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Post by tewentytwo on Feb 23, 2022 13:51:06 GMT -5
Aye, bought Saturday but then I realized there's a 50/50 chance I won't be able to make it I wanted to see Low, Beak, Kru, Fontaines and NIN. all will be my first time seeing them live.
Post by TickleMeElmo on Feb 23, 2022 18:43:24 GMT -5
So why IS this festival so expensive? I don't think it has to do with the insurance since lower prices can be seen at other festivals. Did they have to overpay these artists to keep them from Coachella or This Ain't No Picnic? Is the LA State Historic Park super expensive to book? Or did they just grossly overprice this festival thinking Americans will just throw money at it regardless?
So why IS this festival so expensive? I don't think it has to do with the insurance since lower prices can be seen at other festivals. Did they have to overpay these artists to keep them from Coachella or This Ain't No Picnic? Is the LA State Historic Park super expensive to book? Or did they just grossly overprice this festival thinking Americans will just throw money at it regardless?
I would say choosing the smaller space hampered them. They might be able to have maybe 25,000 at the most for the park. ( FYF there in 2013 had around 22,000 ) A solo show with a single stage is allowed to have 15,000. I mean if this was at Exposition Park you couldve had around 40,000 tickets to try and sell at minimum. But this looks to be the trade off they made cause intimacy seems to matter. So where are the likes of Ray Ban or Heineken for sponsorship cause that wouldve made a difference. Its going to be interesting to see whenever Life Is Beautiful announces their lineup to see if Lorde and/or Arctic Monkeys crossover as headliners. That could be part of the overpayment to those acts so they wouldnt go somewhere else around that time. The other thing is how many acts will they be adding. Right now they have 59 artists that are supposed to be scheduled across 4 stages, thats pretty thin with the current breakdown. I went back and checked FYF 2013 which was 4 stages with 29 and 30 acts each day along with a 2pm start and a midnight curfew. So dropping in around 30 more artists sounds about right to have full days of music. But the thing is will that make the price tag worth it or not. Supposedly Lana Del Rey might get onto this which Im sure will get ticket sales going. They shouldve just consolidated the lineup back into 2 days and had 2 headliners a day with a price point similar to Picnic and they wouldnt be having too many issues.
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with supre about this - I think since they chose a venue with less capacity, this might have ended up with a higher price tag.
Re: how many acts they're gonna be adding, I think the original announcement said something along the lines of 75 acts, and if that's the case, we won't have more than 15-16 additions. If 75 is the number of the acts, with 25/day and 4 stages, each stage would have about 6 names a day. This might mean longer sets/less conflicts, which is not a bad thing imo.
I'm not sure where those Lana Del Rey rumors are coming from, but I remember reading on reddit someone mentioning this will have 2 headliners/day, but again, this is reddit, so take it with a grain of salt. If that was the case, I feel like they would've announced it by now.
Picnic also doesn't seem to be selling well with those prices and 2 days, so I don't think I agree on that point though.
So why IS this festival so expensive? I don't think it has to do with the insurance since lower prices can be seen at other festivals. Did they have to overpay these artists to keep them from Coachella or This Ain't No Picnic? Is the LA State Historic Park super expensive to book? Or did they just grossly overprice this festival thinking Americans will just throw money at it regardless?
i feel like ive seen people talking about every festival being insanely expensive these days. Coachella was like $600. I don't really think this one seems more expensive compared to others.
I could see them locking in the park pre Covid so they couldn’t back out of it once it was ok to do the fest. Intimacy could have always been their goal then insurance costs ruined everything.
yup, and I don't see people complaining about it as much as they do for this
I bought tickets for TANP and I’m not mad about the price but the lineup is crazy stacked for me. I did the quick math and it is “worth” about $500 in separate ticket prices for bands I want to see.
Same thing for Saturday for PLA, 5 bands I want to see for $185 is about $37? per band. Then there’s bands I have yet to research.
yup, and I don't see people complaining about it as much as they do for this
I bought tickets for TANP and I’m not mad about the price but the lineup is crazy stacked for me. I did the quick math and it is “worth” about $500 in separate ticket prices for bands I want to see.
Same thing for Saturday for PLA, 5 bands I want to see for $185 is about $37? per band. Then there’s bands I have yet to research.
Fair point. PSLA has many names that I've been wanting to see in a while, and having paid early bird price for it makes my argument weaker, but I would've still payed $500 if I didn't have tickets for it.
yup, and I don't see people complaining about it as much as they do for this
There's also 74 artists on This Ain't No Picnic compared to 59 at this. That's about $4.58 per artist at TANP and $8.44 per artist at PSLA according to current ticket prices. So despite TANP being only two days (and of course you won't be able to see everyone) you're still paying nearly twice as much for the amount of talent at PSLA. So considering the amount of artists on each lineup, TANP is the better bang for your buck though we could all assume PSLA's headliners were more expensive.
Yeah but it didnt cross the $400 or $500 barrier. Fyf 2017 was $20 less for a 3 day ticket and had just under 70 acts compared to Picnic. I think it also has a similar feel to FYF which might make people gravitate towards it more. Like Picnic feels that its gonna be a party all weekend and Prima is more serious.
So why IS this festival so expensive? I don't think it has to do with the insurance since lower prices can be seen at other festivals. Did they have to overpay these artists to keep them from Coachella or This Ain't No Picnic? Is the LA State Historic Park super expensive to book? Or did they just grossly overprice this festival thinking Americans will just throw money at it regardless?
i feel like ive seen people talking about every festival being insanely expensive these days. Coachella was like $600. I don't really think this one seems more expensive compared to others.
The thing thats turning off people with this is that look at what you get paying the same price. You couldve gotten a Coachella ticket for $500 this year and this is the same price. Wanna tell me how 59 acts vs 159 acts is the same value? Coachella is a known quantity moreso than Primavera as it is here. And not knowing everyone they had for 2020 along with the cost or a regular ticket makes it difficult to compare anyway. But a $300 jump from the early bird tickets to this is a shock to almost anyone I would say.
yup, and I don't see people complaining about it as much as they do for this
People are complaining but like others said not as much because it’s still a better value. I don’t see either festival selling out without major adds but picnic will be closer to making a profit.
Welp, My top 3 acts are on 3 different days. All 3 relatively rare for LA.
I'm not overly concerned about the price since I'm local and won't have to spend too much on other stuff but Im probably not up for 3 days of a local festival .
