True Detective

not feeling it. Too much good stuff on these days, and too much old stuff to catch up on.

That opening monologue was rouuuugh. Vaughn has been all wrong for the character he is playing so far...but based on scenes later in episode 2 and previews from future episodes the character is going to evolve into something more up his alley.

Avoiding spoilers sounds like a good motivation for those people to stop browsing this forum in an unintelligent manner

90% of my browsing is done through the "Participated" button, because if a thread doesn't have my posts in it, it's probably worthless.

So much whispering, we had to rewind a good bit this week.

i didn't have any problem hearing the dialogue, but then again my power amp puts between 300-500 watts to each of my 75 pound tower speakers.

/flexes audio muscles

okay that was stupid, apologies. i do love my speakers though, and have been surprised at how those mumbly types of dialogue scenes haven't been a problem since I upgraded, especially since I ditched my center channel and went stereo.

Can y'all not just turn subtitles on?

i am actually addicted to watching tv with the subtitles on. i watch ALL my shows with it. for some reason i feel like my brain doesn't have to pay as much attention.

Same, even video games. I feel like it all started for me when I got all Monty Python's Flying Circus on DVD. Just couldn't understand some of the things they were saying. Now I do it for everything just easier not to miss things that way and if its a video game I am probably listening to music so tv is a low volume or muted.

Edit: someone who was glancing through on recent post. I have never seen this show.

Yea, the rat monologue didn't work for me but him being vaguely threatening and charming to that guy that those goons roughed up was perfect. The way he was smiling and then went to menacing worked for me.

This is where I'm at, as well.

I love Vaughn in the scenes when he's meeting with Farrell. That, his threatening the car accident guy scene, and the scene where he's doing detective work and searching for info on Caspere were all solid and I enjoyed them but everything else has been a little rough for him. The longer monologues haven't clicked when he's telling them. Not sure if the writing isn't as good as the Rust Cohle stuff or if the delivery is just that much worse. Leaning towards delivery.

But Farrell has been fun to watch even as he goes deeper and deeper into despair. McAdams was great this episode IMO after being kind of a non-entity in the first one. I really enjoyed the scenes with McAdams and Farrell working the case/driving together. That felt like season 1 stuff in a good way.

Kitsch just isn't working for me. Not sure if his acting is bad or if he's supposed to be this way (I don't have a lot of stuff of his to compare his performance to). It's clear that his character is a closeted/self-hating homosexual who is trying to repress it deep down but there were a few times when I was just looking at his face and I didn't see any emotion. Maybe that's the point? I don't know. I also was getting some incest-related vibes from his mom in that short scene. They laid that on pretty heavily with her saying not to call her "Ma" and how she was touching him/telling him how strong he was. Also the way she was snapping and barely containing the contempt she felt for whatever "woman" she thought he was thinking about/shacking up with. Thought that performance or writing of that scene could have used a bit more subtlety but whatever.


I'm liking it so far. I really enjoy the shorter seasons for things like this. If this was a 22-episode season I'd be checking out.

I refuse to allow you all to say mean things about Tim Riggins. He is doing the best he can. Both his parents are dicks and left and his brother Billy raised him, and Billy was trying to the best he could too, but he was all screwed up and drank too much. All Tim was ever really good at was football and now that its done he's trying to be a cop. He just wants to ride the bike. Y'all just need to let him ride the bike.

Texas Forever.

I figured out the fate of Ray Velcoro because of the preview for next week as well as some other promos/trailers for this season of True Detective that air before other shows on HBO. Don't watch the previews if you want hints (seriously....one line from it confirmed what I was thinking).




Nah.....he's a closeted/repressed gay dude. Although, I did sense some incest vibes from the mother. It's all in the dialogue though. She tells him not to call him "Ma" because of it being "too late to start that stuff now". Part of me thinks he found his real mom late in life (either after being left for adoption or just taken by social services) and that's part of the reason why she's so against being known as his mom but also so into touching/rubbing up on him. She also snapped when he'd mention being busy and she didn't hide the contempt for other women that her son may be seeing. She was definitely giving off a creepy feeling though.

But the reason I say he is a repressed gay guy is because of:
- the viagra to sleep with the girlfriend (originally thought this was PTSD or something but after episode 2 I think it's cuz he's trying hard not to be homosexual)
- the anecdote about some "fag" at the bank trying to hit on him felt like he was trying to hard (plus it was random) to make sure that other cop knew he wasn't into that stuff
- staring off the balcony and seeing the two happy/out gay guys holding hands and going to the costume party. I thought he was going to go out and beat those guys up but one review I read mentioned how he was envious of them so I think that makes more sense. He also had the part about seeing a dude get dropped off after likely performing some sexual act so I imagined we'd be seeing him in a future episode either picking up a guy or trying to be the one to get picked up. Definitely thought we'd see him pulling up in a car at that spot.

He's gay but he doesn't want to be/thinks it's wrong. Seems that way, anyway.

I definitely think that's his mother but that he didn't know her growing up. Maybe she did molest him as a kid but I really just figured that he looks a bit like his daddy did when she got pregnant and now that he's back in her life she's feeling less motherly and more drunk-old-whore-like. It could be that she messed him up as a kid but I feel like we wouldn't see him being so friendly to her.

I think she just wants to bang him and he's not into it/is oblivious. But I definitely think he's repressed gay. If he really hated sex I don't think he'd be getting with a girl and faking it. I think he's forcing himself to do what a "normal" guy would when he has no interest in the female sex. If he just hated sex I don't think they'd include his anecdote about the guy at the bank and wouldn't show him watching the gay couple/male prostitute at the end. There's definitely something going on with homosexuality and it's either that he's repressed or he just REALLY hates gay people.