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I'm a total music nerd. I literally teach drum lessons and run a music store for a living, so for me, watching Danny Carey live tonight was totally unreal. Tool is a machine. They don't miss a freaking beat and it's some of the most intense music, musically speaking. I'm in awe of how good it was. Not for everyone. My GF did not have a great time tonight. I had a blast though. Unreal how tight they are.
I got the impression that they could do some amazing things with visuals in a non-festival setting (i.e. their own shows), like Coldplay did on their 2012 tour where visuals weren't simply originating on the stage and projecting out in a single direction, but situated throughout the venue.
It might make sense for them to explore how holograms and virtual reality can augment the visual presentation at concerts.
What they did visually tonight was pretty cool, but I could see them using venues as a canvas to do something even bigger.
also you guys know that it wasn't a traffic cone, it was like a modern-art Bunker Hill Monument, right
HA!! That reminds me...as I was walking out of the grounds tonight, there were five orange traffic cones stuck between the fence and a pillar on the side of the walkway bordering the street.
It was a veritable quintet of traffic cone goodness and a great way to put an exclamation point on my first supersized festival experience.
They ended ten minutes before scheduled. I was satisfied with their length
I was fine with the length, I just wish chance and tool got that long too... chance played right till 11 and still had plenty of material left
At the end of the day Mumford played slightly less than they were scheduled for and Tool played slightly more than they were scheduled for (though I wasn't sure if they started exactly on time). Either way they played past their set time and started their final song like a minute or two before they were supposedly done.
All in all an amazing fest. I felt like all 3 headliners really delivered here (and loved Chance/Mumford both taking a sprint out to behind the soundboard on the mini-stage for folks in the back of the crowd to get a moment of glory). On top of that most of the sets I saw during the weekend were good to great and the weather overall was solid (a little too rainy Friday but not killer and a little too sunny Saturday but Sunday was a perfect mix).
This may change but on my 6 a.m. review I'm going with Top 5 (in order):
1.) Tool 2.) Chance the Rapper 3.) Mumford & Sons 4.) Brandi Carlile 5.) Mac Demarco
Honorable Mentions: Run the Jewels was awesome as usual and the banter between songs was extra funny. Also really liked The XX and Bon Iver sets (but both had some crowd-talking/setting issues). Hannibal in the comedy tent was hilarious as well as Eugene Mirman and Jordan Rock
Day 2 thoughts, the proximity of the red and green stages is starting to get to me. It's quite difficult to move after 4:00 in that area, there's just too many people. That being said, a friend who works for the festival shared with me that they capped the fest this year at 35k since it was the first year on the new grounds. Next year supposedly they aim to at least DOUBLE the capacity in the same space, which seems horrifying to me.
Hopefully, by "same space," your friend meant Harvard Athletic Complex, which includes a lot of space which wasn't being used this time around. There is literally no way they could double the number of attendees without increasing the acreage used. The entire complex is close to 90 acres and they used 18 of them, so there's room to grow.
Even if they didn't increase the number of stages but added another 15 acres for additional portolets, food vendors, and pedestrian walkways, that would help them accommodate larger crowds.
I know that a lot of you have done other big festivals, and I'm really curious if other festivals with similar lineups are that crowded with endless food lines, portolet waits, and everything else we encountered. Is the new, supersized Boston Calling an outlier, or is this similar to the experience at, say, Governors Ball?
I did panorama last year, which also had 3 "stages" (big stage, tent and small indoor stage) and I thought it was a lot better as far as infrastructure, lines, stage staggering, bathrooms, etc. Now, I don't remember what the attendance was like, although I know it undersold by a good bit. Still, a festival shouldn't be so unprepared for its attendees as this one was. First year, so I get it, but a lot of the problems would have been fixed by just having the red and green stage farther away. With that said though:
Top 5 1) Bon Iver (top 2 show of all time for me) 2) The XX 3) Mumford and Sons 4) Cage the Elephant 5) Sylvan Esso
I'm a total music nerd. I literally teach drum lessons and run a music store for a living, so for me, watching Danny Carey live tonight was totally unreal. Tool is a machine. They don't miss a freaking beat and it's some of the most intense music, musically speaking. I'm in awe of how good it was. Not for everyone. My GF did not have a great time tonight. I had a blast though. Unreal how tight they are.
