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I think what really ends up rubbing me the wrong way about the whole thing, and this actually gets us back to what started this discussion, is this fairly clear effort on Bonnaroo's part right now to really hype up the whole culture of the festival. Once you start branding it like that, all of the magic that happens naturally when you get a ton of people and some great music in that sort of setting begins to feel forced and manufactured.
The high-fives between people when walking through the snaking entrance line used to feel fun. Now it feels required.
I know it's already established that I'm a terrible person, but fuck, I hate high fives so damn much. Also, butt-scratcha and bonnarooooooo yells.
The high-fives between people when walking through the snaking entrance line used to feel fun. Now it feels required.
I know it's already established that I'm a terrible person, but fuck, I hate high fives so damn much. Also, butt-scratcha and bonnarooooooo yells.
Just cut the shit jeez but seriously when the fuck did a high five line start at bonnaroo? I don't even remember a snake line to get in the festival grounds
Anyone who claims that Boston Calling has the best lineup of 2017 hasn't seen the Lollapalooza lineup. It's got a near-perfect genre balance, with the right booking choices in each genre. Fun, fun lineup.
Anyone who claims that Boston Calling has the best lineup of 2017 hasn't seen the Lollapalooza lineup. It's got a near-perfect genre balance, with the right booking choices in each genre. Fun, fun lineup.
That's because its a giant-mega-fest that has the luxury of 25 years of experience, a gigantic park, more $ for booking. Again, if you're mad about Boston Calling just sell your ticket. And just continue to be mad on the internet.
Anyone who claims that Boston Calling has the best lineup of 2017 hasn't seen the Lollapalooza lineup. It's got a near-perfect genre balance, with the right booking choices in each genre. Fun, fun lineup.
That's because its a giant-mega-fest that has the luxury of 25 years of experience, a gigantic park, more $ for booking. Again, if you're mad about Boston Calling just sell your ticket. And just continue to be mad on the internet.
Also once you consider all of the advantages they have, it's actually not such a great lineup. With that money and space they could easily have booked a stronger and more interesting lineup. Lolla continues to set the standard for what I think of as "generic" when it comes to US fests. They also don't have pretty much any of the best artists on BC's lineup (Tool, Bon Iver, Solange, Sigur Ros) and if you go by a "quality relative to the number of artists" ratio then BC easily comes out the winner
Anyone who claims that Boston Calling has the best lineup of 2017 hasn't seen the Lollapalooza lineup. It's got a near-perfect genre balance, with the right booking choices in each genre. Fun, fun lineup.
That's because its a giant-mega-fest that has the luxury of 25 years of experience, a gigantic park, more $ for booking. Again, if you're mad about Boston Calling just sell your ticket. And just continue to be mad on the internet.
So, you think that if I'm unwilling to pledge my undying love of the Boston Calling lineup, that I should sell my ticket? There are a decent-sized handful of acts who are a solid B or B+ for me. It's a decent lineup. I just think that all of the "lineup of the year" kudos which flew around a month or two ago aren't quite as appropriate now that more festival lineups have been announced.
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That's because its a giant-mega-fest that has the luxury of 25 years of experience, a gigantic park, more $ for booking. Again, if you're mad about Boston Calling just sell your ticket. And just continue to be mad on the internet.
Also once you consider all of the advantages they have, it's actually not such a great lineup. With that money and space they could easily have booked a stronger and more interesting lineup. Lolla continues to set the standard for what I think of as "generic" when it comes to US fests. They also don't have pretty much any of the best artists on BC's lineup (Tool, Bon Iver, Solange, Sigur Ros) and if you go by a "quality relative to the number of artists" ratio then BC easily comes out the winner
IMHO, The Killers, Arcade Fire, Liam Gallagher, Ryan Adams > Tool, Bon Iver, Solange, Sigur Ros
Also once you consider all of the advantages they have, it's actually not such a great lineup. With that money and space they could easily have booked a stronger and more interesting lineup. Lolla continues to set the standard for what I think of as "generic" when it comes to US fests. They also don't have pretty much any of the best artists on BC's lineup (Tool, Bon Iver, Solange, Sigur Ros) and if you go by a "quality relative to the number of artists" ratio then BC easily comes out the winner
IMHO, The Killers, Arcade Fire, Liam Gallagher, Ryan Adams > Tool, Bon Iver, Solange, Sigur Ros
Arcade Fire are the only one I really agree with you on. Ryan Adams would've been nice but he's also doing a pretty extensive tour so it's not too big of a get. The Killers are pretty generic and Noel is the Gallagher I'd be interested in seeing.
