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Whereisdragonenergy schedule - Thursday - Thaiboy Digital > Ecco2k > R.A.P. Ferreira > Rina Sawayama > Wand Friday - Lucy Dacus > Burna Boy > Tom Misch > Low > Brittany Howard > Flume > Spiritualized > Rihanna > Megan > Charli Saturday - Caroline Polachek > Tyler Childers > Toro y Moi > ELO > Amelie Lens > MCR > Soulwax > NxWorries Sunday - girl in red > Smino > Whitney > Fleet Foxes > Pharrell > Jorja Smith > Dead and Co
This Thursday feels too good to be true. Directly appeals to my taste, though RAP Ferreira and Wand feel too established to be a Thursday act.
Great day. Very nice genre spread and Rihanna is a fantastic headliner for this. Nothing mindblowing for personal taste but a lot of names I'd really like to see.
There's nothing I'm all that interested in until 6 pm, which isn't great but after that it picks up hard. Toro y Moi is a perfect roo name.
Not a big fan of Dead and Co but I'd still go see it for a bit. It feels like a bit of a step down from Friday and Saturday, but Fleet Foxes would be my most anticipated name on this whole lineup so that balances it somewhat.
Quality score: 8
Jortles/todd schedule - Thursday - Kelsey Lu > 070 Shake > Jpegmafia Friday - First Aid Kit > Laura Marling > Mitski > American Football > Dolly Parton > Fish SJ > System of a Down > Zappa SJ > Death Grips Saturday - Lil Ugly Mane > Rapsody > Brandi Carlile > Weyes Blood > Robert Plant > Joanna Newsom > Frank Ocean > Aphex Twin > The Avalanches Sunday - Melody's Echo Chamber > Spoon > Modest Mouse > Ween > Neil Young
3 names that get me excited on Thursday, pretty good
I wish there was a name that interested me between American Football and Dolly, because Ellie Goulding really doesn't do it for me, but the rest of the day looks great. SOAD and Death Grips LN especially is awesome.
Pretty weak early day up until Brandi, but Frank > Aphex > Avalanches is one of the best runs of any lineup here.
The run from Spoon onwards is excellent, fantastic way to end the fest.
Quality score: 8
Whereisdragonenergy realism: This feels like it would make it to 70k tickets. Rihanna is a massive get, and MCR bring in a ton of fans that wouldn't normally be there. Dead and Co rounds it out pretty nicely, though they did play in 2016 so I'll knock the realism down slightly for that. As I said, the Thursday lineup feel too good to be true, but that might also be because the names there directly appeal to my taste. I don't feel like any of the headliners feel especially likely to play next year, but as a trio this doesn't seem egregiously unrealistic or anything. There's a bunch of incredible undercard names, both in terms of quality and in terms of them feeling like they could be on the lineup next year. There's a fair few unrealistic quality names too, on the flip side. Saturday and Sunday's 2nd lines both feel weirdly smaller than I'd expect a roo second line to look, especially Tyler Childers not feeling like a 4 on his day at roo. Some nitpicks aside this looks a bit above average in terms of realism.
Realism score: 6
Jortles/Todd realism: There was already like 100 pages of argument about this lineup, so none of this is all that new, but this lineup did really go all out in getting some very niche acts that rarely tour, which I respect them going out and doing, but obviously hurts the realism score a lot in my book. I don't know where else to put Aphex Twin on a roo lineup but it still looks a little weird even as a LN which set. There's just a lot of small names standing out to me as very "what are they doing here", and it feels like there's a lot more of that on this lineup compared to most other lineups. With all that, I do think this sells 70k tickets. Frank/Neil/Dolly is an incredible trio in both quality and realism, and they all bring in most of the fans by themselves. This lineup is severely lacking a big pop/rap name on Franks day, just to give the fans who are only there for him something else to do.
