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Nowhere in the states is as strict as we should be, but relatively speaking California is one the more strict states (Look at Arizona, Florida, Texas, etc.) . LA being tons more strict than our neighbors in Orange and San Diego, who have had outdoor dining, bars, gyms and tattoo parlors, among other things, this entire time that LA went back to closing dining again. California still doesn't allow any capacity for sporting events and big events like The Rose Bowl moved to Texas because of it. Whereas Texas and Florida allow somewhere around 25% capacity in stadiums if I'm not mistaken. IF any festival is happening this year, it's a lot more likely to be something outside of the West Coast.
Stay at home order was in place at the time of the last month of nfl games and the rose bowl. Prior to that, LA county was in the purple tier and they were allowed to hold sporting events. Rose Bowl wouldve happened if we were still in that status regardless of having an audience or not. The Rams, 49ers and Chargers got lucky they didnt have to figure out how to host a home playoff game with the restrictions. Anything else? Youre also thinking that cases wont drop down far enough to even allow it to happen. Again, require attendees to be vaccinated and add other covid protocols and you get your festival. You cant say they arent considering that idea, again, lots of time to formulate. But you seem to have your mind made up right this second that 9 months from now isnt feasible.
I think the NCAA would have moved the Rose Bowl either way because they want as much money as possible, and that includes having some fans in attendance. The NCAA is extremely corrupt and greedy. I really don't see it happening this year, I would be happy to be wrong about this. But I'm moreso hoping that we get regular venue shows back this year before I think about festivals happening. But like I said I'm sure we can travel to another state for a festival by Fall.
Yeah, for April. There arent too many tours in the fall so its gonna look like the apocalypse for anyone thT had spring early summer dates at the moment.
I still think she is first name 3rd line unless her agents make a demand. Paramore will get 2nd line whenever that time comes though.
I wouldn’t be surprised if paramore waits a few years and subs/headlines a reunion tour
Paramore is not headlining or subbing at Coachella. Hayley Williams, while a somewhat recognizable name to people, has under a mil monthly listeners on Spotify for her solo stuff. No way she’s second line.
It's not far fetched for Hayley to get end of second line solo. End of second, front of 3rd are basically the same caliber of artist anyways. Paramore would probably be top 3 on their day if their hiatus lasts a couple more years. Or a slot for them to close the outdoor.
I feel like if Paramore were to play, it would’ve happened by now. I just don’t see it happening at this point and I don’t think GV would bother.
To be fair, I think many (myself included) shared this sentiment about Weezer prior to 2019 and they ended up playing a really well received show. And we almost got My Chemical Romance as a headliner this past year before negotiations fell through.
Not sure if Paramore is on the same level as Weezer or MCR exactly, but I don't think its that far fetched that Paramore could play one day.
I could see a future where these emo/punk pop bands that were super popular among teenagers in the late 2000s start becoming like a kind of "throwback" bookings for festivals.
I feel like if Paramore were to play, it would’ve happened by now. I just don’t see it happening at this point and I don’t think GV would bother.
To be fair, I think many (myself included) shared this sentiment about Weezer prior to 2019 and they ended up playing a really well received show. And we almost got My Chemical Romance as a headliner this past year before negotiations fell through.
Not sure if Paramore is on the same level as Weezer or MCR exactly, but I don't think its that far fetched that Paramore could play one day.
I could see a future where these emo/punk pop bands that were super popular among teenagers in the late 2000s start becoming like a kind of "throwback" bookings for festivals.
Weezer has history with Coachella and is a classic 90’s alternative band. MCR was a huge reunion. Paramore have neither of these going for them. Booking acts emo/punk pop bands as “throwbacks” doesn’t really make much sense for a festival like Coachella who never really celebrated that scene in the first place. There’s been an act here or there but it was never enough of a staple to start booking throwbacks from that genre now.
Acts like Sunny Day Real Estate, Jimmy Eat World, Brand New etc. sorta make sense but I don't ever see them venturing into Sum 41/Yellowcard/All Time Low territory, at least not enough to make it a "thing".
