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Friday - Radiohead vs. Kygo? Saturday - Mumford vs. LCD Soundsystem? Sunday - Kendrick vs. Major Lazer?
What the fuck is a kygo by the way, and why is it billed 6th, and ahead of the Redheaded Stranger?
EDIT: After watching a few of his 200million-viewed videos, they're catchy tunes, and a lot lighter than I thought they would be. Still confused why a 25 year old DJ is ranked 6th above Willie, other than his massive teen following, which I guess is all you really need.
Last Edit: May 5, 2016 11:24:47 GMT -5 by llz - Back to Top
Fest booking has more to do with tour routing than anything else. I don't have intel on those two particular acts, but id be willing to guess they'll have other dates. But if I'm wrong how many people do you really think are buying tickets to FYF based on those two acts? The vast majority of tickets will be sold based off LCD and Kendrick. Who are also playing here.
You consistently miss the point on this debate, so I'll try one last time: no fest is going to be 100% original, in that pretty much every single act on every single festival lineup is playing SOMEWHERE else, be it a tour of their own, or another festival. It's more a matter of which festivals tend to reuse the same/similar acts as everyone else, and which ones try to grab some of the lesser-seen acts. So sure, while you probably could find most/all of the FYF lineup in other places, you're not going to have them all collectively together like FYF pulled off. That's the point here. But again, you seem to have a completely different view on this, which basically boils down to "who cares if its original as long as people have fun," which is a completely valid point of view. I get it, and I appreciate it. If I was local to Austin, throwing down a mere $250 for Radiohead/LCD/Kendrick would be more than enough to get me there. It just seems like most of the festivals don't go much beyond that these days - especially the LiveNation trio, each of which has a great top line, and then a pretty generic undercard.
What should be the function of a festival besides that? That's why people are showing up.
And again, I disagree that AEG books "more original lineups." The only acts Coachella had that were unique to Coachella were 2manydjs and Underworld (who could not sell out an 8,000 person venue in NYC between Coachella weekends). You can look at literally any festival lineup and say you won't find the entirety of that lineup any place else. FYF seems more unique than other American festivals because no other American festivals are running that time of year; and thats when those acts tour routing will be bringing them to the states.
Well, of course you stay home if there aren't enough acts you like. But what's wrong with looking at any one of the cookie-cutter lineups from this year and describing them as "uninspired?" That's exactly what they are. And I know you'll just call me a Coachella homer for this, or whatever, but part of the reason I actually liked that lineup was because of the unique/special bookings which made it stand out from the field. That's kind of the whole point - it's why you go to your local burger bar instead of just settling in for yet another Big Mac.
What about Coachella was so unique? Other than Underworld and 2manyDJs (which were sparsely attended and not a draw for anyone but the die hards) almost every act on that bill is either playing other festivals or doing a tour. You could say it was because of the sheer number of acts you personally wanted to see. Well that's subjective, but I happen to agree with it. So then you need to ask yourself why that is. And the answer is they have both the largest talent budget with a $400+ ticket price to go along with that. This event is $250+ and the lineup more than justifies that cost in my subjective opinion. Compare apples to apples. If ACL started charging $150 more, but they threw in one or two acts like an Underworld or 2manyDJs. Maybe it would make you or I happier, but we are in a bubble. Its not going to really move the needle for the majority of attendees. I think your average fest goer would actually be pissed about a price increase in that instance.
The Yuma tent and Despacio make it unique. Plus acts like St. Germain and Parov Stelar. Coachella does an excellent job with non cheesy electronic
What about Coachella was so unique? Other than Underworld and 2manyDJs (which were sparsely attended and not a draw for anyone but the die hards) almost every act on that bill is either playing other festivals or doing a tour. You could say it was because of the sheer number of acts you personally wanted to see. Well that's subjective, but I happen to agree with it. So then you need to ask yourself why that is. And the answer is they have both the largest talent budget with a $400+ ticket price to go along with that. This event is $250+ and the lineup more than justifies that cost in my subjective opinion. Compare apples to apples. If ACL started charging $150 more, but they threw in one or two acts like an Underworld or 2manyDJs. Maybe it would make you or I happier, but we are in a bubble. Its not going to really move the needle for the majority of attendees. I think your average fest goer would actually be pissed about a price increase in that instance.