I totally agree with the musicianship. Those mfers don't even look at each other or interact. They are spaced way far appart. It's unclear if they know they are in the same band. But they are hella tight and given the complexity it's amazing they are so flawless. Total pros. The bass and drums are ridic. Honestly I have never seen a band where the lead singers seems so inconsequential.
I just don't enjoy the music/anti vibe. But they are talented. Let there be no doubt
I'm a total music nerd. I literally teach drum lessons and run a music store for a living, so for me, watching Danny Carey live tonight was totally unreal. Tool is a machine. They don't miss a freaking beat and it's some of the most intense music, musically speaking. I'm in awe of how good it was. Not for everyone. My GF did not have a great time tonight. I had a blast though. Unreal how tight they are.
I totally agree with the musicianship. Those mfers don't even look at each other or interact. They are spaced way far appart. It's unclear if they know they are in the same band. But they are hella tight and given the complexity it's amazing they are so flawless. Total pros. The bass and drums are ridic. Honestly I have never seen a band where the lead singers seems so inconsequential.
I just don't enjoy the music/anti vibe. But they are talented. Let there be no doubt
Yeah Maynard kind of has a rep for being a pompous ass hat so I get that. I don't know if a fest is the best place for his whole shitk sometimes. Kind of reminded me of Eminem at Roo where he told everyone to tell each other to go fuck themselves or something along those line. My friends and I were like, hmm, no?
But other than him it really sounds like they could have been playing the recordings that's how tight it was. Makes me want to go home and just practice for a week straight lol
Attended for Friday & Saturday, and overall, I liked this venue more than the previous one. I hope they keep the same place for the future editions, and use more space. Mud was never an issue for me, since I wanted to catch a lot of sets so I was not at the very front of the crowd for many sets (except Sigur Ros). About the lines; toilet lines were long, but there were other porta potties near the blue stage that seemed relatively empty, so that shouldn't be an issue. Food lines were a little crazy I must admit, I got my food before 5 pm on Friday, and I didn't wait, but on Saturday I missed the entire Tegan & Sara set just to get some food from Arancini Bros. But also, Saturday seemed a little overcrowded for me, so that's might be why that's the case.
Now about the music. I could see a lot of sets on Friday, so I'm happy about it, but on Saturday I couldn't see anyone before Oh Wonder as me and my crew ended up hanging out at the Mikkeller tent. I must admit I enjoyed Mumford & Sons more than I thought I would, and I was a little underwhelmed with Sylvan Esso to be honest. I also wanted to check Chance, but I was so tired after Sigur Ros and all the rain, I left the venue early.
Here is my top three:
1. The xx 2. Bon Iver 3. Sigur Ros
Last Edit: May 29, 2017 10:36:00 GMT -5 by Fred - Back to Top
My only legitimate gripe is with the food lines, those were ridiculous. The beer and Porta-Potty lines were long in some places but if you knew where to look you could avoid them entirely.
I do kind of wish they had mixed up the schedules a little bit. you could tell that they were clearly going for three different genres with Friday being the alternative indie rock type with Saturday being more of the acoustic folk music and Sunday being the harder Rock and punk. This is probably great for selling single days, but as someone who had a three-day pass and enjoys quite a range of music I was hoping for a little more variety throughout each day, Saturday was very slow and Friday had way too many conflicts.