To be fair, I think many (myself included) shared this sentiment about Weezer prior to 2019 and they ended up playing a really well received show. And we almost got My Chemical Romance as a headliner this past year before negotiations fell through.
Not sure if Paramore is on the same level as Weezer or MCR exactly, but I don't think its that far fetched that Paramore could play one day.
I could see a future where these emo/punk pop bands that were super popular among teenagers in the late 2000s start becoming like a kind of "throwback" bookings for festivals.
Weezer has history with Coachella and is a classic 90’s alternative band. MCR was a huge reunion. Paramore have neither of these going for them. Booking acts emo/punk pop bands as “throwbacks” doesn’t really make much sense for a festival like Coachella who never really celebrated that scene in the first place. There’s been an act here or there but it was never enough of a staple to start booking throwbacks from that genre now.
Acts like Sunny Day Real Estate, Jimmy Eat World, Brand New etc. sorta make sense but I don't ever see them venturing into Sum 41/Yellowcard/All Time Low territory, at least not enough to make it a "thing".
The fact that MCR got the boot once a better option came along kind of shows how committed they were to the whole idea.
Suffice it to say the old emo crowd isnt even Paramores core fanbase anymore. They moved past that the last couple releases. Happens to a lot of groups. Did anyone ever think Panic At The Disco was gonna turn out to be as big as they got in the last few years? What about Fall Out Boy? These acts get made fun of cause of their roots but theyve cashed in lately.
Weezer has history with Coachella and is a classic 90’s alternative band. MCR was a huge reunion. Paramore have neither of these going for them. Booking acts emo/punk pop bands as “throwbacks” doesn’t really make much sense for a festival like Coachella who never really celebrated that scene in the first place. There’s been an act here or there but it was never enough of a staple to start booking throwbacks from that genre now.
Acts like Sunny Day Real Estate, Jimmy Eat World, Brand New etc. sorta make sense but I don't ever see them venturing into Sum 41/Yellowcard/All Time Low territory, at least not enough to make it a "thing".
The fact that MCR got the boot once a better option came along kind of shows how committed they were to the whole idea.
Sure, except for the part where they ended up showing how big of a draw they wouldve been if they were on the poster by selling their tour out in no time.
Doesn't Paramore play sheds? I don't think it's impossible for them to sub. Probably will get Weezer treatment
Arena band the last 2 albums. And highly billed at Roo as mentioned. Wouldve headlined Riot Fest if it wasnt for Jawbreaker. Theyve headlined Reading Fest before a couple times. Isnt everyone crying for more actual “bands” and female representation? Thats 2 for 1 right there.
I feel like if Paramore were to play, it would’ve happened by now. I just don’t see it happening at this point and I don’t think GV would bother.
To be fair, I think many (myself included) shared this sentiment about Weezer prior to 2019 and they ended up playing a really well received show. And we almost got My Chemical Romance as a headliner this past year before negotiations fell through.
Not sure if Paramore is on the same level as Weezer or MCR exactly, but I don't think its that far fetched that Paramore could play one day.
I could see a future where these emo/punk pop bands that were super popular among teenagers in the late 2000s start becoming like a kind of "throwback" bookings for festivals.
Paramore doesnt even want to consider itself a “throwback” act. How is a band whose members who are barely in their early 30’s considered “old”. Coachella already does that anyway and they still got a few bands to book in the vein of old california punk and such.
Post by DammitDereck on Feb 5, 2021 21:04:03 GMT -5
They have made efforts to book in that direction recently though. Even if you guys think the weezer booking was a joke or even if they backed out on giving MCR the headlining slot.
I just think there’s enough of a case to be made with Coachella’s recent booking decisions to push Paramore into a possible act instead of dismissing them as an act Coachella would’ve booked already if they wanted to.
I’m not saying they’re gonna start giving slots to the SUM41s and PATDs of the world, but at least a band like Paramore isn’t completely out of the realm of possibility.
