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Bizkit has had a bit of a renaissance lately but it feels like they mistyped the market. The Papa Roach critical reappraisal will happen one day soon and there will be a reckoning, but not soon enough to save this fest.
Even so, Limp Bizkit JUST played Atlantic City last May, as well as Madison Square Garden (which severely undersold). And those were both their first tri state area shows in almost 10 years.
I will say I was at that MSG show and it was so much fun, but they just aren't the act people are gonna shell out $400 for and spend a weekend in AC for.
Yeah no it's indefensible. I feel bad for the people that had hopes for this thing to deliver- it is staggering how ill conceived this lineup is.
how did they let adjacent festival steal their thunder?
My friend who works in the booking world in NJ says most of the former Bamboozle folks are who actually made it happen are working on Adjacent and that John is roundly hated by area promoters and venue owners due to his poor reputation/behavior.
I think this is less a case of a promising fest revival getting undercut by LiveNation than it is a woefully underprepared and egocentric IP holder (ala Woodstock 50) getting in over their head.
Like I said months ago, this festival revival is a total sham and will probably never take place. The warning signs have been flashing bright as the sun since they first announced NFT ticketing and "Bamboozle Bucks".
My friend who works in the booking world in NJ says most of the former Bamboozle folks are who actually made it happen are working on Adjacent and that John is roundly hated by area promoters and venue owners due to his poor reputation/behavior.
I think this is less a case of a promising fest revival getting undercut by LiveNation than it is a woefully underprepared and egocentric IP holder (ala Woodstock 50) getting in over their head.
Like I said months ago, this festival revival is a total sham and will probably never take place. The warning signs have been flashing bright as the sun since they first announced NFT ticketing and "Bamboozle Bucks".
Post by kingvamp999wrld on Jan 27, 2023 14:45:23 GMT -5
Ice Spice and Babytron have so much hype right now but not even them can save the fest. Ski Mask as a headliner is nuts considering XXX and Juice absolutely carried this mans career. Not really a fan of trippie but hes the biggest name on the bill and has a huge draw, I still don't think he saves this since he tours so much already. I dont like Yung Gravy but he might move some tix.
Ice Spice and Babytron have so much hype right now but not even them can save the fest. Ski Mask as a headliner is nuts considering XXX and Juice absolutely carried this mans career. Not really a fan of trippie but hes the biggest name on the bill and has a huge draw, I still don't think he saves this since he tours so much already. I dont like Yung Gravy but he might move some tix.
i used to like ski but he really just lost all his steam, really uninspired booking
So I know nothing about this festival but read through this thread and clicked on the Instagram links and I literally have not laughed so hard in weeks. I spent about five minutes howling out loud with laugher to myself when they announced a hard rock puppet band and the comments were like "I spent $700 on pre-sale tickets, please tell me there will be better artists" and one poor guy upset because he convinced all his friends to get tickets to this instead of Adjacent and they are mad at him.
This is soooooo good. I stan this fucking festival now.
Post by Maᴙket Down on Feb 8, 2023 14:53:58 GMT -5
Lmao they dropped Ice Spice, Trippie Redd, and A Boogie and then didn't mention it. The trainwreck continues in their most recent post where they continue to "announce" artists that are already announced without acknowledging a single thing.
Post by manoverboard on Feb 8, 2023 15:31:37 GMT -5
Also there was a blurred out album play underneath Saves the Day that people were speculating was Yellowcard. That has now been removed too.
Just, wow. This has been really sad to watch. Especially since they've been hyping this up since 2021.
This will be cancelled in a month. And then over the next several months we're gonna hear horror stories from ticket buyers who still havent been refunded.
Worth also pointing out that virtually all, if not all, blurred names on the initial poster release are now gone. Whether those contracts never came together or they were just there to trick people into thinking more would be announced is up for debate. So funny/sad.
Post by manoverboard on Feb 27, 2023 12:21:16 GMT -5
Organizer just posted an absurd letter on social media, blaming cancel culture for all the negative reactions to the fest and that "people seem to forget this festival never had headliners." Then said that a final lineup announcement is coming this week, while also hinting that these additions are just gonna be all the artists that were pulled originally (Trippie, A Boogie, Ice Spice, Joeybadass, etc). Also claims radius clauses are why the lineup isnt fully out. I call bullshit, who the hell would book headliners who they cant announce until 8 weeks before the showday?