IASFY schedule - Thursday - Oso Oso > Open Mike Eagle > Ezra Collective Friday - Alex G > The Shins > Erykah Badu > Roddy Ricch > Tame Impala > Wu-Tang Clan/SJ > Blood Orange > Jon Hopkins Saturday - Charly Bliss > Julien Baker > Sons of Kemet > N.E.R.D. > Kehlani > Beck > Ibibio Sound Machine > Lorde > Danny Brown > MMJ Sunday - Sidney Gish > Cass McCombs > Hop Along > Jeff Rosenstock > Miguel > Francis and the Lights > Steely Dan > Grace Jones > Bruce
Very well sized Thursday with acts I'm interested in
All around great day. A few bucket list acts and a bunch more acts I'm interested in. Wu Tang after Tame makes a ton of sense in my head and would be absolutely amazing
I'm not a big Beck fan but seeing Julien Baker, Sons of Kemet, Lorde, and Danny Brown more than makes up for that. Another fantastic day.
Rounds out the fest pretty nicely, Bruce is a perfect Sunday headliner. It could have used one of those bucket list names that there are on other days in the first half of the day but that's just down to personal taste. Solid day.
Quality score: 8
Bulls schedule - Thursday - Alexandra Savior > Sundara Karma > Kai Whiston Friday - Idles > Shannon and the Clams > Feist > Carly Rae Jepsen > Sampa the Great > Future Islands > Cardi B > The Comet is Coming > Lane 8 > Kevin Abstract Saturday - Gang of Youths > Jamila Woods > Iggy Pop > Leon Bridges > Joey Bada$$ > Sturgill Simpson > Rolling Stones > Kim Petras > Jamie XX Sunday - Jessie Ware > Schoolboy Q > Christine and the Queens > Jonsi > Sia > Interpol > The Cure
Pretty good Thursday, I like how it really felt like all upcoming acts and no already established acts
There's a couple gaps early day but this LN is disgustingly good. Also yes please to Carly and Future Islands next to each other on the which.
There aren't as many names that grab my attention on this day compared to Friday, but it's still solid. Rolling Stones of course are great, and Jamie XX LN which is a great move, one I was hoping to do for my fest. Not a huge fan of Lil Yachty on the which before the Stones.
The Cure is a great way to wrap up the fest, and Sia makes a lot of sense here, but there isn't that much on here that I love other than them. Never been a big Interpol fan, and Jonsi solo doesn't have the same impact as Sigur Ros for me, though still a great get.
Quality score: 7
IASFY realism: I really can't decide whether this would reach 70k tickets or not. Tame and Bruce definitely bring in a lot of tickets by themselves. This fest also contains quite a few acts that I would deem "very unlikely to play Bonnaroo" and while pretty much every lineup has someone like this, I feel like there's more on this one than most other lineups, namely Erykah Badu, Grace Jones, Steely Dan, and generally a bunch of the Other/electronic names. However this fest has great genre balance, and I think it's a lot better sized and billed than most fests. The Lorde/Beck bump makes sense to me, and that risk pays off in my book. The scheduling is also really good, feeling realistic and putting names where they should be. Overall this obviously isn't super realistic but it's definitely not as bad as some people are making it out to be imo.
Realism score: 6
Bulls realism: Stones don't feel like they would ever play roo, but in the context of this game they make a lot of sense. Cardi B has a deserved headliner bump, and while I'm not sure roo would book the Cure they also make a lot of sense in context of the game, and round out the headlining trio very nicely. The Stones can probably sell 70k tickets by themselves but there's plenty of modern pop acts that reach 70k tickets if the Stones don't do it by themselves. Thursday is also very nicely sized. I have some problems with the amount of bigger legacy names on this, but it's at least balanced somewhat by the size of the modern names, and Sturgill Simpson is a 10/10 pick. This does feel overpriced but there's not a chance in hell this doesn't sell out.
Realism score: 7
Since this is tied, my tiebreaker will be the headliners. for quality: The Cure > Tame > Bruce > The Stones > Lorde > Cardi B > Beck. Realism: Tame > Lorde > Cardi > The Cure > Bruce > The Stones > Beck. They're about equal quality wise but IASFY's realism edges out the Bulls, so my vote goes to Pepe and Nathan.
New Kendrick leaked. Album coming by the end of the year hopefully.
There's not much of a financial incentive for artists to drop until tours are 100% back on the menu, right?
For massive artists, possibly. However we know for a fact smaller artists are really struggling right now, and there's quite a lot of new releases and new albums coming up from smaller artists.
There's not much of a financial incentive for artists to drop until tours are 100% back on the menu, right?
