Best and Worst of '05

i made no assesment of a band... i said that calling a band like the mars volta gimmickish while touting modest mouse as great is a little ridiculous.....if thats not as factual as calling someone you have never met an assshole then i dont know what factual means

The night set of the Mars Volta was truley beyond most musical expierences, I had never even heard of the band until that night and was blown away,
Worst part was watching old Earl Skruggs, yeah he is a legend but he was having some sound problems at his set

Best:
20,000 happy people bouncing to J5 in unison.
The masquerade jam with Umphrey's/Particle.
The sonic forest at 3am.

Worst:
Didn't stick around long enough if anything wasn't up to speed. Too much other stuff to enjoy.

Show a link...I have no idea what you're talking about.

i worked in a factory in toledo... due to the fac that it was a metal building the only radio station we could get was 92.5 (deathreau is fromt toledo so he knows what i am talking about) i have heard the ocean breathes salty 20000 times...in the same 4 song line up of eminem mockingbird, that over and overagian crap, avril levin, and kelly clarkson...if you think that stuff like that is great and that mars volta set last year was gimmicky then i do take issue with it and i do wonder if roo is the right place for you....as a matter of fact i was at the entire modest mouse set last year with a friend.... it is not all that horrible, not my style and it sounds alot like everyhting elses they are playing on the radio...i did not call it gimmicky but i will call it a clone of all the other radio junk that is out there....if i am hating then fine im hating...i hate everyone else in that play list too.,.. fi you like them fine... dont mean i hate you ... but i do hate bad radio music that sounds like everything esle to come out in the past decade on the radio or mtv or anyother mainstream outlet.... how could you possibly bust my balls for not even saying that modest mouse is gimmicky but someone flat out says voltas set last year was gimmicky and noone says a thing.. and when i do i get shiit for it

and habitual misunderstander fit more in line with habitual line stepper so there was an incentive to not use real words...once again it seems as if some people are habitually misunderstanding me

best
dj krush
mars volta
de la soul
the word
duo
herbie

worst
trey
dmb
widespread

Oooh... Moon & Antarctica... AWESOME.

And seriously, on my parents "easy listening" stations they play Allman and Dead - do you want anyone to judge those bands by the fact that they are being played next to Whitney Houston and John Tesh? Or by their merit?

I want to make a point that I don't know how many people are considering. It is unfair to categorize bands you don't like in the "worst" or "most disappointing" category.
I don't mean to call people out specifically, but I think the reason some peopl didn't enjoy Dave's set was purely because of the fact that they didn't like Dave (either because of his style of music, or because of his apparent fanbase and popularity, the latter reason being why most people hate him). I think anyone who had even liked Dave even the slightest amount would agree his set was very good; as I stated in a prior post, I wasn't really all that convinced DMB needed to be at bonnaroo until I saw them play.
Along those same lines, and for that reasoning, I didn't list WSP or Mars Volta amongst my "worst" list because I wasn't fans of them coming into bonnaroo. I listened to some WSP stuff, it seemed descent, but I didn't deem them worthy of two nites of headlining. There have been some admitted WSP fans who were disappointed with their show (I don't think there are legit Dave fans who didn't like the DMB set).
Furthermore, I can see the entertainment in TMV; but I just don't feel it. A lot of people hail them as being really progressive and I've heard kids say their the best band out there (not necessarily on inforoo); and that simply isn't true. They're different and that's cool, but I gave their CD a few trys, didn't really dig it. I stopped by their set and didn't really dig it either. But I would by no means but them in the worst category, because clearly they gave their fans what they wanted, the earmark of a good show. Please note: I have no qualms with TMV, like I said, I'm not a fan, but I can understand it; if that's your scene I'll bet it was a good show, and if that isn't your scene, it probably wasn't a very good show and you left.

I guess my point is, don't call the show bad if you're not a fan of the artist, that isn't fair.

And as far as Modest Mouse goes. Yes, they've released some good STUDIO music, and that's nice. But I have to wonder how much of that is the Producer and equipment and not the band. I like some of their stuff, particularly the pre-Float On stuff. But I remember when Good News came out, my friend played Float On for me and I certainly enjoyed it. A few months later I heard the song on the radio, "uh-oh, here we go . . ." I said to myself. Six months after that I'm standing in a Hollister listening to Modest Mouse (and they played more than just Float On), listening to one of the employees talk about how "Modest Mouse was a great new band, and how they were going to change music." Stupid bastard didn't know they wern't a "new" band, nor were they changing any music scene. I coulda gone either way on those guys before bonnaroo, but their live set made me give them a big thumbs down.

Eh, I'm just trying to point out the fact that there is a large amount of bias in a numbe of people's criticisms. I wouldn't give my opinion of a live Yanni or Justin Timberlake show because I'm in no position to criticize the performance of someone's music I don't like.
I can say Justin Timberlake sucks and his music is awful; but as far as his live show goes, I can't really say.

PS I'm aware of the subject of the thread, I started it.

There's no doubt that Modest Mouse is hit or miss live. The first time I saw them I was very unimpressed. The next time they knocked me on my ass. Another potential problem is that they leaned heavily on their latest cd (as any band does that just released a cd), and that is IMO their worst one. Some of their new stuff is great, but when they get going on the older ones you can feel the intensity rise....Cowboy Dan and Tiny Cities Made of Ashes are must hears live.

If I were you, I'd tell him to lose the nuts.

Ha! He should let all you childrens vote - then your opinion could be represented and you wouldn't have to feel bad.

Good point!

And that statement right there proves not only that you don't comprehend my point; but also you suffer from the terrible western affliction of selfishness. That's straight inconsiderate.