The Yuma tent and Despacio make it unique. Plus acts like St. Germain and Parov Stelar. Coachella does an excellent job with non cheesy electronic
Plus the setting, the festival grounds and the fantastic sound. Until someone goes to Coachella they won't understand what makes it so special.
The Yuma tent and Despacio make it unique. Plus acts like St. Germain and Parov Stelar. Coachella does an excellent job with non cheesy electronic
But you could probably see those acts in other cities at other dates and times if you want to spend lots of money to go to lots of individual shows so the fact that one festival managed to collect them all in one place is irrelevant and pointless and lineups don't matter as long as people have fun.
i always count on the booty acts to be there so i don't get killed with conflicts.
What about Coachella was so unique? Other than Underworld and 2manyDJs (which were sparsely attended and not a draw for anyone but the die hards) almost every act on that bill is either playing other festivals or doing a tour. You could say it was because of the sheer number of acts you personally wanted to see. Well that's subjective, but I happen to agree with it. So then you need to ask yourself why that is. And the answer is they have both the largest talent budget with a $400+ ticket price to go along with that. This event is $250+ and the lineup more than justifies that cost in my subjective opinion. Compare apples to apples. If ACL started charging $150 more, but they threw in one or two acts like an Underworld or 2manyDJs. Maybe it would make you or I happier, but we are in a bubble. Its not going to really move the needle for the majority of attendees. I think your average fest goer would actually be pissed about a price increase in that instance.
The Yuma tent and Despacio make it unique. Plus acts like St. Germain and Parov Stelar. Coachella does an excellent job with non cheesy electronic
Well now you are getting into production instead of lineup. But even then, Despacio is at other festivals and was a one year Coachella installation. Other festivals have things similar to Yuma; off the top of my head Firefly has the Heineken Dome which isn't as large as Yuma but is the same concept.
I thought with the exception of deadmau5 and Bassnectar, Bonnaroo had a great electronic lineup last year.
I'm not "getting into production" the Yuma tent has the least production out of basically any stage at Coachella. It's some lasers, disco shark, a disco ball, and light up heart outlines. When I say Yuma tent I'm referring to amazing house and techno producers that they book in there. Despacio is only at one other American festival, its pretty damn unique. And I doubt Firefly is booking the likes of Maceo Plex, Adam Beyer, and Nina Kraviz man.
The Yuma tent and Despacio make it unique. Plus acts like St. Germain and Parov Stelar. Coachella does an excellent job with non cheesy electronic
But you could probably see those acts in other cities at other dates and times if you want to spend lots of money to go to lots of individual shows so the fact that one festival managed to collect them all in one place is irrelevant and pointless and lineups don't matter as long as people have fun.
Plus why drive to Las Vegas to see Calvin Harris when Indio is much closer for me.
The Yuma tent and Despacio make it unique. Plus acts like St. Germain and Parov Stelar. Coachella does an excellent job with non cheesy electronic
Well now you are getting into production instead of lineup. But even then, Despacio is at other festivals and was a one year Coachella installation. Other festivals have things similar to Yuma; off the top of my head Firefly has the Heineken Dome which isn't as large as Yuma but is the same concept.
I thought with the exception of deadmau5 and Bassnectar, Bonnaroo had a great electronic lineup last year.
Find any American multigenre festival with the quality of acts in the Yuma collected on one stage, cause this sure ain't it:
Well now you are getting into production instead of lineup. But even then, Despacio is at other festivals and was a one year Coachella installation. Other festivals have things similar to Yuma; off the top of my head Firefly has the Heineken Dome which isn't as large as Yuma but is the same concept.
I thought with the exception of deadmau5 and Bassnectar, Bonnaroo had a great electronic lineup last year.