BC definitely isn't the best of the year but Lolla's not the one that outdid it. That goes to Panorama and FYF.
Also fwiw I'd put money on Arcade Fire headlining next year
That's because its a giant-mega-fest that has the luxury of 25 years of experience, a gigantic park, more $ for booking. Again, if you're mad about Boston Calling just sell your ticket. And just continue to be mad on the internet.
So, you think that if I'm unwilling to pledge my undying love of the Boston Calling lineup, that I should sell my ticket? There are a decent-sized handful of acts who are a sold B or B+ for me. It's a decent lineup. I just think that all of the "lineup of the year" kudos which flew around a month or two ago aren't quite as appropriate now that more festival lineups have been announced.
I'm more saying that you spent your hard earned money on something that ended up not being what you expected, so why not get your money money and save it for something you might enjoy more? Maybe even put that money towards an out-of-town fest in the future? I know you've said in the past that you really carefully pick your live music choices so I just want you to be happy in all honesty.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
So, you think that if I'm unwilling to pledge my undying love of the Boston Calling lineup, that I should sell my ticket? There are a decent-sized handful of acts who are a sold B or B+ for me. It's a decent lineup. I just think that all of the "lineup of the year" kudos which flew around a month or two ago aren't quite as appropriate now that more festival lineups have been announced.
I'm more saying that you spent your hard earned money on something that ended up not being what you expected, so why not get your money money and save it for something you might enjoy more? Maybe even put that money towards an out-of-town fest in the future? I know you've said in the past that you really carefully pick your live music choices so I just want you to be happy in all honesty.
The good thing about the blind early bird tickets is that I paid $140 and change, and I'd definitely pay that amount to see Weezer, Car Seat Headrest, Run The Jewels, Nathaniel Rateliff, and a few others on one three day lineup.
My disappointment with BC is that they consistently delivered one or two of my top two dozen favorites in 2014 and 2015, and they haven't done that lately. Having an act or two that you absolutely love should be part of the mix. It's not like I'm expecting Balinese gong music or Tuvan throat singers. I'd settle for one or two acts like The Replacements, My Morning Jacket, The Decemberists, Neutral Milk Hotel, TV On The Radio, or Father John Misty. You know, the type of acts they used to book.
I work in the alumni office at a college and we got offered discounted tickets to offer to our alumni. They must have a lot left.
I'm not surprised one bit. Tool fans are not paying festival prices to see only them, also they announced other tour dates on the east coast for this summer. Mumford is a wash at this point, they've played the New England region twice behind an album that sold fairly poor.
Solange is an unproven live act, she has always been hit or miss and if her sister wasn't Beyonce she wouldn't have the same amount of hype behind her. Bon Iver, while great, is an acquired taste, a lot of my friends who really enjoyed Bon Iver were really put off by the most recent album.
I'm more saying that you spent your hard earned money on something that ended up not being what you expected, so why not get your money money and save it for something you might enjoy more? Maybe even put that money towards an out-of-town fest in the future? I know you've said in the past that you really carefully pick your live music choices so I just want you to be happy in all honesty.
The good thing about the blind early bird tickets is that I paid $140 and change, and I'd definitely pay that amount to see Weezer, Car Seat Headrest, Run The Jewels, Nathaniel Rateliff, and a few others on one three day lineup.
My disappointment with BC is that they consistently delivered one or two of my top two dozen favorites in 2014 and 2015, and they haven't done that lately. Having an act or two that you absolutely love should be part of the mix. It's not like I'm expecting Balinese gong music or Tuvan throat singers. I'd settle for one or two acts like The Replacements, My Morning Jacket, The Decemberists, Neutral Milk Hotel, TV On The Radio, or Father John Misty. You know, the type of acts they used to book.
