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For tomorrow or now as a distraction from the slow ticking clock, start thinking about who would be your fantasy picks for the leads in season 2. Since the setting of Louisiana has been so important this season, you might want to think of an ideal setting as well.
I've been thinking about this for a while now. I'd like to see Joaquin Phoenix, Christian Bale, Jared Leto, Claire Danes, Mila Kunis, and Jennifer Connelly just to name a few.
I think most want Rust to survive including myself. If he dies a part of me will die with him and then I'll have to fill that void with a sixer of Lonestar or Old Milwaukee, nothin' snooty.
Ok, I can now say that was officially the best single season of any show I have ever seen. Others may disagree but I'm just speaking for myself. Also like Druid said, Matty Mac needs an emmy.
Post by wannaberoo'ing on Mar 9, 2014 21:40:20 GMT -5
I'm shocked by the "finale," in a good way. There is quite a bit left unsaid, many valid questions are still left unanswered, but I realize that truth is function. We are left to our own truths now, however they fill our needs we sought while watching Marty's and Rust's journey. There will never be a full and resolute conclusion, just as Rust said.
Expected more closure on Marty's daughter. I figured that the sexually-charged drawings, surrounding a naked Barbie with 5 soldier dolls, getting in cars with multiple boys, etc. was leading to some kind of "she was sexually abused" ending than a mere "these are plot devices to create tension between Marty/Maggie."
Long story short, I expected a twist about Audrey, but wasn't disappointed by the lack of one. Great season all around. Last scene especially was amazing.
Post by Vibes Chilled on Mar 9, 2014 22:48:09 GMT -5
I sat motionless in bed for about a good 10 minutes after the credits not really knowing what to think. Enjoyed the episode a good bit but I'm left just a tad bit disappointed. I feel like an asshole for feeling like this, but I dunno...it's just how I'm feeling.
Either way, this journey was fun as shit. Glad to have been part of it. Didn't think a TV show would have me on edge the way Breaking Bad had me ever again, but here I am feeling that edge a mere few months after the BB finale. Here Here.
You guys, this shit isn't about plot. It's about these two characters and their moral and spiritual journeys. If you're not utterly moved by Rust Cohle the nihilist's epiphany that "the light is winning," then there is no pleasing you. That finale couldn't have been any better IMO. 10/10
That ending was damn-near perfect. I am happy the ending isn't clean and tidy, because that's how life is and it would've cheapened the story that was built around characters and a realistic plot.
Post by Mista Don't Play on Mar 10, 2014 7:03:41 GMT -5
Yea the story was about Rust and Marty, the hunt for a psychotic serial killer was just the driving force behind the building of their relationship. The ending was beautiful. It would have cheapened things if they had opted for some big, b.s. twist in the last episode.
Yea the story was about Rust and Marty, the hunt for a psychotic serial killer was just the driving force behind the building of their relationship. The ending was beautiful. It would have cheapened things if they had opted for some big, b.s. twist in the last episode.
I agree. the whole theme, to me, is in the title of the show. Like rust said in the end, the only story is the oldest story, and that is light vs. dark. All cop shows (cop show being the greatest modern genre IMO) are basically about the same thing: good guys going after bad guys. Existentially a "true detective" will most likely be completely destroyed by this process. We see time and again in cop shows the "job", or the light vs. dark battle, destroys families, destroys health, destroys minds.
The dark isn't always the criminal, it can be the bureacracy or stat pushing (see The Wire), it can be the social realties or societal institutions (see The Wire).
A true detective does look into the void and feels helpless. Helpless against the money and power and institutions that can sometimes make the fight against the dark seem fruitless. I think what Rust realized at the end was his own smallness, expressed in the metaphor of looking at the stars and making stories out of them. Who hasn't looked up at the sky and realized our own insignificance? For the run of the series (meaning most of Rust's adult life) he was arrogant and utterly focused on himself and the inner workings of his mind. As much as we, the viewers, love Rust, he was very "me me me me me" focused. I think in the parking lot at the hospital he was accepting his smallness in things, but as devastating as that was, he was still OK with it. The light was still winning because of his actions, even as small as a star against the gigantic darkness of the night sky, but still winning.
As far as acting goes, the childlook look of joy on Woody's face when his family came to see him in the hospital, followed quickly by the tears when the magnitude of the life he'd lost with these people he loved came down on him, coupled with the absolute horrors he had witnessed... that just about destroyed me.
Post by wannaberoo'ing on Mar 10, 2014 8:33:18 GMT -5
I don't think anyone should feel shorted by the final episode. If you have reason to believe Audrey was involved, you're still right. If you think the Senator or the Governor or the Vietnamese roadside restaurant owner (not really) is The Yellow King, than you're also right. If you think Rust was truly getting sucked into Carcosa at the end or just having a poorly timed hallucination, both are justified.
That's why this story was the best thing ever. Such a loose structure for interpretation while being so tightly executed thematically, everyone involved with telling this story had to have been sharing the same brain, a personal collective consciousness.
I think this may be the only TV show that I'll re-watch from beginning to end, possibly many times.
As far as acting goes, the childlook look of joy on Woody's face when his family came to see him in the hospital, followed quickly by the tears when the magnitude of the life he'd lost with these people he loved came down on him, coupled with the absolute horrors he had witnessed... that just about destroyed me.
Woody's performance, especially these two last episodes, is just as stellar as Matt's has been. I think he's been overshadowed by Rust the character, as his character was more pedestrian but played perfectly.
Didn't I read somewhere that Matthew was originally offered the part of Marty? And he said no, I want Rust. I just don't think Woody could have pulled it off with such finesse.
I think the biggest surprise was the happy ending. A lot of people just don't know how to process that. They were so ready for one or both of them to die.
As far as acting goes, the childlook look of joy on Woody's face when his family came to see him in the hospital, followed quickly by the tears when the magnitude of the life he'd lost with these people he loved came down on him, coupled with the absolute horrors he had witnessed... that just about destroyed me.
Woody's performance, especially these two last episodes, is just as stellar as Matt's has been. I think he's been overshadowed by Rust the character, as his character was more pedestrian but played perfectly.
McConaughey's consistency in the show was very impressive, but Woody's acting in the final two episodes was just remarkable. I was talking about it with some friends, but the scene when his family comes in was one of the most emotional scenes for me as a viewer. He played that scene, and those two episodes, as perfectly as you could.
Trying to figure out where this ranks on my character-driven show list, and it's up there with The Wire, Breaking Bad and Mad Men. One of the best seasons of television I've ever watched.