If tickets sell like they did this year, I most likely will be waiting for the last minute and going on Craigslist. My brother was able to snatch a 3-day pass for less than I paid for mine and my mom bought a single day for only $50
. I hope they keep the same place for the future editions, and use more space. Mud was never an issue for me, since I wanted to catch a lot of sets so I was at the very front of the crowd for many sets (except Sigur Ros). About the lines; toilet lines were long, but there were other porta potties near the blue stage that seemed relatively empty, so that shouldn't be an issue.
True on Friday and Saturday, but there were lines even at those far potties behind the Blue stage bleachers on Sunday. Unlike the food lines, though, they were never too bad and the wait was never more than a couple of minutes.
I did learn an important lesson last night, though. There is no better metaphorical representation of the depths of human despair than a porta-potty at a music festival after 10 pm on Sunday night (especially when Tool is playing in the background).
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Initially the lineup seemed inspired that was before it was apparent that chance and the xx was this year's festival whores and before tool had governors Ball and there are mini East Coast tour. Still any festival with Sigur Ros bon iver a tool mumpsons chance top line along with some unique stuff like Brandi Carlisle and some hometown stuff like the hotelier needs to be taken seriously Nice work
I thought the layout was completely jacked. The red stage green stage thing would've worked if the red stage was fairly small acts and maybe the fourth stage. As constructive its semi insane
The Blue stage was Great. 3-4 of those and they would really have something. I thought the sound bleed was pretty annoying and I was on the rail for the blue stage most of the time I was there
Shaky knees Really spoiled me with their half hour in between acts on all stages. Because of the crowds and my insane need to have good spots I chose to rail most of the headliners starting at 4:30 or five. That our break followed by the hour 15 break was quite annoying. The only good thing was being at the green staged it allowed me to see the XX from a far. I have to be honest I don't get it I have no idea how they were at headliner or a sub headliner I got to see you run the jewels from afar and I get it but I'm not particularly a fan. I got to see major Lazer from a far and I really don't get it. But I do like the booty squad
I thought the lineup was worth the ticket price but the set up definitely was not. Security was incredibly lax at the gate and a bunch of incredible dicks inside. I don't smoke and don't even really like it but I do not consider it to be a unimaginable offense against humanity
The Friday Saturday Sunday scheduling thing made a lot of sense to me however moving the Sigur Ros time to overlap bon iver was stupidity of the highest order
Since I don't have any other place to put it I really don't get the hate for mumpsons there are very talented and put on a good show and I think their songs are pretty good
I have this as a 7.5 out of 10 I liked shaky knees a lot better but just because it's indie/rock through and through. I think this would work a lot better with one additional stage and a few more artists each day. There was a few too many times where I was choosing between the lesser of two evils and not what I really wanted to see
Post by RedFrog Intern on May 29, 2017 13:33:36 GMT -5
Agree on the sentiment about Bon Iver and Sigur Ros. I left after 8 circle and was pissed to see the setlist Bon Iver finished off with. Oh well.
Overall a fun weekend and a new festival. Some disorganization in the food vendor area. Also the stage setup/scheduling wasn't very good.
Pros: Comedy area was awesome. Turf fields are really nice. The venue itself was a really nice spot that, so I will definitely be considering Boston Calling the the future.
Favorite sets:
1) Sigur Ros: Theyre always amazing and I love all of their music.
2) Tool: One of the tightest groups I've seen live for sure. Didn't know all of their song but it didn't matter. Production was top notch as well (especially the weird imageruy).
3) The xx: Awesome awesome awesome. Jamie kept my feet movin. That group would be amiss without him.
4) Danny Brown: Ran through a great selection of songs and the mosh pit during Attak was crazy awesome.
5) Bon Iver (partial): Good from what I saw. 8 Circle was one of the best songs I saw all weekend. Tons of emotion.
HM: Pup and Converge were much better than what I expected. Tons of fun. Flatbush Zombies were awesome too. I was right next to Meechy when he came into the crowd and stole someones joint. Jordan Rock and Hannibel Buress were really funny as well.
