Circuital It Beats 4 U X-Mas Curtain Master Plan Wonderful (The Way I Feel) Steam Engine Isn't It a Pity (George Harrison cover) (with Wilco) Wordless Chorus Victory Dance Gideon
WILCO:
Either Way When the Roses Bloom Again Forget the Flowers How to Fight Loneliness Poor Places Art of Almost War on War Sloth (Fairport Convention cover) (with Richard Thompson) California Stars (with Richard Thompson) Hummingbird Impossible Germany I Got You (At the End of the Century) Dawned on Me
I was there as well Whoreshack. Great show by all 3 acts, I thought. Dylan was much better than I had anticipated and as others have said his band was very good. and then Wilco just fantastic.
I also was at the Cincy stop, and I have to concur with a lot of what's been written on here: I thought MMJ and Wilco tore it up. And to be honest, I turned to my wife at one point and said I felt sorry for Dyan, who had to follow two in their prime and at the top of their game live acts. Boy, did he quickly make that a non issue. My wife and I danced on the lawn nearly non stop for his entire show. It was upbeat, and his backing band was top notch. Also, his voice wasn't a distraction to me at all. It sounded similar to what it's sounded like on his recent albums. I wish I could have went to more of the stops. This was a heck of a mini touring fest.
I'll bet anything you change yr mind after seeing them in the pit.
^^^^THIS. I thought they were just okay until I saw them up close for the first time at NFF last year. Being that close to Jim's flowing locks getting tossed around by the stormy air... I fell in love with MMJ. EASILY a top 3 magical musical moment for me and made me a major fan. No going back now!
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
Man this St. Paul show from last night seems like it might have been the best one yet. Wilco and MMJ doing Cinnamon Girl again, MMJ bringing out MN boys Trampled By Turtles for songs by both bands as well as an old Buddy Miller cover, and of course MN boy, Dylan. From The Current:
Dylan was in a particularly nostalgic mood on Wednesday evening, perhaps with the experience of playing his birthplace of Duluth still lingering in his mind from the night before. After dancing through a set that included many staples from recent stops on his Never Ending and AmericanaramA tours, the 72-year-old Dylan paused in a rare moment of reflection to offer a sweet tribute to an early musical role model.
“I used to live here, and then I left,” Dylan began, causing die-hard fans to stand up straight and take notice (he usually only offers up a simple “Thank you, friends!” at shows). “I’ve played with everybody from Mick Jagger to Madonna, but the most beautiful person I’ve ever been on stage with is Bobby Vee. He used to sing a song called ‘Suzie Baby.’”
He continued by telling the crowd that Vee was in attendance that night and that he wanted to dedicate a cover of “Suzie Baby” to the Fargo-born star, who was one of the first musicians to ever hire Dylan to perform while he was still living in Hibbing. In a twist of fate, Vee actually hired Dylan to play piano in his band back when Dylan was using the stage name Elston Gunn, so it was quite fitting that he chose to cover the song in an era of his career that has found him returning to the piano instead of playing the guitar.
Vee retired from performing just last year after revealing to his fans that he has Alzheimer’s disease, making the tender moment from the typically stoic Dylan all the more bittersweet. Dylan and his band’s jaunty cover of the 1959 ballad was a highlight of the set, and one of the only moments they deviated from the cabaret shuffle that defined the majority of their performance.
Other highlights of Dylan’s set included the devious “Lovesick,” which featured a wailing harmonica solo from the sprightly singer, a boogieing “Beyond Here Lies Nothin’,” and a reimagined version of “A Hard Rain’s A-Gonna Fall” that included one of his more imaginative piano solos. As with many shows he’s played in town in recent years, he seemed to save his best voice for the celebratory “Blowin’ in the Wind,” which served as his encore.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Jul 11, 2013 12:55:39 GMT -5
Really upset about missing this tour. I had a cynical idea when this was announced that it'd just be short set, short set, short set, done but these shows are extremely unique for all bands. Seeing the setlist is painful because each night is a "wow that would be awesome to see" and it's different all the time.
I was at the show in Peoria, IL on Thursday night and the lineup was Robert Thompson, MMJ, Wilco and Bob Dylan. I'm pretty sure it will remain in that order for the Pine Knob show but just replace Ryan B with Robert T. The show in Peoria started at 5:30 PM CT and ended at 11:30 PM. The show was indoors instead of in a ballpark (something about logistics) and I got a seat right next to the stage. Perfect view. All the bands were amazing. I wasn't familiar with Robert Thompson but he really rocked. Funny guy too! I'm not a huge MMJ fan but they blew me away. It was my 3rd time seeing Wilco and it seems like they get better every time I see them. Wow! It was my 8th Dylan show and this performance was one of my top 3. When I saw him in August, Charlie's guitar overpowered the band. It was out of tune and I could barely hear Bob. In Peoria, his guitar was perfectly in tune and it sounded great. Bob's voice was very clear. Bob and his band were really tight. Overall, Americanarama was a fun show. The bands seemed to be enjoying themselves on stage. I'm glad I decided to go to this and Old Crow/Avett Brothers at Red Rocks instead of spending all my money going to Bonnaroo.
Last Edit: Jul 13, 2013 21:52:33 GMT -5 by Ally - Back to Top
"Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo
So yesterday was a big day in the tour. First MMJ pulls out on of the better setlists of the tour, yet apparently the crowd contained a lot of people who were not digging. So much so that Jim said something along the lines of him not giving a fuck if people didn't like them and Patrick mentioned people in the crowd with scowls on twitter.
