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Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
A one two punch of Radiohead and Kanye West would get me (and most people with good taste) to pretty much any music festival.
They could both be headlining a festival in Antarctica for all I care. I'd still find my way there
I have zero interest in Kanye. Like to the point of skipping the festival if he was at it. But as you can see from my dream lists, I am a Deadhead who likes old school hip hop. Kanye does nothing for me but I know a lot of ya'll would be excited.
people keep forgetting Osheaga was the 7th highest grossing festival of 2015
I'm not counting on both Radiohead and Kanye to be on the bill. But in all likelihood, Osheaga has the ability to book both Radiohead and Kanye and still have enough money to get a respectable undercard
people keep forgetting Osheaga was the 7th highest grossing festival of 2015
I'm not counting on both Radiohead and Kanye to be on the bill. But in all likelihood, Osheaga has the ability to book both Radiohead and Kanye and still have enough money to get a respectable undercard
Ok so I had to google to make sure you weren't crazy...but how is that possible? Osheaga is way smaller and cheaper than so many festivals. I don't understand that list at all. Just doing some back of the envelope math that list can't be accurate. Where does bonnaroo and firefly fit into the picture?
people keep forgetting Osheaga was the 7th highest grossing festival of 2015
I'm not counting on both Radiohead and Kanye to be on the bill. But in all likelihood, Osheaga has the ability to book both Radiohead and Kanye and still have enough money to get a respectable undercard
Ok so I had to google to make sure you weren't crazy...but how is that possible? Osheaga is way smaller and cheaper than so many festivals. I don't understand that list at all. Just doing some back of the envelope math that list can't be accurate. Where does bonnaroo and firefly fit into the picture?
Good point, those fests both have over 75k people at even $300 a pop that is over 20 mil and they aren't on the list.
Edit: Even the mid size fests like Hangout would be higher than the figure given Osheaga. 40k at $250 a person is 10 mil while Osheaga is listed at 9.25.
Edit: Roo was grossing 14.5 twelve years ago......http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/1435581/bonnaroo-scores-high-gross-attendance
Ok so I had to google to make sure you weren't crazy...but how is that possible? Osheaga is way smaller and cheaper than so many festivals. I don't understand that list at all. Just doing some back of the envelope math that list can't be accurate. Where does bonnaroo and firefly fit into the picture?
Good point, those fests both have over 75k people at even $300 a pop that is over 20 mil and they aren't on the list.
Exactly, idk how that BS managed to get published. How does that shit get past the people at Forbes? Absolutely no explanation how those festivals wound up on the list and it's clearly not accurate. To top it off, its been blindly reposted by numerous other news sources...I don't get it.
All festivals operate differently. Just because a fest may bring in $20 mil from ticket sales doesn't mean they're walking away with a high net profit amount. Countless other expenditures come into play, many of which may not be taken into consideration by the average festival goer (permits, insurance, etc etc).
Who knows - Osheaga may make a ton of money from sponsorships, food vendors, ad revenues, etc. It would be very interesting if the Forbes article provided a breakdown of how each fest amasses its net profit, but I highly doubt an online publication as reputable as Forbes would publish an error filled article regarding how much money the highest grossing music festivals walk away with when all is said and done.
All festivals operate differently. Just because a fest may bring in $20 mil from ticket sales doesn't mean they're walking away with a high net profit amount. Countless other expenditures come into play, many of which may not be taken into consideration by the average festival goer (permits, insurance, etc etc).
Who knows - Osheaga may make a ton of money from sponsorships, food vendors, ad revenues, etc. It would be very interesting if the Forbes article provided a breakdown of how each fest amasses its net profit, but I highly doubt an online publication as reputable as Forbes would publish an error filled article regarding how much money the highest grossing music festivals walk away with when all is said and done.
The article bills it as GROSS revenue though. Not net profit. They also say it is based off ticket sales:
"A total of $195 million (and change) was collected in ticket sales by the ten most successful events, with Coachella in a distant first place." "and that says nothing of merchandise, food and beverage sales, and the like"
No idea how this article got as much play as it did. It's not even close to accurate.