For massive artists, possibly. However we know for a fact smaller artists are really struggling right now, and there's quite a lot of new releases and new albums coming up from smaller artists.
For massive artists, possibly. However we know for a fact smaller artists are really struggling right now, and there's quite a lot of new releases and new albums coming up from smaller artists.
sure, Im talking acts of Kendrick's size.
I think he’s gonna want to drop within Grammys window. Not sure when the cutoff is though.
Problem here is the Juggs argument, that increasing the value of the festival shouldn't be a negative strike for realism. I honestly think all the feedback on ours has been constructive other than the less than 1 for realism. That one just seemed over the top.
Sidenote: I see Metallica as a legacy act, that plays metal and ballads, I know this is all about your perception -- but if you are a lay-away type fan who stayed Sunday, it's like hearing a classic act at this point. I understand we are heavy on the rock, but closing with Metallica is going to be a lot more playing the hits. It's not classic rock in the soft closer sense, I get that
If I'm not mistaken Metallica was also part of the 'classic rock'-playlist next to Nirvana and Pearl Jam so it's fine.
When I mentioned Sylvan Esso wouldn't play again w/o new material I was talking about them playing in 2018, not their 2020 cancelled superjam. But that is good to know that they're going to have new material. Now do all the other acts on your lineup that are recent repeats.
Not going to fight over Odesza if my life owed me, but who else are you talking about on our list?
Odesza, Khalid, Jungle, Mavis Staples, Deafheaven, Old Crow Medicine Show. I think all of those are pretty unrealistic to make a return so soon.
And I know not everyone feels this way, but picking acts that just played is a big knock for realism for me. Recent repeats are really rare at festivals. I think its way more unrealistic that Bonnaroo would pay hundreds of thousands to re-book Odesza and Khalid than it is for our lineup to have some DJ's with higher BPMs than usual or whatever.
I think he is finished with it considering he already had dates scheduled for Summer 2020. Would make sense to push it back closer to when things are back to normal. In a perfect world he comes back before the election and rips on our leader.
Goddamn it I wish I wasn't 10 when this show went down.
walking into kindergarten like 'any of you dweebs catch bjork and aphex last night?'
there was a guy who used to post in here who claimed that he was listening to Boards of Canada's Campfire Headphase when it came out, when he would have been in like 4th grade.
walking into kindergarten like 'any of you dweebs catch bjork and aphex last night?'
there was a guy who used to post in here who claimed that he was listening to Boards of Canada's Campfire Headphase when it came out, when he would have been in like 4th grade.
I think was in 4th grade in 89? So I was still listening to Bon Jovi, Bobby Brown, Paula Abdul, Vanilla Ice and Milli Vanilli on cassette. But stuff like Faith No More wasn't far ahead.
Sidenote: I'm a fan of Jeremy Fragrance because he understands his biases and where he got his influences. I think it's a fair argument that we are aiming for more Theo's than just "random wook bass people". I think the ACTUAL argument is that the base of the festival or are music lovers with a wide variety the base of Bonnaroo? I loved 2016, but they failed deeply on variety and then tried to use LCD to buffer them. It didn't work, and that argument I understand - but "too big" feels like you should have wussed out on your picks and you don't like what we younger folks like meehh.
there was a guy who used to post in here who claimed that he was listening to Boards of Canada's Campfire Headphase when it came out, when he would have been in like 4th grade.
I think was in 4th grade in 89? So I was still listening to Bon Jovi, Bobby Brown, Paula Abdul, Vanilla Ice and Milli Vanilli on cassette. But stuff like Faith No More wasn't far ahead.
in fourth grade my favorite album was by the Bomfunk MCs
Sidenote: I'm a fan of Jeremy Fragrance because he understands his biases and where he got his influences. I think it's a fair argument that we are aiming for more Theo's than just "random wook bass people". I think the ACTUAL argument is that the base of the festival or are music lovers with a wide variety the base of Bonnaroo? I loved 2016, but they failed deeply on variety and then tried to use LCD to buffer them. It didn't work, and that argument I understand - but "too big" feels like you should have wussed out on your picks and you don't like what we younger folks like meehh.
Just to clarify: Are you saying that this is my argument? I'm confused