Worst: Major Lazer was garbage. Cage had terrible vocals (really just a glorified sing along). Mitski was okay but kind of boring (even though I really liked Puberty 2).
I won't go on about the negative things I've already said earlier, but I will say Friday might of been one of the best days of music for me. Whitney - Car Seat Headrest - Mac DeMarco - Bon Iver - Chance was incredible. Danny Brown was also bonkers on Saturday. Kevin Morby and Mumford were both enjoyable. It's fun to see how crazy the crowd was for old Mumford songs, and when they played anything from the new album nobody cared. Cage and Mitski were both great on Sunday. However, the pre-teens in the crowd for both Mitski and Bon Iver almost ruined those shows for me. I was only in Boston for my sisters' graduation, but even if I did live nearby I wouldn't be going back unless they decreased the capacity or increased the space they have and added two more stages. Hangout has 6 stages and seemed to have the same capacity, but Boston Calling only had 3 and you could tell, especially once it hit 6 pm. Lines for food were at least 30-40 minutes long. Scheduling made no sense, and there were times where I looked around and I thought it was on almost Frye Festival level in terms of poor planning.
My Top 10: Whitney Bon Iver Mac DeMarco Chance the Rapper Danny Brown Cage the Elephant Mumford & Sons Car Seat Headrest Mitski Kevin Morby
It's funny to see people complaining on the festival's FB feed over lines, I mean, it is a music festival, did you expect to just walk up to any booth expecting no line? Sure this was the first iteration at the Harvard Athletic Complex but all i can say after spending three days there with both friends and family is WOW. I have been to numerous festivals and there is something so special about the aura that the Boston music sphere provides. While there are greater festivals that provide a better bang for your buck and have nicer amenities, this was a great step in the right direction of the festivals' future. I looks so forward to coming back and see how they can improve. Anyways, in similar fashion to others here, here are my top 5 in no specific order:
Mumford & Sons Mac Demarco Tool Sigur Ros Run the Jewels
Btw, a real positive about the festival is the location. I've done a few city festivals now and this was by far the easiest to get in and out of. Also super close to so many places to grab drinks, food and coffee. The T wasn't far either and we stayed in alewife, so getting back every night was simple. Hard contrast to the shit show that is randalls island and zilker at the end of the night.
Btw, a real positive about the festival is the location. I've done a few city festivals now and this was by far the easiest to get in and out of. Also super close to so many places to grab drinks, food and coffee. The T wasn't far either and we stayed in alewife, so getting back every night was simple. Hard contrast to the shit show that is randalls island and zilker at the end of the night.
Post by setlistvulture on May 29, 2017 16:28:14 GMT -5
Hopefully this isn't overkill, but I wanted to do a little write up, and expand on my top 10. Thinking about reviving my blog so wanted to do this for BC and Gov Ball next weekend to see what people thought.
1) Sigur Ros - Sigur Ros closed out the blue stage Friday night opposite Chance the Rapper in what can only be called a truly magical experience. Even with the frigid spring rain trying to destroy the mood of the crowd waiting for Jonsi and the gang to take the stage it was a night to remember. Early set fan favorites such as "Saeglopur" and "Ny Batteri", took the crowd by the horns, and allowed for Sigur to take us all on a journey down a rabbit hole that would make Alice's look plain.
2)Wolf Parade - "We just finished our new album." When these words left Guitarist Dan Beckoner's mouth the crowd whipped into a frenzy. Last year Wolf Parade returned from an indefinite hiatus that started in 2011, and new music from the Canadian indie rock icons has been waited for since. They satiated our hunger a little with their self titled EP last year, but now that we know a full length album is coming, it can't come soon enough. The band's set teased us with two phenomenal two songs, the second of which stuck out especially (the working title supposedly is Loverboy). In addition the band played crowd favorites such as "I'll Believe in Anything" and "Kiss the Behive" to put the exclamation point on a truly spectacular set.
