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I saw some people with Gucci shirts leaving that set early because of how crowded it was they said. I'd like to see pictures of the crowds at Lil Uzi Vert and Playboi Carti, especially Carti after hearing how bad Rae Sremmurd was on that small stage last year. Also, the Jack White crowd was tiny AF, walked up the left side and the crowd wasn't even really past the sound board. Odesza might have been just as crowded as Travis Scott, if not more. I don't think anything will top this Post Malone crowd though
Post by Whereispassionpit on Aug 6, 2018 15:28:53 GMT -5
I watched the stream for a little bit yesterday and noticed the Perry's stage wasn't crowded at all. I feel like in the past it's been packed regardless of who's playing.
I watched the stream for a little bit yesterday and noticed the Perry's stage wasn't crowded at all. I feel like in the past it's been packed regardless of who's playing.
Post by Doctor Doctor on Aug 6, 2018 15:58:18 GMT -5
Those huge draws like Post Malone, Gucci, etc make for an easy time to get close and personal at sets most of us would car about. And that's pretty awesome I think. The only crowd I would have been pretty jammed in would have been Bruno Mars it seems. Regrets..
Those huge draws like Post Malone, Gucci, etc make for an easy time to get close and personal at sets most of us would car about. And that's pretty awesome I think. The only crowd I would have been pretty jammed in would have been Bruno Mars it seems. Regrets..
The downside is that the other options at these times often weren't super great. During Post Malone, for example, your other options were Walk the Moon, Rusko, or Greta Van Fleet (who also had an enormous crowd). Same with Gucci Mane - it was him or Lykke Li/Manchester Orchestra, both of whom I think are okay but nothing I really wanted to see. Your mileage may vary, of course, but really the only time this was a big advantage was Bruno Mars/The National and ODESZA/Jack White. (Vampire Weekend had what looked like a fairly decent crowd considering who they were up against.)
Good read imo. Better than I'm used to from CoS, I guess. It's funny tho that they mentioned like 3x that "rock isn't dead" but every opportunity given they just throw the rock concerts under the bus.
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1. St. Vincent--pure joy 2. Jack White--sounded great but did cut act about 10 minutes short and no encore 3. The National--a huge thank you to Bruno for taking 90% of Lolla fans to the other end of the park for this one. 4. Greta Van Fleet--one trick pony but oh do they turn that clock back to the 70s Zep sound. 5. Vampire Weekend-- only saw last hour of this as I took a peek at The Weekend (field was only half full??), then one Zedd and two blackbear songs before VW. Much more interaction with crowd than VW set at Roo a few years ago. 6. Portugal.theMan--great show although I always like them better after dark. Funny (and a few serious) backdrop thoughts/quotes 7. Chvrches--pleasant surprise. Really enjoyed this set much more than previous times. Wouldn't have been so close if I hadn't been camping for Arctic Monkeys 8. Catfish & the Bottlemen--extreme heat during this one didn't prevent two mosh pits--when did people start moshing to CatBM??? 9. Tash Sultana--jams sounded good. Riled some people up evidently because I witnessed my usual Lolla fight in the street right at the end of this one. 10. Arctic Monkeys--this one disappointed a lot of peeps I was with. Pretty heavy on the new album for the first hour before giving the crowd what they wanted. I'm not sure if this lounge lizard act is brilliant in a campy way or just pure drivel. I might have left early if he would called us a "cheeky goose" one more time.
HM--Franz Ferdinand (the old guys still got it!), Mainland, Charlotte Cardin, Big Wild, lovelytheband, Sir Sly
Post by Launchpad McQuack on Aug 7, 2018 7:44:47 GMT -5
Not too surprised at the size of AMs audience given the reception of the new album; and that they were up against Travis. Probably made for a better show tho.
But the rest of those crowd sizes are pretty nauseating. Getting claustrophobic just looking at them.
It’s hard to narrow this down to 10 since I saw so many good sets all weekend, so I’m including the VW aftershow.