2005 - MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE, THE STARTING LINE, THRICE 2006 - FALL OUT BOY, TAKING BACK SUNDAY 2007 - LINKIN PARK, MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE 2008 - SNOOP DOGG, PANIC AT THE DISCO 2009 - FALL OUT BOY, NO DOUBT 2010 - PARAMORE, WEEZER 2011 - TAKING BACK SUNDAY, LIL WAYNE/MOTLEY CRUE 2012 - FOO FIGHTERS, BON JOVI, SKRILLEX
But, yeah, you definitely never relied on arena-filling acts...
Organizer just posted an absurd letter on social media, blaming cancel culture for all the negative reactions to the fest and that "people seem to forget this festival never had headliners." Then said that a final lineup announcement is coming this week, while also hinting that these additions are just gonna be all the artists that were pulled originally (Trippie, A Boogie, Ice Spice, Joeybadass, etc). Also claims radius clauses are why the lineup isnt fully out. I call bullshit, who the hell would book headliners who they cant announce until 8 weeks before the showday?
Is it wrong how much I'm enjoying this mess?
Nope, keep laughing.
Full post. It was hidden in their attempt at starting an online forum.
Bamboozle...
Sorry for the silence, but as we have been finishing this year's bill, we have had to honor a few radius clauses before we are able to roll out these next artists. Those radiuses expired this weekend.
Later this week, we will unveil more of our 2023 lineup. There will be no advance notice. We are just gonna drop it, but the media will be given a few hours notice.
This lineup is very stacked in hip hop, pop, rock, alternative, metal, emo and hardcore. It's very deep and well balanced over the three days. Each genre has their own stage and every artist will be playing FULL sets. The site has come together and we are so excited for this roll out.
Some artists in this announcement were leaked with our last announcement, so they will return to the ad mat along with some really amazing acts we were so lucky to add along the way. We purposely rolled out backwards as we believe that's the best way to curate this event moving forward. Everything we have done, has been calculated and on point. (Well, except the first ad mat). Additionally, we have used the same time table for announcements as we have in the past.
This week we will reveal our daily lineups. Single day, VIP, and weekend tickets will be available. There will NOT be a price jump. We will also be rolling out a new website and ticketing options. We are going to launch a fun rewards program for fans to get free tickets, VIP Upgrades, meet & greets, merch and some other really exciting prize packages.
It's not where you start, it's where you finish. I guess some people are too young to remember Warped Tour, Bamboozle, and early Riot Fests. These events were never built on headliners. We catered to a scene that is now long forgotten, but will be reborn. One year at a time!!!
As I have said since day one, Bamboozle Festival is the headliner. We are following our traditions, to the core. From announcements, lineup, festival site, attractions and our fan interactions - we are BAMBOOZLE.
This next announcement will introduce us to a whole new audience and generation. While we will celebrate our roots and traditions, these new fans are the ones who will move the Bamboozle Festival forward, so it's not a one-and-done.
Our success will not be measured this year. We understood coming back, 10 years later, our plan would be different. And when there is difference, there is change and some folks are just afraid of change. And in this climate, cancel culture and "boo birds" sometimes lose track of what their real focus issue is.
We are a damn festival, created for those who love music and are here to continue the mission of artist development and creative content. Bamboozle was known for developing our headliners from within, from small stages to the main stages. Bands used events like Bamboozle, Warped Tour and other festivals within the scene to get exposure, play in front of new fans and most importantly, networking....
I'd say 75% of our fans don't even know what the Bamboozle Festival is today. That will change within the next two weeks, as the buzz grows. These same "boozlebies" (newbies) will most likely run the haters right off the site and our socials. If the haters or doubters think I care, sorry you picked the wrong CEO. I stand with my artists and I love the Bamboozle Festival. Love is stronger then hate.
We didn't come back to big, overpriced talent...We came back to rebuild a scene and culture, where music fans can come to check out some of their favorite acts, but also be exposed to new music and talent.
We love all our fans, even the ones who throw hate and disappointment. We are about inclusion but understand that our lineup may not be for everyone. While we are sad some of you won't be joining us in Atlantic City, we hope you visit other amazing festivals and great events. Hopefully, our paths will cross again and we can continue to support great talent and music together.
I thank each and every one of you for the support and patience. I promise you - This is going to be a party, celebration, and resurrection of the legendary Bamboozle Festival.
Our lineup is stacked. It may not be top heavy, but it is well balanced with something for every type of music fan. Our closers are all playing sold out arena tours....
We are about to have some fun.....let the games begin!
Post by manoverboard on Feb 27, 2023 13:16:01 GMT -5
"Our closers are all playing sold out arena tours..."
Um, who? As of now, there isnt a single artist on the lineup that is touring arenas. If they eventually book A Boogie, then yes, he is playing a sold out show at Barclays Center this weekend. BUT that's because it's a hometown show. Any other city he isn't doing arenas.