Then Wilco does a song with Feist and closes with Cinnamon Girl w/ MMJ.
Charlie Sexton was not with Dylan and was replaced by a Colin Linden. Some people think Charlie was helping Dylan out as he sought a permanent replacement while others think Charlie was unable to get the necessary work permits to play in Canada on such short notice.
But the biggest news of all Jim and Tweedy joined Dylan for two songs. Twelve Gates To The City and Blowin' In The Wind
Really upset about missing this tour. I had a cynical idea when this was announced that it'd just be short set, short set, short set, done but these shows are extremely unique for all bands. Seeing the setlist is painful because each night is a "wow that would be awesome to see" and it's different all the time.
Scrounge up a ticket for Bridgeport! Kev and I have a hotel and everything for maximum cuddle time.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
Really upset about missing this tour. I had a cynical idea when this was announced that it'd just be short set, short set, short set, done but these shows are extremely unique for all bands. Seeing the setlist is painful because each night is a "wow that would be awesome to see" and it's different all the time.
Scrounge up a ticket for Bridgeport! Kev and I have a hotel and everything for maximum cuddle time.
So yesterday was a big day in the tour. First MMJ pulls out on of the better setlists of the tour, yet apparently the crowd contained a lot of people who were not digging. So much so that Jim said something along the lines of him not giving a Quack if people didn't like them and Patrick mentioned people in the crowd with scowls on twitter.
Then Wilco does a song with Feist and closes with Cinnamon Girl w/ MMJ.
Charlie Sexton was not with Dylan and was replaced by a Colin Linden. Some people think Charlie was helping Dylan out as he sought a permanent replacement while others think Charlie was unable to get the necessary work permits to play in Canada on such short notice.
But the biggest news of all Jim and Tweedy joined Dylan for two songs. Twelve Gates To The City and Blowin' In The Wind
Yesterday's show in Toronto was fantastic. It was a beautiful day in the city and the place was full right from the beginning of MMJs set. The crowd was definitely into their set. Jim said the following "The great thing about a tour like this is you have 3 kinds of people. One group that really loves what youre doing, another group that is undecided and are like "ya, I kind of dig this" and then another group that doesnt like you at all, but who gives a f*ck because were going to play our songs anyway". Jim was very receptive to the large turnout for their early set. I do have to say that Wilco stole the show last night. Their set was incredible!! They brought Feist out for two songs and closed it up by bringing MMJ out for Cinnamon girl. I also loved the fact that they opened their set with Airline to Heaven. Dylan was......Dylan. His backing band is phenomenal, but Bob sounds terrible (which I expected going into the show). I thought it was still pretty special to see such a legendary musician even if it wasnt all that great.
Last night's show in Toronto was one of the best shows I've ever attended. Forgive my laziness, but here is a writeup I posted over on the MMJ boards.
I knew I was in for an awesome night when MMJ opened with "I Think I'm Going To Hell". They came out SWINGIN' and it got me MOVIN' -- which made for weird moments when I was rocking as hard as I've EVER rocked and nearly EVERYONE around me was sitting still as a stone. There were pockets of MMJ fans scattered throughout the floor -- easily spotted -- and I wanna say THANK YOU for giving MMJ the energy they needed to know they were appreciated! There were so few MMJ fans in the pit that I'm pretty sure each and every person who was rocking on that floor, Jim walked over to and personally gave a moment of acknowledgement. I know I got one, at least. And so did my girlfriend. We were fucking rocking.
In addition to the lame crowd around me, I also had to deal with pit security who continually told me to sit down throughout MMJ and Wilco. Any time they told me to sit down, I kindly replied "fuck that!" and I'd groove away from security, like some sort of freaky concert-going nomad, bustin' my moves wherever I could.
Jim had an awesome bit about the awkward crowd vibe that went something like this:
"Good morning everyone! Thanks for waking up and coming to see us. When you play an early gig like this, it's weird. You've got three types of people in the audience. The first type fucking LOVE everything you do and are on their feet going CRAZY the whole time. [Cue big cheers from me and the other dozen MMJ fans in the pit] The second type sit there stone-faced with their arms crossed, thinking 'Ehh, these guys are alllllriiiiight'. The third type are like 'NOOOO fuckin' way man, these guys fuckin' SUCK!' And to them I say, we're almost done anyway, so who fuckin' cares?!"
That banter alone won over some haters. God bless this band.
Wilco was fucking awesome. Brought out Feist for two songs, one being "Suzanne" by Leonard Cohen. "Sloth" absolutely killed, I'm thrilled I got to see it while Richard Thompson was still on the tour. They closed with "Cinnamon Girl" avec MMJ who looked like they were having a BALL -- Carl especially! Great backups and handclaps!
And then Dylan. What can you say? I went in with such low expectations that Dylan would have to literally be the WORST SHOW IN THE HISTORY OF LIVE MUSIC to let me down. Well not only did he not suck, he was fuckin' cookin' with gas! I feel like an idiot for not being more excited. His band is truly a treat to listen to. The bass grooves were something else. The sound, so fucking crisp. Bob was all smiles all night. I think he knew he fucking slayed.
Jim James and Jeff Tweedy sat in with Dylan on "12 Gates To The City", an old folk standard. It was fucking awesome. The whole crowd chanted "Oh What A Beautiful City!" in unison with Bob Dylan, Jim James and Jeff Tweedy, on the same stage for the first time ever. What a beautiful city indeed. And what a magical night.