1. Vampire Weekend- Metro 2. Arctic Monkeys 3. Lizzo 4. Lykke Li 5. Carly Rae Jepsen 6. Vampire Weekend 7. Franz Ferdinand 8. CHVRCHES 9. The National 10. Catfish and the Bottlemen 11. Alex Lahey
Not saying that the Travis Scott crowd wasn’t bigger than the Arctic Monkeys crowd at all, but the Chvrches and AM pictures were from the main stage which has a field that is significantly bigger than the Post/Travis/Uzi stage. Even The Weeknd had a somewhat thin crowd at the back of the main stage field
As for the small crowds Coachella and Lolla this year have shown that most rock bands don’t draw big crowds anymore at multi- genre American fests and I doubt that’s going to change anytime soon.
As for the small crowds Coachella and Lolla this year have shown that most rock bands don’t draw big crowds anymore at multi- genre American fests and I doubt that’s going to change anytime soon.
Zero issue with this at all, makes it much easier to get a good spot. However, you wonder if there comes a point where these fests stop spending $$$'s on sets that no one is attending.
Post by Whereispassionpit on Aug 7, 2018 11:21:43 GMT -5
I'd be curious to see a picture of the crowd for Portugal The Man. People on here are also saying Vampire Weekend had a good crowd. Gretta Van fleet I heard was packed, and Rex Orange County looked crowded from a snap I saw.
Rock/Indie just needs new stars badly. I like The National/Arctic Monkeys/Jack White but they are 5-10 years from their best work and even at their peak they weren't as big as Post Malone is now. I bet Tame Impala could outdraw all of them at Lolla.
I'd be curious to see a picture of the crowd for Portugal The Man. People on here are also saying Vampire Weekend had a good crowd. Gretta Van fleet I heard was packed, and Rex Orange County looked crowded from a snap I saw.
Rock/Indie just needs new stars badly. I like The National/Arctic Monkeys/Jack White but they are 5-10 years from their best work and even at their peak they weren't as big as Post Malone is now. I bet Tame Impala could outdraw all of them at Lolla.
Heres a picture I got of the Rex Orange County crowd
I'd be curious to see a picture of the crowd for Portugal The Man. People on here are also saying Vampire Weekend had a good crowd. Gretta Van fleet I heard was packed, and Rex Orange County looked crowded from a snap I saw.
Rock/Indie just needs new stars badly. I like The National/Arctic Monkeys/Jack White but they are 5-10 years from their best work and even at their peak they weren't as big as Post Malone is now. I bet Tame Impala could outdraw all of them at Lolla.
I remember Tame having a good size crowd at Lolla 15. Granted I was front row so I could be wrong.
I'd be curious to see a picture of the crowd for Portugal The Man. People on here are also saying Vampire Weekend had a good crowd. Gretta Van fleet I heard was packed, and Rex Orange County looked crowded from a snap I saw.
Rock/Indie just needs new stars badly. I like The National/Arctic Monkeys/Jack White but they are 5-10 years from their best work and even at their peak they weren't as big as Post Malone is now. I bet Tame Impala could outdraw all of them at Lolla.
I remember Tame having a good size crowd at Lolla 15. Granted I was front row so I could be wrong.
They had a massive crowd at Bonnaroo 2016 and the festival was at half capacity basically.
Can't tell VW's crowd size, but their crowd sounded super into it on the stream. Five years hiatus hasn't slowed their momentum IMO.
This is mostly anecdotal but I also feel that Vampire Weekend resonates with younger audiences more than most "rock bands" on their level. Their show I went to last month looked to be mostly people in their early 20's.
Can't tell VW's crowd size, but their crowd sounded super into it on the stream. Five years hiatus hasn't slowed their momentum IMO.
This is mostly anecdotal but I also feel that Vampire Weekend resonates with younger audiences more than most "rock bands" on their level. Their show I went to last month looked to be mostly people in their early 20's.
Yep, which is interesting since a lot of contemporaries haven't had as much success appealing to younger folks as their careers have progressed.
