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You just put on a fucking jacket. Everybody is so damn dramatic about winter like damn cavemen and Vikings and pilgrims didn't manage to survive it
We could survive in it but why would we want to?
Listen, nobody's lobbying for you to come visit us Northerners. I'm just trying to dispell the myth that a thirty degree day will kill a tourist inside of five minutes.
I just don't know why so many people act like it's the end of the world. It's way easier to fix being cold than being hot.
Maybe for you, but not for me. I also enjoy the heat, I do not enjoy being cold. Just because it is easy for you does not make that universal and your point valid. Just like me loving the heat does not mean that everyone should get over being so hot.
It is a fact that you can add many layers but there are only so many that you can remove.
Listen, nobody's lobbying for you to come visit us Northerners. I'm just trying to dispell the myth that a thirty degree day will kill a tourist inside of five minutes.
We don’t need to visit you, you’ll be living in the south in 15 years.
Listen, nobody's lobbying for you to come visit us Northerners. I'm just trying to dispell the myth that a thirty degree day will kill a tourist inside of five minutes.
We don’t need to visit you, you’ll be living in the south in 15 years.
Sometimes being cold > living under Republican state governance
Listen, nobody's lobbying for you to come visit us Northerners. I'm just trying to dispell the myth that a thirty degree day will kill a tourist inside of five minutes.
I don't mind visiting when it's cold. My ex-wife's grandpa who is now in his 90's was well known to go shirtless around his property once it got near 40. Y'all some lumberjack hearty ass motherfuckers in WNY. But everyone I know who moved to the south from the north and has mentioned it, can no longer take the cold. They all say their blood thins down here and just can't handle it anymore.
Maybe for you, but not for me. I also enjoy the heat, I do not enjoy being cold. Just because it is easy for you does not make that universal and your point valid. Just like me loving the heat does not mean that everyone should get over being so hot.
It is a fact that you can add many layers but there are only so many that you can remove.
That's what I always say, but I usually finish it with ".. so many you can remove before you're arrested."
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
But you’re arguing something that misses the entirety of the argument. Chicago also has Buddy Guy and plenty of African American artists that stretched out their craft in a host of genres from blues to gospel to jazz, funk and rock. It’s got big names in rock throughout that era’s decades - from Styx mid 70’s before they went pop, Naked Raygun in the hardcore era of the early 80’s, Smashing Pumpkins, Chance, Eddie Vedder, Herbie Hancock I’ll finally get to see at Bonnaroo, Nils Lofgren - shit I saw Ministry last week though I think they live in Texas now. The point was we, a medium sized city at best, gave the world an art form that evolved from traditional and Dixieland into Bill Bruford, Frank Zappa, Dave Brubeck, Jeff Beck, Jeff Lorber, Jan Hammer, Miles Davis, George Duke, Stanley Clarke, Coltrane, Buddy Rich, Billie Holiday, Stan Getz. I’m stopping there. The best of the best musicians who play/played it represent the art form. And that’s the contribution. At a higher level, it’s America’s #1 gift to the musical arts which makes it untouchable.
Admittedly this is Inforoo where discussion often focuses more on accessibility, so-called banger songs. But that’s all temporary. Jazz is.
I missed this one last night because I only saw the one you replied to directly.
If you want to have New Orleans staking the claim for the murky origins of jazz transplanted from west Africa and having that be ground zero for all subsequent innovation, you are free to think so.
To me there's a much more direct link with what Muddy Waters and Willie Dixon did in Chicago, along with Chess Records and what they did with popularization on everything that is now considered rock.
But you’re arguing something that misses the entirety of the argument. Chicago also has Buddy Guy and plenty of African American artists that stretched out their craft in a host of genres from blues to gospel to jazz, funk and rock. It’s got big names in rock throughout that era’s decades - from Styx mid 70’s before they went pop, Naked Raygun in the hardcore era of the early 80’s, Smashing Pumpkins, Chance, Eddie Vedder, Herbie Hancock I’ll finally get to see at Bonnaroo, Nils Lofgren - shit I saw Ministry last week though I think they live in Texas now. The point was we, a medium sized city at best, gave the world an art form that evolved from traditional and Dixieland into Bill Bruford, Frank Zappa, Dave Brubeck, Jeff Beck, Jeff Lorber, Jan Hammer, Miles Davis, George Duke, Stanley Clarke, Coltrane, Buddy Rich, Billie Holiday, Stan Getz. I’m stopping there. The best of the best musicians who play/played it represent the art form. And that’s the contribution. At a higher level, it’s America’s #1 gift to the musical arts which makes it untouchable.
Admittedly this is Inforoo where discussion often focuses more on accessibility, so-called banger songs. But that’s all temporary. Jazz is.
I missed this one last night because I only saw the one you replied to directly.
If you want to have New Orleans staking the claim for the murky origins of jazz transplanted from west Africa and having that be ground zero for all subsequent innovation, you are free to think so.
To me there's a much more direct link with what Muddy Waters and Willie Dixon did in Chicago, along with Chess Records and what they did with popularization on everything that is now considered rock.
Depends on your perspective and attribution.