Theyre probably waiting to see better projections of the population that will be vaccinated by the time October rolls around. Gv is prob also looking at the requirements to even pull it off and whats acceptable.
Stagecoach/Coachella should have the same rules, even if they have the fests have difference in booze rules and on-site advertising. I would love to see Stagecoach fans react to mandatory vaccine use/masks.
I do see only a negative C19 test as being viable for everyone involved - like air travel in lots of places right now.
There's also the fact that if they move it to October, they have to start preparations for April 2022 as they usually start prep work as soon as the prior Coachella is over. That's an even shorter time window now to work from. I also don't think they will keep the October date for good after 2021. Just too much competition.
I don't think there is any issue filling 2 Coachella festivals lineups 6 months apart. Selling 400-500,000 passes to 4 Coachella weekends plus 2 Stagecoaches worth hundreds of millions of dollars 6 months apart is a very tall ask. Coachella x4 capped at 80k or so would be fine. I think all "name" festivals with a half decent lineup will be full come showtime given pent up demand and other "entertainment" options like international travel curtailed.
Would be required to have both vaccines to go though if it was to happen
Vaccines take 2 weeks to get antibodies up. If you needed double doses they would need to start in late August to attend Coachella W1 October 2021. It's not get a Vaccine in the morning, maybe continue wearing a mask and it's business as usual in the SAHARA tent later in the afternoon.
Goldenvoice won't want people getting infected at the fest even if the vaccine is widely available. I don't know what they will do but i'm fairly confident their policy won't be "you could've gotten the vaccine so if you get infected that's your problem."
Yeah, and I doubt their insurance would let that happen. No way are they gonna make you sign a covid waiver either.
I meant just requiring the vaccination only and not give a testing option. Requiring each attendee to get vaccinated isn’t realistic for a festival of Coachella and I can see them getting some bad reactions if they try to roll out that policy.
I could see October ask for either proof of vaccine or test onsite but say someone camping tests positive on Saturday, I don’t know what you expect them to do. The logistics could be a nightmare. If they decide to try to do something like that, I think it would make sense to let people roll their tickets over to 2022 instead if they don’t feel comfortable with that.
People alread got pissed that Live Nation was going to require a negative test to even attend a show, I think they have to know what theyre in for here. And I mentioned that option a few days ago. If they went the required vaccine route and there was backlash over it, you can move your ticket to 2022 for anyone that disagrees. You further reduce the capacity which is already diminished and its just even easier for everyone to enjoy a smaller scale Coachella. If they went with testing, as you said, its a logistics thing and why be ensnared by that when you could say our way or the highway. They have a path to holding the festival, and as hardcore as it sounds, people will be frothing at the mouth to get back to it regardless. Why not be the event that motivates a decent swath of people to get the vaccine. If they announce that, everyone else will do the same thing. It has to be a consideration and GV will have to be 1000% sure theyll be allowed to have Coachella if this is what they choose to do. What county or state is going to turn down the revenue if they get that guarantee of safety from the promoter.
Not discussed are fans outside the US. Including Canadians it could be over 15% of Coachella and a 2021 could a US only event. That factor and those that simply have cold feet over 2021 could chop 25% of the audience right off the bat for GV/AEG.
Talk of Covid waivers, not that infections can possibly be proven in court. Other festivals around North America have long been hotbeds for STI spread that some go crazy with condom giveaways. I thought nobody could sue over C19 infections in the US. Though GV would be worried about PR fallout if they are one of the first October Festival guinea pigs and it's a repeat of Sturgis 2020.
Thats why the Johnson and Johnson approval in a few weeks is going to make a big difference since its single dose.
Dont know why I overlooked it but tomorrow in the Super Bowl we’re going to have the first major event that will include a decent portion of the attendees to be vaccinated. So there is at least a blueprint as to how theyre handling everyone thats going if anyone chose to do testing and or vaccine required.