I'm wondering.. Because my head went from a to b real quick. What if festivals do quite with booking (older) bands like Depeche Mode, The National, Arctic Monkeys..? And what kind of results would there be because of that, not only for the US festival market but for those bands aswell.. Touring wise they'd be all over Europe the whole summer and chances are that tickets to shows would probably go up because there'd be only one big tour in the US or so. Booking bands of those kinds will probably become very expensive because why come and fly over the US for one show when you can tour all around Europe?
It seems like bands won't get booked anymore because crowds and festivals will probably already have found a cheaper, younger and more promising band to replace them with, even tho they haven't peaked yet. I mean, Arctic Monkeys has finally reached headliner status in the US but it seems like they're already back on their decline, Arcade Fire has nothing but a stelar live show but sales went pretty bad (yeah yeah, and the album sucked whatever) and it seems like they're also back.. Just to give a few examples.
When bands go on a break for about 3/5 years, I feel like it's harder for them to come back then it used to be because the festival landscape is rapidly changing and asking from bands to put out new shit very fast. Atleast that's what I think (same goes to rappers or any kind of act btw).
Vampire Weekend had a very respectable crowd, especially compared to The National on the same stage. Portugal The Man definitely had a larger crowd than Jack White. I was on the right side of the stage for both GFV and ROC, and their crowds were definitely too big for that stage. The left is always more packed on that stage, so pictures may not do it justice if it doesn't show it all.
This is mostly anecdotal but I also feel that Vampire Weekend resonates with younger audiences more than most "rock bands" on their level. Their show I went to last month looked to be mostly people in their early 20's.
Yep, which is interesting since a lot of contemporaries haven't had as much success appealing to younger folks as their careers have progressed.
This is mostly anecdotal but I also feel that Vampire Weekend resonates with younger audiences more than most "rock bands" on their level. Their show I went to last month looked to be mostly people in their early 20's.
Yep, which is interesting since a lot of contemporaries haven't had as much success appealing to younger folks as their careers have progressed.
I was with my younger brother who isnt much of a vampire weekend fan and he said a lot of his friends like them because its a very "college" sound, which I hadnt thought of but I do think is true in a certain sense, especially Self Titled
Can't tell VW's crowd size, but their crowd sounded super into it on the stream. Five years hiatus hasn't slowed their momentum IMO.
This is mostly anecdotal but I also feel that Vampire Weekend resonates with younger audiences more than most "rock bands" on their level. Their show I went to last month looked to be mostly people in their early 20's.
I heard the same about the young crowd from different people who went to the California shows. Surprising but encouraging.
I'm wondering.. Because my head went from a to b real quick. What if festivals do quite with booking (older) bands like Depeche Mode, The National, Arctic Monkeys..? And what kind of results would there be because of that, not only for the US festival market but for those bands aswell.. Touring wise they'd be all over Europe the whole summer and chances are that tickets to shows would probably go up because there'd be only one big tour in the US or so. Booking bands of those kinds will probably become very expensive because why come and fly over the US for one show when you can tour all around Europe?
It seems like bands won't get booked anymore because crowds and festivals will probably already have found a cheaper, younger and more promising band to replace them with, even tho they haven't peaked yet. I mean, Arctic Monkeys has finally reached headliner status in the US but it seems like they're already back on their decline, Arcade Fire has nothing but a stelar live show but sales went pretty bad (yeah yeah, and the album sucked whatever) and it seems like they're also back.. Just to give a few examples.
When bands go on a break for about 3/5 years, I feel like it's harder for them to come back then it used to be because the festival landscape is rapidly changing and asking from bands to put out new shit very fast. Atleast that's what I think (same goes to rappers or any kind of act btw).
Thoughts?
Yeah this is something I have thought about a bit as well. I wonder if some of these acts would be willing to Sub Headline, and which possible rising Rock Acts could actually achieve headliner status at a fest like this. I think an other issue if you move some of these Rock acts down is that with the way that festivals are moving now a days, that might mean only 50 mins to an hour of a set. The National only played an hour of a set at Osheaga, thats just not long enough for a substantial rock act in my opinion.