I'm not arguing with that. Of course. You would also have to credit the Mississippi Delta too (which certainly is not New Orleans) for also direct links to blues-based rock in the late 1960's and early 1970's. Page, Blackmore, Iomi, etc. all those guys have a direct link to Johnson and/or Delta Blues as well. It would be the second time someone requested it today, but 3post1jack1 has the timelines and historical data of musical history from West Africa to the Caribbean to New Orleans. That mashed up with classical European morphed its way into what jazz the artform is. Jazz isn't just what pablo said - some street brass or whatever. It's way more than that and can be ultra complicated in both theory and composition. You know this too. So what I would equate it with was if say a visual artform came out of a city and took off amongst some of the best of the best artists, for instance sculpture, then that city would get credit for what they gifted the world. Obviously music is cerebral in that it already exists in its own infinity (I suppose visual art does too).
I missed this one last night because I only saw the one you replied to directly.
If you want to have New Orleans staking the claim for the murky origins of jazz transplanted from west Africa and having that be ground zero for all subsequent innovation, you are free to think so.
To me there's a much more direct link with what Muddy Waters and Willie Dixon did in Chicago, along with Chess Records and what they did with popularization on everything that is now considered rock.
Depends on your perspective and attribution.
I'm not arguing with that. Of course. You would also have to credit the Mississippi Delta too (which certainly is not New Orleans) for also direct links to blues-based rock in the late 1960's and early 1970's. Page, Blackmore, Iomi, etc. all those guys have a direct link to Johnson and/or Delta Blues as well. It would be the second time someone requested it today, but 3post1jack1 has the timelines and historical data of musical history from West Africa to the Caribbean to New Orleans. That mashed up with classical European morphed its way into what jazz the artform is. Jazz isn't just what pablo said - some street brass or whatever. It's way more than that and can be ultra complicated in both theory and composition. You know this too. So what I would equate it with was if say a visual artform came out of a city and took off amongst some of the best of the best artists, for instance sculpture, then that city would get credit for what they gifted the world. Obviously music is cerebral in that it already exists in its own infinity (I suppose visual art does too).
I am certainly not diminishing jazz as an artform nor New Orleans' role in the proliferation of jazz. What I take/took an issue with is using that as fodder to say that it "dwarfs" the contributions of other cities or specifically Chicago.
People can say that Chicago is cold and square pizza is bad (both true), but I'm not going to let Muddy Waters, Willie Dixon and Howlin Wolf catch strays
They didn't. Because there was plenty of support for Chicago from me in most of the other threads when it came up. I love Chicago and it's one of my favorite cities. I don't even know why square pizza came up. That's much more a Detroit thing but maybe it's caught on up there since I haven't been in about 10 years. Deep dish is the shit, and I've been to Pizzeria Uno, Art of Pizza, Giordano's, Geno's East, Lou Malnati's and a few others.
Here's the one thing I'd disagree with. Blues originated in the South, not in Chicago. The correlation would be to credit backwoods Mississippi if we are equating Blues as the same level of artform as Jazz. Sure, Chicago has great blues players, all you named, Bo Didley, even Paul Butterfield from the old Butterfield Blues Band. So I don't really see how you can equate the fact that some greats emerged from the Chicago blues scene with the origins of a specific type of music. It's not remotely the same thing. We could argue all day whether or not blues or jazz is a higher artform though it should be pretty clear that one is more limited where the other is limitless. New Orleans had its blues greats too - Snooks Eglin, Johnny Adams, Buddy Guy (Chicago but originally was from down here I think), certainly Professor Longhair who mixed blues and jazz. I feel like you isolated a sentence and turned it into something completely else.
Listen, nobody's lobbying for you to come visit us Northerners. I'm just trying to dispell the myth that a thirty degree day will kill a tourist inside of five minutes.
We don’t need to visit you, you’ll be living in the south in 15 years.
I've lived in North Carolina. It was fine. I lived in Virginia. I don't anymore. I can't imagine the turn of events that would lead to my voluntarily living in SC, GA or FL, though.
We don’t need to visit you, you’ll be living in the south in 15 years.
I've lived in North Carolina. It was fine. I lived in Virginia. I don't anymore. I can't imagine the turn of events that would lead to my voluntarily living in SC, GA or FL, though.
Maybe for you, but not for me. I also enjoy the heat, I do not enjoy being cold. Just because it is easy for you does not make that universal and your point valid. Just like me loving the heat does not mean that everyone should get over being so hot.
It is a fact that you can add many layers but there are only so many that you can remove.
Again, just because that is the case for you does not make it true for everyone. I can NOT warm up when I get cold. I get cold to the bone. I have become more tolerant due to better (northern bought) clothing, but it isn't the norm for me. I am cold in the cold and that is just how it is. And again. I do NOT like the cold. At all. 60 to me is cold. I want it hot. 80s hot. The 70s I will still wear a hoodie. You can tell me a million times about how you can get warm from the cold, but that will never be what happens for me.
I can cool myself off when I get to warm, but I don't usually get so hot in the heat that I am miserable and if I do get that hot I go inside (where I usually get cold due to the AC setting and have to wear a sweater).
but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal. 