This lineup is filled with those type of acts. Just not ones that you specifically absolutely love. For instance, while I also absolutely love the names you listed, I absolutely love Bon Iver, Sigur Ros, and Run the Jewels. A whole lot of people absolutely love Tool and Chance. Not to mention that the bottom half of the lineup has some of the best newer indie rock artists out there.
From an objective standpoint, this lineup is filled almost exclusively with critically acclaimed artists, many of whom are also very popular, which makes it a very strong lineup. Out of the artists making the rounds this festival season they got a whole lot of the good ones, and most of the ones they didn't are either touring heavily and playing the Boston area or are in play for next year.
EDIT: Regarding ticket sales, you also have to factor in how much bigger the grounds are. My guess is that in actuality the new venue might be too big for any festival in the Boston area. But maybe they are just selling poorly.
EDIT: Regarding ticket sales, you also have to factor in how much bigger the grounds are. My guess is that in actuality the new venue might be too big for any festival in the Boston area. But maybe they are just selling poorly.
If it's not gonna sell out and will be like last year's Panorama, I'm absolutely fine with it.
EDIT: Regarding ticket sales, you also have to factor in how much bigger the grounds are. My guess is that in actuality the new venue might be too big for any festival in the Boston area. But maybe they are just selling poorly.
If it's not gonna sell out and will be like last year's Panorama, I'm absolutely fine with it.
They're only using 17 of the 90 acres available at Harvard Athletic Complex. 35K on 17 acres still provides more breathing room than 22K on 8 acres, though.
If it's not gonna sell out and will be like last year's Panorama, I'm absolutely fine with it.
They're only using 17 of the 90 acres available at Harvard Athletic Complex. 35K on 17 acres still provides more breathing room than 22K on 8 acres, though.
Just for sake of comparison, how many acres is City Hall Plaza?
The good thing about the blind early bird tickets is that I paid $140 and change, and I'd definitely pay that amount to see Weezer, Car Seat Headrest, Run The Jewels, Nathaniel Rateliff, and a few others on one three day lineup.
My disappointment with BC is that they consistently delivered one or two of my top two dozen favorites in 2014 and 2015, and they haven't done that lately. Having an act or two that you absolutely love should be part of the mix. It's not like I'm expecting Balinese gong music or Tuvan throat singers. I'd settle for one or two acts like The Replacements, My Morning Jacket, The Decemberists, Neutral Milk Hotel, TV On The Radio, or Father John Misty. You know, the type of acts they used to book.
This lineup is filled with those type of acts. Just not ones that you specifically absolutely love. For instance, while I also absolutely love the names you listed, I absolutely love Bon Iver, Sigur Ros, and Run the Jewels. A whole lot of people absolutely love Tool and Chance. Not to mention that the bottom half of the lineup has some of the best newer indie rock artists out there.
From an objective standpoint, this lineup is filled almost exclusively with critically acclaimed artists, many of whom are also very popular, which makes it a very strong lineup. Out of the artists making the rounds this festival season they got a whole lot of the good ones, and most of the ones they didn't are either touring heavily and playing the Boston area or are in play for next year.
EDIT: Regarding ticket sales, you also have to factor in how much bigger the grounds are. My guess is that in actuality the new venue might be too big for any festival in the Boston area. But maybe they are just selling poorly.
True, it's not like they didn't book any acts which could play Newport or Riot Fest, they just didn't book the ones that I personally like the most. Maybe I just lucked out in 2014 and 2015, as opposed to the two latest editions.
But, if ticket sales aren't as strong as they'd like, it couldn't have hurt to sell more tickets by including a couple of acts that skew a bit older...like Paul Simon, who's headlining at Eaux Claires. And their folkish acts are the least country-skewing ones they could have booked. Would it have killed them to book Margo Price? If you're not selling as many tickets as you'd like, you need to look at your line-up and add what's not there or what's not plentiful. If there are any more cancellations, they should use that opportunity to broaden the booking a bit, not book yet another local metal/math-rock band.