3)Strand of Oaks - The Philadelphia based rock quartet can do no wrong. Led by frontman and mastermind Timothy Showalter the group's early afternoon set on Saturday was a standout moment in a day that was otherwise pretty lackluster. The positivity Showalter exudes is contagious, and as a fan of music you cannot help but get down to the group's lucious guitar riffs, and dynamic solos. These boys are on the verge of blowing up, so catch 'em at a small venue while you can. Stand out songs include the always stellar "JM" which was dedicated to Chris Cornell, and the set opener, the band's current single, "Radio Kids".
4) Sylvan Esso - This was my first time seeing the explosive electronic duo from Durham, NC featuring Amelia Meath and Nick Sanborn. The group took the red stage mid afternoon, and instantly had the chilled crowd warm again with their infectious dance beats, and hooks that just make you want to scream them back with as much energy as possible, and of course there was the dancing. The best part of any Sylvan Esso show has to be Miss Meath's dancing, the girl gets down with the best of them, and turns an already high energy show into a spectacle.
5)Mondo Cozmo - Another group on the verge of blowing up is Mondo Cozmo, who opened the red stage on Sunday. Spearheaded by former Philadelphian Josh Ostrander the group plays very straight forward, but perfectly executed rock n roll, for me they are very reminiscent of U2. The groups lead single "Shine" is a feel good summer anthem that could very easily be a song of the summer contestant if the chorus was not so drug oriented. On this day though the stand out of the set had to be their stellar cover of The Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony" which quickly provoked a lot of energy out of what can be a tired Sunday morning crowd.
6)Frightened Rabbit - The Scottish quintet Frightened Rabbit started their mid day blue stage set, by letting us know what a bunch of "boring cunts" they had to play out at a festival in Napa. Upon hearing this Boston was determined to not let the band down applauding for as long as two minutes between songs. The group's setlist was constructed excellently staring off early with fan favorites such as "Holy" and "Modern Leper" and wrapping things up with "The Woodpile". The band sprinkled in a bunch of great songs of their 2016 release "Painting of a Panic Attack", and shone a new light on them by rocking them up a little more from the rather somber synth driven album versions.
7)Deerhoof - In my opinion Deerhoof might be the most misunderstood band in Indie music. The art rock group I believe don't take themselves too seriously, and that's the genius of their act. They are up their to make music, and have fun. I was disappointed that their trademark cover of "Pour Some Sugar On Me" didn't appear, but that didn't take away from the fact that their set was so good it made the freaking sun come out.
8)Brandi Carlile - I went to this set strictly to sing along to "The Story". That being said I was quickly blown away by Miss Carlile's vocal prowess. Her set from start to finish showed why she has been doing this with the degree of success she's had for 15 years. Her songs all pack a punch and are quite memorable. The clear set stand out to me was when half the band left the stage and her and her guitarist and bassist performed a gorgeous song in three part harmony, not sure of the title, but I will definitely be looking it up.
9)Mac Demarco - Mac knows how to put on a show, this is common knowledge. On this day the audience was treated to prom dances a strange, but glorious Vanessa Carlton cover, and Mac telling security off, all of these, and so much more made this set one I won't soon forget. "Chamber of Reflection" I thought was especially delightful on this day.
10)Mitski - Going into Mitski I thought I hated her. How wrong I was. Mitski's set was filled with great millennial angst that I want to see more of. Her vocal versatility also has me very intrigued, and her stand out single "Your Best American Girl" was all I wanted and more live. Definitely checking her out in Philly in a few months.
he/they '12 - Firefly '13 - Firefly, Made In America '14 - Firefly, Made In America '15 - Mountain Jam (Sunday), Firefly, Pitchfork, Made In America '16 - Boston Calling, Firefly, Osheaga, Made In America, Roots Picnic NYC '17 - Boston Calling, Gov Ball, Firefly (Sunday), Pitchfork, Day For Night '18 - Boston Calling, Mountain Jam, Osheaga '19 - Form, Firefly (Sunday) '22 - Boston Calling, Firefly '24 - Solid Sound, Soundside
With respect to #7 I mean if you're not going to trash Deerhoof there is no point in having a blog. That was horrific
Also I have one of those live nation passes that get you into every festival. And I'm going to make full use out of it. See you at governors Ball. I will make commentary on your commentary
Still on the bus back to NYC, so I'll just do a top 10 for now.