Find any American multigenre festival with the quality of acts in the Yuma collected on one stage, cause this sure ain't it:
I think they crossed their fingers that someone would read Whitenoize as Boys Noize
Well now you are getting into production instead of lineup. But even then, Despacio is at other festivals and was a one year Coachella installation. Other festivals have things similar to Yuma; off the top of my head Firefly has the Heineken Dome which isn't as large as Yuma but is the same concept.
Again - everything is somewhere else. Everything. Either on tour or at another festival. There will be no festival that is completely unique. But there's a difference between having, say, Sia (who is only performing at one other U.S. date) and Ellie Goulding (who is performing at every fest ever). Like, you cannot make a festival that is 100% original, but you can try and make one that has enough stuff that's uncommon in one way or another, to make a unique experience. For me, at Coachella those acts were Underworld, 2manydjs, Sufjan, Sia, St. Germain, Parov Stelar, Black Coffee, DJ Koze, Matthew Dear, Rancid, GNR, Deafheaven, Lush, etc. Yes, theoretically there are other ways to see these acts, and yeah, some or all of them are at some other festivals or on their own tour, but collecting that many acts of that vein together at one large multi-day fest is what draws me in. I'm not seeing much, if anything, like that from the rest of the big festivals, and that's my point.
Agreed. It's all homogenized. So I don't really understand why you are arguing that AEG promoted festivals are more unique. Everything you can get there, you can get some place else as well.
Sia is playing three US festivals this year, Ellie is playing four. The difference is you personally like Sia more. Which is cool, I do too. I'd rather see her on a lineup than Ellie. I think you are mistaking your personal preference with originality. You said it yourself, everything is somewhere else.
I'm not "getting into production" the Yuma tent has the least production out of basically any stage at Coachella. It's some lasers, disco shark, a disco ball, and light up heart outlines. When I say Yuma tent I'm referring to amazing house and techno producers that they book in there. Despacio is only at one other American festival, its pretty damn unique. And I doubt Firefly is booking the likes of Maceo Plex, Adam Beyer, and Nina Kraviz man.
isnt it all the same people? firefly and coachella>?
I'm not "getting into production" the Yuma tent has the least production out of basically any stage at Coachella. It's some lasers, disco shark, a disco ball, and light up heart outlines. When I say Yuma tent I'm referring to amazing house and techno producers that they book in there. Despacio is only at one other American festival, its pretty damn unique. And I doubt Firefly is booking the likes of Maceo Plex, Adam Beyer, and Nina Kraviz man.
isnt it all the same people? firefly and coachella>?
This is a pretty boring lineup... it's just like you created a lineup generate and clicked "create". I would have loved to see some upper-tier unique act, even if they play a lot... maybe Kanye or Muse or Arcade Fire or somebody that isn't necessary a ridiculously hard GET, but still made for a different experience from Lolla or the other fests. However... and this is the plus side... they didn't FAIL to create a very good regional lineup. As an Austinite I don't have to travel to see Radiohead and LCD Soundsystem, and the undercard, while uninspiring, isn't untalented. I'll gladly watch LL Cool J. I'm not bummed about seeing Miike Snow, Cold War Kids, and all the other festival standards, even if I've seen them before.
So yeah. They didn't create a BAD lineup, they just didn't create a particularly compelling lineup. Nobody is going to travel too far for this, but everybody in Texas should pony up and go see it.
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This is a pretty boring lineup... it's just like you created a lineup generate and clicked "create". I would have loved to see some upper-tier unique act, even if they play a lot... maybe Kanye or Muse or Arcade Fire or somebody that isn't necessary a ridiculously hard GET, but still made for a different experience from Lolla or the other fests. However... and this is the plus side... they didn't FAIL to create a very good regional lineup. As an Austinite I don't have to travel to see Radiohead and LCD Soundsystem, and the undercard, while uninspiring, isn't untalented. I'll gladly watch LL Cool J. I'm not bummed about seeing Miike Snow, Cold War Kids, and all the other festival standards, even if I've seen them before.
So yeah. They didn't create a BAD lineup, they just didn't create a particularly compelling lineup. Nobody is going to travel too far for this, but everybody in Texas should pony up and go see it.