All festivals operate differently. Just because a fest may bring in $20 mil from ticket sales doesn't mean they're walking away with a high net profit amount. Countless other expenditures come into play, many of which may not be taken into consideration by the average festival goer (permits, insurance, etc etc).
Who knows - Osheaga may make a ton of money from sponsorships, food vendors, ad revenues, etc. It would be very interesting if the Forbes article provided a breakdown of how each fest amasses its net profit, but I highly doubt an online publication as reputable as Forbes would publish an error filled article regarding how much money the highest grossing music festivals walk away with when all is said and done.
The article bills it as GROSS revenue though. Not net profit. They also say it is based off ticket sales:
"A total of $195 million (and change) was collected in ticket sales by the ten most successful events, with Coachella in a distant first place." "and that says nothing of merchandise, food and beverage sales, and the like"
No idea how this article got as much play as it did. It's not even close to accurate.
Which says the lists were compiled from boxscores reported. So it must just be a list of people who reported to billboard. Either way it's dumb and misleading.
When you click through the Virgin presale, it looks like tickets will be 317$ all inclusive this year. Last year they were 285$.
increase will provide Osheaga with a $4M+ increase in their budget.
Where do you get that number? That would be for 125k weekend passes (4mil/$32 increase). There were maybe 125k over the three days combined but only about 40k weekend passes sold from what I have heard which would be 1.28 million more CAD (plus any single day boosts etc.).
increase will provide Osheaga with a $4M+ increase in their budget.
Where do you get that number? That would be for 125k weekend passes (4mil/$32 increase). There were maybe 125k over the three days combined but only about 40k weekend passes sold from what I have heard which would be 1.28 million more CAD (plus any single day boosts etc.).
shit, yeah I multipled it by 135 instead of 45. Just over a million then
I'm still gonna go with Kanye isn't playing this. Maybe The Strokes? They'd be sharing two headers with Gov Ball, but it happened in 2014 and 2015.
Just to say, I had no idea their 2013 lineup was so stacked. What a great year for every major fest.
really? 2013 was kind of weak (not for oshega, but most US Fests) and 2012 was the best in a whiiiiile. (Lolla getting Black Sabbath, Coachella getting Dre and Snoop and Radiohead, Roo getting radiohead etc)
Post by thisishappening on Feb 18, 2016 11:35:04 GMT -5
I don't think Kanye costs a crazy sum of money to book. Kanye tweeted the other day that he somehow managed to get himself $53 million dollars into debt. It's paying a solo artist versus an entire band. But in the event Osheaga does book The Killers and Kanye, I'm not sure I have much use for my Gov. Ball ticket anymore (maybe a day pass Friday).
I'm still gonna go with Kanye isn't playing this. Maybe The Strokes? They'd be sharing two headers with Gov Ball, but it happened in 2014 and 2015.
Just to say, I had no idea their 2013 lineup was so stacked. What a great year for every major fest.
really? 2013 was kind of weak (not for oshega, but most US Fests) and 2012 was the best in a whiiiiile. (Lolla getting Black Sabbath, Coachella getting Dre and Snoop and Radiohead, Roo getting radiohead etc)
Roo got Macca and Bjork, Lolla got The Cure and Nine Inch Nails, Coachella got Blur and The Stone Roses and a killer undercard. Only set of headers I thought were better the year before were Coachella's, but I preferred 2013 undercard. Friday and Saturday had some of the toughest conflicts (Blur vs Grinderman vs Jurassic 5 vs Foals and Phoenix vs New Order vs Sigur Ros vs Booka Shades vs Richie Hawtin). I thought Roo 2012 was pretty meh.
Post by The Foot Fuckin' Master on Feb 18, 2016 11:56:50 GMT -5
Solo artist vs bands doesn't mean anything in terms of booking fees. And all festival prices seem to have increased this year, so it won't necessarily reflect in more high profile acts this year. Of course, Osheaga is still much cheaper for Americans with the exchange rate compared to comparable fests.