Chance Brandi Carlile Mitski Bon Iver (end of the set was my top moment of the get though) Sylvan Esso Kevin Morby RTJ Mumford Flatbush Zombies Hiss Golden Messenger
Unfortunately I had to leave Tool after a few songs because no one else was feeling it. But I liked what I heard, and the visuals were awesome.
With respect to #7 I mean if you're not going to trash Deerhoof there is no point in having a blog. That was horrific
Also I have one of those live nation passes that get you into every festival. And I'm going to make full use out of it. See you at governors Ball. I will make commentary on your commentary
Hard to take anything here seriously after you start off with "bro"
Post by thevagabond on May 29, 2017 19:53:16 GMT -5
Sigur Ros
Mumford Tool Danny Brown Bon Iver Francis Mondo Cozmo Hiss Golden Messenger Strand of Oaks Cousin Stizz
I'm having a really hard time not being biased against bands I've already seen in these rankings. Bon Iver was great but it was never going to top the Hammerstein show in December
edit: Sigur Ros was far and beyond the best show i saw this weekend
With respect to #7 I mean if you're not going to trash Deerhoof there is no point in having a blog. That was horrific
Also I have one of those live nation passes that get you into every festival. And I'm going to make full use out of it. See you at governors Ball. I will make commentary on your commentary
Post by itrainmonkeys on May 29, 2017 20:50:35 GMT -5
Lots of talking and off-timed singing hurt my Bon Iver show. I wish I made more of an effort to get in earlier and get closer because the spots I was finding in the middle were distracting at best. Great set but it didn't hit me as much as others because of my environment.
Enjoyed Flatbush Zombies and Cage the Elephant more than I thought I would. Mostly because of me now knowing them too much but wanting to check out anyway.
Tool was stellar. I loved how the stage show built up more and more throughout the show. In the beginning there was little video and lights and stuff like that and as each song progressed they introduced more and more that made it amazing. Can't wait to see them this Sunday at Governors Ball (hopefully no rain).
Post by The Foot Fuckin' Master on May 29, 2017 20:55:48 GMT -5
Regarding all the talk with disorganized food vendors and bathroom lines... BC has been doing this for years, they should be fully aware of what it takes to have things run smoothly. I would bet that rather than spend additional money on food staff and porta potties, they didn't bother with the extra expenses.
Which blows. Ticket buyers have the right to expect that the organizers are doing everything in good faith to make the smoothest experience possible.
Best sets of the weekend, by time: Sigur Ros, Mumfords, Weezer, Tool.
HM: Car Seat, Danny Brown, The XX, Pup, Converge, RTJ, Cage
Like the new venue, the turf was a nice perk and is way better than the brick at CHP. Yea they can do better with lines and a few other things, but I had a good weekend. Got to see a bunch of good bands and a bunch of Inforooers and close to home.
I had to split time between the festival and work all weekend and overall I thought it was great, especially with the new location. Blue stage was my favorite set up, wish I caught more acts there. Everything in terms of lines improved through the weekend as I'm sure the festival will too in coming years. Enjoyed all the acts I saw but if I had to:
Bon Iver Chance Run the Jewels Strand of Oaks Francis Sylvan Esso Alexandra Savior Weezer
Caught most of Tool who I never really got into but they are awesome. What I saw of Cage, Tkay Maidza and Whitney sounded good too. Moses Sumney was my only "meh".