I have gotten three texts this morning asking me if I wanted to go lol. I might, but I want to see the lineups for a few other fall festivals first before committing to one.
Funny people keep bringing up Kanye; I had heard at one point he was actually going to play this. I think his tour is getting pushed back towards the winter now.
Well, obviously there will be people traveling from all over, but they're coming for the FESTIVAL and the TOWN, not the lineup. If this same lineup was in Poughkeepsie, it wouldn't be like "Oh hell yeah!" They did fuck us by making weekend 2 the good weekend, though... since that coincides with the old white man festival Desert Trip in Coachella. I think I'll stay home and see Thom and Willie instead of going west to see Roger and other Roger and Mick, etc.
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I think this is a pretty good/great lineup. It's obviously not the most unique thing in the world (this has been discussed at length already) but it's real good. If this were during the summer, I'd definitely be having a hard time to choosing between Lolla and ACL. But, with Kendrick, FlyLo, and Anderson .Paak being the only three that I'm really dying to see that aren't at Lolla, it just isn't worth shifting around all my class work. All this being said, anyone complaining about this lineup is a fool and needs to stop whining.
"This line up sucks" will not be voiced by the +150k people that will attend it.
You either like it or don't. I just don't think it is a "bad fest."
My dislike w ACL is my personal preference of wanting smaller crowds. 30k+ feels like my comfort level. Again, that's purely personal.
That being said, if FFF line up is boring, I will most likely try this line up or at least go on LCD day. Hopefully that is Sunday and I can come back from 3 nights at Utopia to finish out there.
Moving on, here's to hoping Flight Facilities gets an after show. I really want to see them in a dark setting, and ACL simply just doesn't offer that for its non-HL/pre-HL acts.
I get the point Juggs is making but don't think the AEG vs Livenation thing is fair. Coachella is its own beast, but it's not like Firefly and Hangout are breaking into new taste frontiers.
FYF is a nice festival, but is also way more niche then the fests it is being compared against. If FYF tried to move 100k tickets it would look a bit different.
I get the point Juggs is making but don't think the AEG vs Livenation thing is fair. Coachella is its own beast, but it's not like Firefly and Hangout are breaking into new taste frontiers.
FYF is a nice festival, but is also way more niche then the fests it is being compared against. If FYF tried to move 100k tickets it would look a bit different.
yea what did that forbes article say that acl takes in like 450k people over the two weekends.
I get the point Juggs is making but don't think the AEG vs Livenation thing is fair. Coachella is its own beast, but it's not like Firefly and Hangout are breaking into new taste frontiers.
FYF is a nice festival, but is also way more niche then the fests it is being compared against. If FYF tried to move 100k tickets it would look a bit different.
yea what did that forbes article say that acl takes in like 450k people over the two weekends.
I always find that number to be hyper inflated. They count each day as a person, when it is mostly the same people returning all 3 days. 450k clicks on the entrance, yes, but mostly the same 60k all weekend with a few one day tickets.
Pretty sure its 75k per day max which is still massive and my main issue with ACL. Friday is ussually easy to manage, but it gets stupid crowded especially with a ll the chair people everywhere. I have skipped bands to avoiid walking thru the fest on numerous occasions.
Anyways, I got my weekend one tickets and will probably skip out on Nos alive since I can see radiohead for certain now.
This line-up is pretty killer IMO.
Radiohead LCD Soundsystem Mumford Kendrick Willie Flume M83 Foals Schoolboy Q Haim Miike Snow Andrew Bird Anderson.Paak Conor oberst Margo Price Jack Garratt Haelos Bayonne July Talk and lots of other unknowns and others not mentioned. All of those bands are great live.
For what I paid to go to two days of Lolla, i can go to all three of Austin. Seeing as I missed Roo last year and didn't get to see Kendrick/Mumford (bite me Mumford has some good songs and look like a good show based on the videos I've seen) and I have seen RHCP and LCD. I'm excited to see Willie Neslon even though I am admittedly not a huge fan (never really clicked with me) but the main reason that isn't a headliner that I'm choosing ACL is Anderson .Paak. I missed him for Beach House at Coachella
