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While certainly talented, they are pretty much the worst set of musicians of the Big 3 [tm] of grunge. Grunge was instrumental in destroying hair metal. Problem is, there is a pretty small sample size of grunge bands due to ‘alternative’ becoming parallel and inclusive of grunge.
I really dislike your definition of musicianship.
My definition is irrelevant. On guitar, Cobain can’t touch Thayil, Cantrell or even McCready. He’s a garage version
He also doesn’t have the vocal range of Cornell or Staley. Novosellic was on par with Star and Ament. Grohl is a great drummer. So is Matt Cameron who drums for 2 of the 3 other main bands. Sean Kinney is also in the conversation.
But songwriting and musicianship are two different things, aren’t they?
If you define musicianship by how fast you play scales like Esteban does, yeah.
Speed isn’t everything when there is no emotion behind it so isn’t a universal qualifier. I do like music to be on the complicated side though. Glaring exception is hardcore.
Speed isn’t everything when there is no emotion behind it so isn’t a universal qualifier.
Kurt's voice was the most important and emotive instrument in grunge and his guitar playing second, imo.
Also Novoselic rules. Super underrated, which is understandable given the other two guys.
I understand from a looking back perspective on Cobain and the lingering influence Nirvana has on culture. His voice is fine for them and me. But he couldn’t have done much of what Cornell and Staley did or he probably would have. Staley can sing and harmonize in so many different keys. Cornell has the greatest vocal abilities and was one of those rare singers who could also scream in tune when he wanted to. I can think of Ian Gillian and Rob Halford as better, but they aren’t grunge.
Nirvana on SNL and Nevermind are what killed hair metal, not Chris Cornell's vocal range.
Lol. Come on man, that’s just part of it. Hair bands literally called out Soundgarden for replacing them in rock consciousness in the VH1 production of top 100 hard bands. I didn’t make the argument you presented, but there was a lot that went into the changeover. Chili Peppers were a big part of it too. And thrash. We didn’t even really call it grunge that much early on. It was hard rock or subpop or whatever.
I just think it’s a fun thought exercise to think how far a certain genre of music goes back. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Never really considered that the Knife might be linked to hyperpop but the vocal processing definitely goes along with that.
Same for Daft Punk and a ton of Diplo-produced stuff tbh.
One last thing about this: I personally wouldn’t consider Silent Shout era Knife hyperpop (Deep Cuts…….maybe??), but around 2012 or so artists like Purity Ring, CHVRCHES, and Visions-era Grimes were all briefly being labeled as “future pop” and they all got compared a lot to The Knife (especially CHVRCHES since their first song was called “The Mother We Share”). Obviously the label didn’t stick but you can see a lot clearer influence with those bands in a different way than today’s hyperpop. Just depends on how you look at it!
Nirvana on SNL and Nevermind are what killed hair metal, not Chris Cornell's vocal range.
Lol. Come on man, that’s just part of it. Hair bands literally called out Soundgarden for replacing them in rock consciousness in the VH1 production of top 100 hard bands. I didn’t make the argument you presented, but there was a lot that went into the changeover. Chili Peppers were a big part of it too. And thrash. We didn’t even really call it grunge that much early on. It was hard rock or subpop or whatever.
It's by far the biggest part of it. Nevermind has sold 7 times as many copies as Superunknown. It's widely considered to have spurred the rise of alternative rock. None of this is controversial. I never said Soundgarden weren't also around.
The "looking back perspective" thing you said is condescending and anti-historic. All of this was true at the time.
Lol. Come on man, that’s just part of it. Hair bands literally called out Soundgarden for replacing them in rock consciousness in the VH1 production of top 100 hard bands. I didn’t make the argument you presented, but there was a lot that went into the changeover. Chili Peppers were a big part of it too. And thrash. We didn’t even really call it grunge that much early on. It was hard rock or subpop or whatever.
It's by far the biggest part of it. Nevermind has sold 7 times as many copies as Superunknown. It's widely considered to have spurred the rise of alternative rock. None of this is controversial. I never said Soundgarden weren't also around.
The "looking back perspective" thing you said is condescending and anti-historic. All of this was true at the time.
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