Honestly, as soon as Illinois becomes a legalization state, I'm moving to Chicago. Lollapalooza, Riot Fest, Pitchfork, 6+ Wilco shows per year, great pizza, great public transportation.
They're only using 17 of the 90 acres available at Harvard Athletic Complex. 35K on 17 acres still provides more breathing room than 22K on 8 acres, though.
Just for sake of comparison, how many acres is City Hall Plaza?
This lineup is filled with those type of acts. Just not ones that you specifically absolutely love. For instance, while I also absolutely love the names you listed, I absolutely love Bon Iver, Sigur Ros, and Run the Jewels. A whole lot of people absolutely love Tool and Chance. Not to mention that the bottom half of the lineup has some of the best newer indie rock artists out there.
From an objective standpoint, this lineup is filled almost exclusively with critically acclaimed artists, many of whom are also very popular, which makes it a very strong lineup. Out of the artists making the rounds this festival season they got a whole lot of the good ones, and most of the ones they didn't are either touring heavily and playing the Boston area or are in play for next year.
EDIT: Regarding ticket sales, you also have to factor in how much bigger the grounds are. My guess is that in actuality the new venue might be too big for any festival in the Boston area. But maybe they are just selling poorly.
True, it's not like they didn't book any acts which could play Newport or Riot Fest, they just didn't book the ones that I personally like the most. Maybe I just lucked out in 2014 and 2015, as opposed to the two latest editions.
But, if ticket sales aren't as strong as they'd like, it couldn't have hurt to sell more tickets by including a couple of acts that skew a bit older...like Paul Simon, who's headlining at Eaux Claires. And their folkish acts are the least country-skewing ones they could have booked. Would it have killed them to book Margo Price? If you're not selling as many tickets as you'd like, you need to look at your line-up and add what's not there or what's not plentiful. If there are any more cancellations, they should use that opportunity to broaden the booking a bit, not book yet another local metal/math-rock band.
Honestly, as soon as Illinois becomes a legalization state, I'm moving to Chicago. Lollapalooza, Riot Fest, Pitchfork, 6+ Wilco shows per year, great pizza, great public transportation.
Sure, if you like taxes on your taxes. And the public trans isn't actually that good.
This lineup is filled with those type of acts. Just not ones that you specifically absolutely love. For instance, while I also absolutely love the names you listed, I absolutely love Bon Iver, Sigur Ros, and Run the Jewels. A whole lot of people absolutely love Tool and Chance. Not to mention that the bottom half of the lineup has some of the best newer indie rock artists out there.
From an objective standpoint, this lineup is filled almost exclusively with critically acclaimed artists, many of whom are also very popular, which makes it a very strong lineup. Out of the artists making the rounds this festival season they got a whole lot of the good ones, and most of the ones they didn't are either touring heavily and playing the Boston area or are in play for next year.
EDIT: Regarding ticket sales, you also have to factor in how much bigger the grounds are. My guess is that in actuality the new venue might be too big for any festival in the Boston area. But maybe they are just selling poorly.
True, it's not like they didn't book any acts which could play Newport or Riot Fest, they just didn't book the ones that I personally like the most. Maybe I just lucked out in 2014 and 2015, as opposed to the two latest editions.
But, if ticket sales aren't as strong as they'd like, it couldn't have hurt to sell more tickets by including a couple of acts that skew a bit older...like Paul Simon, who's headlining at Eaux Claires. And their folkish acts are the least country-skewing ones they could have booked. Would it have killed them to book Margo Price? If you're not selling as many tickets as you'd like, you need to look at your line-up and add what's not there or what's not plentiful. If there are any more cancellations, they should use that opportunity to broaden the booking a bit, not book yet another local metal/math-rock band.
Honestly, as soon as Illinois becomes a legalization state, I'm moving to Chicago. Lollapalooza, Riot Fest, Pitchfork, 6+ Wilco shows per year, great pizza, great public transportation.
Grass is always greener buddy. Coming from someone who absolutely adores Chicago.
but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal. 
